INTEL RELEASES MOTHER-OF-ALL-FUD DOC

[ak47is1337]

According to this benchmark (and it's funny to see these kind of benchmarks in a biased site like Tom'sHardware), pentium-M is not that spectacular like how many state:

TomsHardware

That's because the P'M is severely limited by crappy bus speeds, being developed for ultra-low voltage. Give it DDR2 and it performs a lot better. Also, the boards for desktop P'M's aren't spectactular either..

 

[MadModMike]

According to this benchmark (and it's funny to see these kind of benchmarks in a biased site like Tom'sHardware), pentium-M is not that spectacular like how many state:

TomsHardware

That's because the P'M is severely limited by crappy bus speeds, being developed for ultra-low voltage. Give it DDR2 and it performs a lot better. Also, the boards for desktop P'M's aren't spectactular either..

But according to Apache_Lives and all his Intel Wisdom, Socket AM2 Beta Boards are of quality enough for legit testings, how come the Pentium M boards get stated otherwise? Hmm? It's interesting to see how much Intel Fanboys deny the truth, when AMD fanboys show proof their product sucks they retaliate with insults, name calling, and everything else 7th graders do. I'm waiting to see how you and your boyfriend Apache respond, should be quite amusing to say the least.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[ak47is1337]

According to this benchmark (and it's funny to see these kind of benchmarks in a biased site like Tom'sHardware), pentium-M is not that spectacular like how many state:

TomsHardware

That's because the P'M is severely limited by crappy bus speeds, being developed for ultra-low voltage. Give it DDR2 and it performs a lot better. Also, the boards for desktop P'M's aren't spectactular either..

But according to Apache_Lives and all his Intel Wisdom, Socket AM2 Beta Boards are of quality enough for legit testings, how come the Pentium M boards get stated otherwise? Hmm? It's interesting to see how much Intel Fanboys deny the truth, when AMD fanboys show proof their product sucks they retaliate with insults, name calling, and everything else 7th graders do. I'm waiting to see how you and your boyfriend Apache respond, should be quite amusing to say the least.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
What the fcuk are you talking about? For one, I could care less about the "build quality" of AM2 boards as that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Just because AM2 gets delayed due to AMD's failure to either fix the memory controller or find a perfect moment is not relative. P'M boards are crap, because P'M was designed for LAPTOPS not desktops retard. Why do you think Intel itself didn't develope their own 479 board? It is not a priority for Intel to produce desktop 479 boards...at all. Also, P'M has crap bus speeds because of the fact that it isn't built for extreme performance-thus it falls behind the 1ghz HTT link.

 

[FUGGER]

Hector admitted defeat today and will not challange Intel for the high performance sector as FX-60 failed. Losing money in not in the best interest to AMD. Where AMD had failed was delivering quantity to supply the demand, AMD will not work in that direction with a five year plan.

Front page www.tomshardware.com and just about every other tech site with an angle on what they took from the meeting notes.

Good move for AMD, if they can meet quantity they can satisfy builders like DELL.

IDF Intel will answer dual core challange, Hector knows this. The writing was on the wall two months ago with Yonah but Conroe might be shown at IDF.

 

[ak47is1337]

Hector admitted defeat today and will not challange Intel for the high performance sector as FX-60 failed. Losing money in not in the best interest to AMD. Where AMD had failed was delivering quantity to supply the demand, AMD will not work in that direction with a five year plan.

Front page www.tomshardware.com and just about every other tech site with an angle on what they took from the meeting notes.

Good move for AMD, if they can meet quantity they can satisfy builders like DELL.

IDF Intel will answer dual core challange, Hector knows this. The writing was on the wall two months ago with Yonah but Conroe might be shown at IDF.

Yes, this is why Intel holds market share and continually outsells AMD, occasionally with inferior processor. This is why they get deals with companies like Apple AMD can't dream of...the reason is chip output.

 

[MadModMike]

According to this benchmark (and it's funny to see these kind of benchmarks in a biased site like Tom'sHardware), pentium-M is not that spectacular like how many state:

TomsHardware

That's because the P'M is severely limited by crappy bus speeds, being developed for ultra-low voltage. Give it DDR2 and it performs a lot better. Also, the boards for desktop P'M's aren't spectactular either..

