Intel Leaked Roadmap for Sandy Bridge E-series

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[citation][nom]greliu[/nom]^^ I'm with you zulfadhli, I'm so confused with everything! I don't know what intel is supporting and even what AMD plans to support! There's so much going on right now! But, it's all good, maybe there will be price drops[/citation]

Intel has me throwing my hands up in the air. Between this doesn't work and this is going to work and this won't work with this I'm saying screw it.

I've got a box right now where everything is purchased and sitting in it except for the motherboard, CPU, RAM. I have been playing the waiting game to see where the market is going. I am not looking for bleeding edge technology to finish it....but I am looking for the savings and longevity in usability. I want a few years to go by without having to change everything again.

AMD is looking like the route I will take but I want them to pull their head out of their butts and get this Bulldozer mess going. The sooner that can get to market the sooner the AM3 stuff will price drop.
 
Screw Sandy Bridge. It's only good at price points > $200, where their first overclockable SKU is.

So go AMD, and bulldoze that reasoning, if you please.
 
Too many people have no idea what they are talking about, yet continue to comment like they do. Socket 1366 has been around since the end of 2008. The 990X was recently released. This is 2011.
 
[citation][nom]robochump[/nom]Well Intel is a business so they are milking consumers for all their worth by introducing incremental upgrades rather than a big jump. Intel's last big jump was from Pentium to Core 2 but that rarely happens and was necessary to regain top spot from AMD. So lets hope AMD can also innovate to keep the pressure on![/citation]

How does that milk anyone? When it's time to build a new system, we can choose the best available platform.

I used up my milk on an X58 build with the i7-950 near the end of last year. That doesn't mean I want Intel to stop innovating, just so I can feel better about my system. If it weren't for the SB SATA controller fiasco, I would have wished I waited several months to do a 2600K build, but I wouldn't be mad at Intel for daring to release a faster system.

Intel is sharing their plans with us, so we can always decide when to build or wait. I want them to continue to increase performance as fast as possible. When/if the performance increases significantly and I really need it, I will build another PC.
 
Come on , folks! socket changes do not matter 90% plus of the time. I would say higher percentages than that, but to be conservative.. by the time any system gets out of date there is more than just the CPU to upgrade anyway. plus if you keep your old cpu and mainboard together, you can just build a box from it and sell it. if you just change cpu then you have an extra cpu to discard or you would have to buy parts to make it usable. really- I have never found upgrading the cpu to be more effective than just upgrade or replace the whole system. then sell the old one as a basic machine for someone else who did not need so much.
 
[citation][nom]DXRick[/nom]Intel is sharing their plans with us, so we can always decide when to build or wait. I want them to continue to increase performance as fast as possible. When/if the performance increases significantly and I really need it, I will build another PC.[/citation]

In case you missed it, these slides were leaked. Sure, they already told us LGA-2011 in H2'11 and Ivy Bridge next year, but this is the best time scale we've had so far.

And for "bill gates is your daddy" with a box of components and waiting on CPU/Mobo/RAM to go with them, I'd suggest having a box of cash waiting for the CPU/Mobo/RAM to hit the price-point/release-date you're looking for, THEN dropping the wad on the whole kit, since an SSD sitting in a box for 3 months is likely to have dropped a few dollars by now, and if it's a GFX card, you've likely missed an entire product line already.

Of course, there's the "progressive upgrade" option: move your crappy computer into a new case (if needed), get a new PSU, hard drive upgrade next?(SSD!), Vid card perhaps?, then CPU/Mobo/RAM, then your second vid card to match the first, more ram to flesh out the slots, then start over. You can sprinkle in mouse/keyboard/monitor/etc upgrades throughout as desired. Then you're computer as a platform eventually gets outdated eventually, but you'll be rocking some decent components throughout its lifecycle so a platform change can be pushed a year or two out rather than doing a "big bang" upgrade. Granted, I'm still on a Q6600-LGA775 platform, but with an SSD (next) and perhaps another video card to fill one of my spare PCIx slots, I could likely wait until Ivy Bridge has settled down before a platform upgrade. Of course, I could just be being cheap...but my wife has an upgrade cycle too (my spare parts 😉
 
I am one of those user's that updates the mobo,cpu, and ram every few years. I am currently running on 775, while I updated a year before my friends they waited and went on to buy 1366. Boy was I floored by the performance of the 1366. I will be waiting for LGA-2011.
 
