Question Intel or AMD

[sharkdog3]

thinking about building a new system(fairly novice built a system once before) and just curious if anyone has an opinion on the age old question of intel or amd. I know amd's ryzen is all the talk right now but do i really need it? I don't do a lot of gamming and really only old games from the xp era though i do plan on playing some modern games in the future potentially(such as the new total war).

anyway if i go intel i'm thinking i7 or maybe a top of the line i5(any thoughts on if i5 is enough or should i go with i7)
anyway these were the cpus i was looking at

Intel Core i7-9700K Coffee Lake 8-Core 3.6 GHz (4.9 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 (300 Series) 95W BX80684I79700K Desktop Processor Intel UHD Graphics 630

AMD RYZEN 5 3600X 6-Core 3.8 GHz (4.4 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 95W 100-100000022BOX Desktop Processor

any thoughts would be nice. thanks

 

[rodrigoxm49]

There were Phenom II X6 CPUs available under $200 on mainstream socket/chipset in 2010.

OMG, I'm exhausted.

https://www.techradar.com/news/amds-eight-core-bulldozer-cpu-deception-has-cost-it-dollar121-million

Bulldozer 8/8 cores are slower than Intel 2/4 cores in many tasks. How in the hell any dev would programming for a pathetic CPU like this. I'm talking about CPU that obviously have relevant performance.

 

[InvalidError]

But what of those who WANT voice-activated Cortana and every other crazy thing MS can think of to add in to?

More power to them, I suppose?

Personally, I don't like the idea of all information anywhere on my system being conveniently pre-indexed in one central location for any random person to instantaneously search through. One of my friends learned that lesson when I accidentally found his "very secret porn" by unintentionally typing in a search box.

 

[mdd1963]

The 3600/3700 are both great values...good at everything, and not expensive....

If you said you wanted a 2080 or 2080Ti to play BF1 and BF5 at 1080P on 144 Hz monitor, I'd go 9700K or 9900K, or even KS now that it is available at only $$20 more or so...(Realize the 9700K will cost an additional $60-$90 on a decent cooling setup above it's current price premium as well..)

 

[Finstar]

Xbox One and PS4 had a Bulldozer CPU (AMD FX) with 8 cores. But, as everyone knows, these 8 cores works like 4 cores. Not only that, trash IPC too.

That's where you'd be wrong. The Xbox one and PS4 were not in fact based on Bulldozer. But rather the Jaguar architecture (the AM1/Kabini low power processors) which was fundamentally very different to Bulldozer. The key difference being that every core had it's own fpu, which made the cpus in PS4 and Xbox One true 8 cores.

 

[jon96789]

If you do go with AMD, look at online reviews about their VRM performance on the motherboards. MSi's MPG line of boards are crap. They have junk VRMs and they heat up to 95-100+ degrees which is unacceptable. Better boards have temps of 60-80 degrees.

 

[DSzymborski]

OMG, I'm exhausted.

https://www.techradar.com/news/amds-eight-core-bulldozer-cpu-deception-has-cost-it-dollar121-million

Bulldozer 8/8 cores are slower than Intel 2/4 cores in many tasks. How in the hell any dev would programming for a pathetic CPU like this. I'm talking about CPU that obviously have relevant performance.

Let's review here.

"Hexa-cores weren't a thing until 2018!"
"Hexa-cores existed before 2018."
"Those don't count, those were high-end hexa-cores!"
"OK, what about these other hexa-cores from 2010?"
"Those don't count either, those were low-end hexa-cores!"

We can make this conversation a lot more efficient if you tell us where you intend to move the goalposts ahead of time. If you left them in one place, you might be feeling a wee bit less exhausted.

 

[sharkdog3]

Thanks all for the input, funny how my thread goes from a couple one line responses to blowing up to a full blown cpu discussion. anyway think i'm gonna go with the

intel i7-9700k and probolly a msi mpgz390i gamming edge ac mobo G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 32GB(2x16) 288-pin RGB DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200(PC425600) Model F4-3200C16D-32GTRS Ram, SAPPHIRE NITRO+ Radeon™ RX 590 Special Edition vid card, Noctua NH-L9i 92mm SSO2 CPU Cooler and throw it all in a BitFenix Prodigy case with BitFenix Whisper M 80 Plus Gold Modular 850W PSU BWG8750m Any Input on my prospective build would be nice and again Thanks for all the input!

 

[Finstar]

@rodrigoxm49
So since you downvoted my comment i'd expect you to explain why what i said is wrong?