But according to Apache_Lives and all his Intel Wisdom, Socket AM2 Beta Boards are of quality enough for legit testings, how come the Pentium M boards get stated otherwise? Hmm? It's interesting to see how much Intel Fanboys deny the truth, when AMD fanboys show proof their product sucks they retaliate with insults, name calling, and everything else 7th graders do. I'm waiting to see how you and your boyfriend Apache respond, should be quite amusing to say the least.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
What the fcuk are you talking about? For one, I could care less about the "build quality" of AM2 boards as that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Just because AM2 gets delayed due to AMD's failure to either fix the memory controller or find a perfect moment is not relative. P'M boards are crap, because P'M was designed for LAPTOPS not desktops retard. Why do you think Intel itself didn't develope their own 479 board? It is not a priority for Intel to produce desktop 479 boards...at all. Also, P'M has crap bus speeds because of the fact that it isn't built for extreme performance-thus it falls behind the 1ghz HTT link.

/tear ;( cry ;( ;( throw a hissy fit ;( ;( baby didn't get his bottle ;( ;( waaaaahhhh ;( ;(

SCORE:

FUGGER: 5
sepheronx: 1
CompGeek: 2
Ycon: 0
Apache_Lives: 3
ak47is1337: 2

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[FUGGER]

they retaliate with insults, name calling, and everything else 7th graders do. I'm waiting to see how you and your boyfriend Apache respond

It's a matter of time before flushes you.

 

[MadModMike]

they retaliate with insults, name calling, and everything else 7th graders do. I'm waiting to see how you and your boyfriend Apache respond

It's a matter of time before flushes you.

Hey, you think movies are good? I like movies, I have a Gatorade and just finished a Tuna Fish Sandwich, it was good. I got kicked out of class yesterday, you think my Instructor will get mad and write me up? He does that alot. You think 19" is good for an LCD screen? I think it's nice, not too big and not too small.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[ak47is1337]

they retaliate with insults, name calling, and everything else 7th graders do. I'm waiting to see how you and your boyfriend Apache respond

It's a matter of time before flushes you.

Hey, you think movies are good? I like movies, I have a Gatorade and just finished a Tuna Fish Sandwich, it was good. I got kicked out of class yesterday, you think my Instructor will get mad and write me up? He does that alot. You think 19" is good for an LCD screen? I think it's nice, not too big and not too small.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
Lawl, did you tell your instructor to buy AMD?

 

[MadModMike]

they retaliate with insults, name calling, and everything else 7th graders do. I'm waiting to see how you and your boyfriend Apache respond

It's a matter of time before flushes you.

Hey, you think movies are good? I like movies, I have a Gatorade and just finished a Tuna Fish Sandwich, it was good. I got kicked out of class yesterday, you think my Instructor will get mad and write me up? He does that alot. You think 19" is good for an LCD screen? I think it's nice, not too big and not too small.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
Lawl, did you tell your instructor to buy AMD?

He was an Intel Fanboy, I made him see the light and we built a Dual AMD Opteron 64 Server. I got kicked out for putting paper in my shirt, it was funny, he got so pissed lol.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[sepheronx]

Dear lord!!! that will be one heck of a processor.

And sorry MadModMike if i was rude, forgive me, the past while ive been over the edge with people. I must respect others fantasys and beliefes. (no matter how ignorant and stupid they are) and know to me, your the fugger. Funny thing is, you think you are all right and we are wrong, youre not almighty god you inadequate eruption of putrid dog puke.

(hehehe snap)

 

[ak47is1337]

putting paper in my shirt[/quote]
Should I even ask?

 

[MadModMike]

putting paper in my shirt

Should I even ask?[/quote]

We had just done Microsoft Access (gayest thing ever) and got alot of work back, so I got the idea to become a fatman (don't ask lol). So, everybody gave me their work and old Access pages from the book, I started shoving them into my shirt lol. He said I was being "too silly", and kicked me out for the day, I liked it, quite a nice peaceful time away from him, he's quite the moron.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[ak47is1337]

Alllllllllllllllright. Well, you already said I couldn't ask so...
Just remember, school is bullsh1t. All it does it try and put you on the track of the viewpoint of your teachers/professors, and if you EVER contradict them at all you will find yourself with a D...
You should hear some of the crap my religion teacher says about what the US' responsibility is...
I want to kill the mother fcuker, since he gives C's to kids he doesn't like.