[citation][nom]ammaross[/nom] Granted, I'm still on a Q6600-LGA775 platform, but with an SSD (next) and perhaps another video card to fill one of my spare PCIx slots, I could likely wait until Ivy Bridge has settled down before a platform upgrade. Of course, I could just be being cheap...but my wife has an upgrade cycle too (my spare parts[/citation]

Me and You are in the same boat. Including the spare parts 🙂
 
[citation][nom]pelov[/nom]the llano apu's are based on phenom architecture, shrunk down to 32nm. Maybe better performance-per-watt, but the llano's are more about an all-in-one chip that doubles/triples the on-die graphics of sandy bridge counterparts. Basically a low or mid chip that provides graphics and good performance while not consuming a lot of power for cheap. Low end desktops and notebooks is what the llano will be targeting, i think. Definitely not going up against the mid or upper SB's. and forget about the E-series/ivy bridge.[/citation]

AMD isn't targeting the high end market with its APUs, that is what Bulldozer is shooting for.
 
I have to say, I'm on a 2600K/Sabertooth P67 right now, and boy is it nice. I say this because every processor I've ever owned had me itching for something faster, but not this one. It's disgustingly fast. I have hundreds of mhz of headroom to overclock, but I'm not inclined to do so. It's really that good. I even ran it at stock speeds for a couple weeks just to see what it would do; bumping it to 4.7 was just to inflate my 3dMark scores LOL I backed off to 4.3 and it is cool as a cucumber and just flat out ruins anything I throw at it. Stop holding out to upgrade, the 2600K will make you a happy camper :)
 
[citation][nom]robochump[/nom]Well Intel is a business so they are milking consumers for all their worth by introducing incremental upgrades rather than a big jump. Intel's last big jump was from Pentium to Core 2 but that rarely happens and was necessary to regain top spot from AMD. So lets hope AMD can also innovate to keep the pressure on![/citation]

This is actually good for rolling out new technology. If you revamp everything before you release a new chip, it can be a very long wait between releases and the chance of massive problems will be higher. Intel is making good improvements to every chip so there isn't much to complain. If they do a die shrink at the same time as redesigning many basic functions it could get really messy.
 
i thought that this platform roadmap marked as NDA?

why most of you yell about platform/socket changes/chipset changes blablabla? if you want, buy it, if don't stick with your current system. is that hard for you guys? stop yelling like kiddies!
 
what's with all the whiners? new tech comes out so what? do your research and buy good stuff the first go round that way you won't be kicking yourself in 2 years... AMD fanbois all need to get a job so they can enjoy nextgen tech now with SB... as a former AMD fanny i grew out of it once i made $ome $crilla...
 
[citation][nom]fyasko[/nom]what's with all the whiners? new tech comes out so what? do your research and buy good stuff the first go round that way you won't be kicking yourself in 2 years... AMD fanbois all need to get a job so they can enjoy nextgen tech now with SB... as a former AMD fanny i grew out of it once i made $ome $crilla...[/citation]
A bit judgemental. Just because people would rather not pay a lot of money for good performance, doesn't mean they're jobless. The money saved could go to something else, like a better graphics card.

Intel's power setups are getting cheaper though, making it all the more important for AMD to bring Llano and Bulldozer to market ASAP.
 
These people crack me up, with all the complaints about new Intel sockets. Isn't it obvious why AMD can stay with one socket for a long time? They don't offer anything new. every time they come out with a new processor, there is nothing really new about it. That's why a similarly clocked Intel version always smokes it performance wise. That's why Intel is able to sell them for more money. If Intel had stayed with socket 775, they and AMD would be running neck and neck right now. Every time Intel comes out with a new processor socket, the performance goes up substantially. On the other hand AMD changes things like cache and clock speed. Look at how highly clocked Phenom quad cores are now.They can't seem to produce anything new so they just overclock the same old tech. So of course it will run on the same old sockets. Just compare an old Core 2 Quad like a Q9550 with a new phenom with both CPU's running at the same clock speed. There is not a huge difference in most benchmarks. Intel has to gimp their newer processors, 1156 and up just to make them run with the Phenoms and Athlons.
 
[citation][nom]jsc[/nom]My OC'd Q9550 is still good enough that I was able to skip the i5/i7 generation. I will look around Spring 2012 to see if I want to upgrade.[/citation]

Still using an OC'd Q6600 and I'll probably be skipping the 2012 CPUs as well.
 
[citation][nom]burodsx[/nom]Still using an OC'd Q6600 and I'll probably be skipping the 2012 CPUs as well.[/citation]
Me too, probably, unless something teases me and my current setup can't handle it satisfactorily. Been playing games of 2006 to 2009 lately though, so it does not look like it.
 
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