 

[MadModMike]

Alllllllllllllllright. Well, you already said I couldn't ask so...
Just remember, school is bullsh1t. All it does it try and put you on the track of the viewpoint of your teachers/professors, and if you EVER contradict them at all you will find yourself with a D...
You should hear some of the crap my religion teacher says about what the US' responsibility is...
I want to kill the mother fcuker, since he gives C's to kids he doesn't like.

I'm at a Career Center and in a Microsoft Certified Professional/System Administrator class, the teacher is supposed to not be a moron. I had ex-teachers such as my 9th grade math teacher, he was black and failed white people, it was funny.

@seph: Got any strawberries?

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[endyen]

Well hello fugger. Come to feed us some more lines?
Tell us a really good story this time. It's been so boring without you around here.
I mean the idiot inside croud around here now can only make up stuff for the future. They go on and on about how someday.... Come on now, you can tell us how all the benchmarks in the world are wrong, and the mighty intel is the best today.
You know, after you left last time, we had an idiot troll contest, to see who could come closest to your style. Everyone gave up, after a week. Nobody has your troll style.
Let's face it, your a hasbeen as an OCer, but as a troll, you are still #1.

 

[endyen]

oh and dvdpiddy youre an idiot, I bet you are going to jump ship and go with Intel once benchmarks are released and prove Intel better,

What, and you are "not an idiot" because you are willing to spend more and get less, because you love your chipmaker?
DVD may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but all of a sudden you make him look briliant, and he didn't have to say word one?

For those of you who haven't noticed, DVD has started putting some content into his posts. There is hope for that boy yet.

 

[apache_lives]

AM2 is S939 with DDR2 and the benchmarks did not improve but the cpu ran colder so the improvement or potential is clock speed alone (extra overclocking head room)

Just as Conroe will only be a revamped Jonah with DDR2-800 support and 4MB L2 cache. Expect the same lackluster performance for such a hyped processor.

Once again, exuberant optimism. 8)

look AMD fanboy Yonah with a Y is based on dothan, conroe is new from ground up with the concept of P6 with the best bits of P4 - instead of 3 IPC its 4 (33% more ipc), double specs (twice the cache and fsb), who knows what else intel did to it and it aint by the crummy netbust team so it will be great (and pentium m = ~30, this baby is 60+w - somethings diffrent).

and 20% more performance then AMD - that kinda matches concidering intels releasing a 2.66ghz model when AMD releases the 2.8ghz model.

leap frog time AMD fanboy - not as if intel will release a processor slower the the competition.

 

[MadModMike]

AM2 is S939 with DDR2 and the benchmarks did not improve but the cpu ran colder so the improvement or potential is clock speed alone (extra overclocking head room)

Just as Conroe will only be a revamped Jonah with DDR2-800 support and 4MB L2 cache. Expect the same lackluster performance for such a hyped processor.

Once again, exuberant optimism. 8)

look AMD fanboy Yonah with a Y is based on dothan, conroe is new from ground up with the concept of P6 with the best bits of P4 - instead of 3 IPC its 4 (33% more ipc), double specs (twice the cache and fsb), who knows what else intel did to it and it aint by the crummy netbust team so it will be great (and pentium m = ~30, this baby is 60+w - somethings diffrent).

and 20% more performance then AMD - that kinda matches concidering intels releasing a 2.66ghz model when AMD releases the 2.8ghz model.

leap frog time AMD fanboy - not as if intel will release a processor slower the the competition.

Got any strawberries?

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[hergieburbur]

Couple things:

Conroe will be a good chip, better than anything we have seen out of Intel lately (funny how they had to swallow their pride and admit the GHz myth to get there though). I really hope it does give AMD a run for the money. However, I do think that Intels claims are a bit outrageous at this point in the game, but then, their marketing usually is.

Anyone who thinks the AM2 that we see today is the same AM2 we will at release is either really new to this game, or an idiot. With the problems AMD is having, they will either get them straightened out (It doesn't even benefit from Dual Channel at the moment) or delay release again. AM2 also is not meant to be a barn burner at launch. It is meant to be a step forward by utilizing better memory.

Fugger, as I said before, how is maintaining a 40-50% market share (infact around 80% for Q1 06) admitting defeat when they started so low? I would call that a victory, and I would love to see both companies maintain roughly equal market shares. Better products for us at lower prices.

Anyone see the article where Intel talks about 100's of cores... in the future? Kinda makes that multi-core fad post sound pretty funny doesn't it? I hope they get their core intercommunications straightened out by then :twisted:

 

[hergieburbur]

leap frog time AMD fanboy - not as if intel will release a processor slower the the competition.

Sorry, I had to say this though:

Anyone else remember when they first released the P4's that were slower than both the P3's and the AMDs at the time??

I doubt we'll see a repeat of that this time.

 

[endyen]

Anyone else remember when they first released the P4's that were slower than both the P3's and the AMDs at the time??

It's not like they did that any other time.




Well unless you count prescott.
Then again, mmx was pretty much all hype too.
Of course the original pentiums were,,,, well pretty mediocre.
Intel has never really come through with a "new product" that really shined. They do their best work on polishing old. Can you say tualatan and northwoodC?

 

[apache_lives]

Anyone else remember when they first released the P4's that were slower than both the P3's and the AMDs at the time??

It's not like they did that any other time.




Well unless you count prescott.
Then again, mmx was pretty much all hype too.
Of course the original pentiums were,,,, well pretty mediocre.
Intel has never really come through with a "new product" that really shined. They do their best work on polishing old. Can you say tualatan and northwoodC?

i agree, as for tualatin, there coppermines (i believe there the first great chip from intel - finally ditched the slot1, fast and refined) were great (nots so much better then amd at the time, but within 10% of each other, half were won by amd the other half by intel), tualatin was even better (the 1.26 took out a 1400 amd easily), and northwood was also good (also not better but good and yeah northwood c was great (where i left off) and prescott was... yeah crap, and the 65nm P4's, sort of where northwood left off, but seriously northwood stoped at 3400mhz and even with 2 more refinements (90 and 65nm) its another 400mhz or extra core and thats it...

 

[apache_lives]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_Pro

"The Pentium Pro (P6) core featured an array of advanced RISC technologies, here used for the first time in an x86 CPU. Perhaps the most obvious sign that things had changed was that the CPU's "front end" decoded the old IA32 instructions into micro-instructions which the Pro's RISC core then processed. The core of Pentium Pro featured several new technologies, including: speculative execution, superpipelining, an incredibly advanced L2 cache, register renaming, out of order execution, and a wider 36-bit address bus."

P6 is believed to be the greatest change to processors in the history of desktop cpus, its the mother of P6, codenamed P6 (dur!) - P2 was a PPro with off die cache and MMX (used the same bus and everything else), P3 added SSE (and coppermine P3 finally had on die cache) and Pentium M added SSE2 and QDR fsb.

I got a few lieing round and a working board (i440fx chipset by gigabyte!).

 

[Abraxas]

Hector admitted defeat today and will not challange Intel for the high performance sector as FX-60 failed. Losing money in not in the best interest to AMD. Where AMD had failed was delivering quantity to supply the demand, AMD will not work in that direction with a five year plan.

Front page www.tomshardware.com and just about every other tech site with an angle on what they took from the meeting notes.

Good move for AMD, if they can meet quantity they can satisfy builders like DELL.

IDF Intel will answer dual core challange, Hector knows this. The writing was on the wall two months ago with Yonah but Conroe might be shown at IDF.

Yes, this is why Intel holds market share and continually outsells AMD, occasionally with inferior processor. This is why they get deals with companies like Apple AMD can't dream of...the reason is chip output.

Um, last I heard, AMD was taking marketshare from Intel. Even if Intel can crank out 10k more space heaters daily.

Thats why people buy Intel; heat their homes. As long as you can afford the electricity bill, you can own an Intel. Then you don't need a furnace. In the long run it saves But during summer, they move the computer to the nearest window and blow the hot air outside.

Intel causes global warming.