Intel Revises Heatsink Design For Desktop, Xeon CPUs

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[citation][nom]COLGeek[/nom]If it still uses the nearly useless "push-pin" connectors, then the new ones will go where my old ones go.....to the recycling bin. I have found Intel OEM HSFs to be pure junk because they don't mount as securely as I require.[/citation]
the "push pin" was elected as one of the worse design on tech industry on tom's b4
 
[citation][nom]freggo[/nom]if there is no improvement or other advantage than what's the point?Needed to keep the design department busy ?[/citation]
need to keep those fanboy refresh 😛
 
[citation][nom]mavikt[/nom]Who uses them? I have two unused Intel stock coolers sitting here at home, any takers? When you buy a processor, this is probably the most costly thing in the box, in terms of material and shipping. It's the heaviest and most spacious thing in the box. When I'm buying an Intel processor, I'm buying their know-how in processor design. I'm not shopping for their "splendid" stock coolers (although I'm sure they get the job done). I'd say, separate them from shipping with the processor and subject them to the free market![/citation]

true that most enthusiasts won't use a stock cooler... btu we are such a small percentage of the market, a small pc store making thier own machines will usually put in the stock cpu as will most oem pc makers. I make alot of pc's for friends and family and when somebody wants a cheap pc i tend to steer them toward efficiency so a 1-3 2120 costing $134 and using 35 watts is a good choice for somebody whos most strenuous program is when they play farmville on facebook

but yea in my wife's computer i threw that little sorry excuse for a cooler away in favor of a 212+.. so hard tyo beat the coolign to value there
 
[citation][nom]g00fysmiley[/nom]save a tiny bit of metal and plastic. its the same reason most dice have pips and rounded corners, it saves plastic and thus thier materials cost goes down. if they can save .01 cents per cpu fan and sell 1,000,000 cpus then they save 10,000 bucks[/citation]
not disagreeing in general, but perfectly square dice with sharp corners don't really work well at all
 
[citation][nom]thecolorblue[/nom]not disagreeing in general, but perfectly square dice with sharp corners don't really work well at all[/citation]

I prefer my dice to be somewhat cubic rather than square 😛
 
Now they just need to include a better stock cooler with their i7's since giving the same one for a low end i3 is pretty lame when somebody gets their fancy new i7 for video editing and has to deal with shutdowns due to heat.
 
[citation][nom]blazorthon[/nom]If they're changing the cooler, why not change it for the better than a change that no matter how much they say it is visual, seems to just be a way to reduce the BOM slightly? Even AMD can make some pretty good stock coolers, but Intel refuses to make anything half-decent.[/citation]
Unless they got some new milling machine that will do more work for lesser expenses I would say that BOM goes up because this circle is smaller than old square and it means longer milling time.
 
[citation][nom]Hetneo[/nom]Unless they got some new milling machine that will do more work for lesser expenses I would say that BOM goes up because this circle is smaller than old square and it means longer milling time.[/citation]

If that is the case, then I'd fail to see any point in changing the coolers like this.
 
[citation][nom]COLGeek[/nom]If it still uses the nearly useless "push-pin" connectors, then the new ones will go where my old ones go.....to the recycling bin. I have found Intel OEM HSFs to be pure junk because they don't mount as securely as I require.[/citation]

if you cant fit them correctly your an idiot

there is nothing wrong with the design it works 100% you just dont know how to i suggest the old saying "RTFM"
 
[citation][nom]beayn[/nom]Now they just need to include a better stock cooler with their i7's since giving the same one for a low end i3 is pretty lame when somebody gets their fancy new i7 for video editing and has to deal with shutdowns due to heat.[/citation]

i live in Australia, zero shut-down issues with i7 HSF's - your doing it wrong

i3 HSF's dont have a copper core like the i5's and i7's (quad core chips)
 
[citation][nom]josejones[/nom]Just stop including these cheap stock HS & F's with the CPU and drop the price by $20. Nobody likes them because they don't cool worth a crap.[/citation]

they work but most important 10+ years later they will *still* be working - those Intel fans are invincible
 
This doesn't make a difference in performance so why is this news. That's why I always stick to 3rd party heat sinks, they can get the job done better than any of Intel's. Intel, I rather you pay me the difference for my heat sink, and I'll keep my processor, thanks.
 
[citation][nom]invlem[/nom]If it has no effect on performance, then its most likely a cost based change, companies don't generally do design changes unless it improves product performance or reduces manufacturing costs. In this case I'll go with option B.[/citation]
i see your point, but they could at least include some heat-pipes and the thing, lol...AMD does!!!
 
So is this "New FAB shroud" design more FABulous than the "current fan shroud" design? 0_o
 
[citation][nom]apache_lives[/nom]if you cant fit them correctly your an idiotthere is nothing wrong with the design it works 100% you just dont know how to i suggest the old saying "RTFM"[/citation]

*Push-pin snaps*

*You cut yourself on the metal*

Tomhardware's reviewers occasionally break the push-pins, and they have a lot of damaged HSF. Go ahead, call the experienced folks an idiot.
 
[citation][nom]A Bad Day[/nom]*Push-pin snaps**You cut yourself on the metal*Tomhardware's reviewers occasionally break the push-pins, and they have a lot of damaged HSF. Go ahead, call the experienced folks an idiot.[/citation]

Review sites asses hardware for ~1-2 weeks max and constantly re-assemble the systems, this is not real world situations this is not the intended workload for that design.

THG can only show you short term results on products not long term - THG has nothing on me.

Cant fit the HSF? Ill give you a little hardware lesson if you want, ill show you how to fit them properly :)
 
[citation][nom]apache_lives[/nom]Review sites asses hardware for ~1-2 weeks max and constantly re-assemble the systems, this is not real world situations this is not the intended workload for that design.THG can only show you short term results on products not long term - THG has nothing on me.Cant fit the HSF? Ill give you a little hardware lesson if you want, ill show you how to fit them properly[/citation]

Whether or not they're useless is not in question because they're not. However, surely even you can admit that the push-pins are an inferior design to the usual mounting brackets and such that we have. I really like AMD's default mounting bracket because it is so easy to use. Heck, screws are better than using push-pins.
 
[citation][nom]blazorthon[/nom]Whether or not they're useless is not in question because they're not. However, surely even you can admit that the push-pins are an inferior design to the usual mounting brackets and such that we have. I really like AMD's default mounting bracket because it is so easy to use. Heck, screws are better than using push-pins.[/citation]

I see them broken from time to time, there no easier/harder then the Intel design, the AMD design reference coolers dont really cool everything around the CPU (chipset/vrm, both etc) and higner end ones require higher air pressure (blades too close together) which a tiny ammount of dust blocks them up which then requires alot more effort to carefully remove the plastic shroud/fan to clean it out, also we see alot of corrosion on them.

PS i can remove, clean and re-fit an Intel push-pin HSF in under a minute.
 
[citation][nom]apache_lives[/nom]I see them broken from time to time, there no easier/harder then the Intel design, the AMD design reference coolers dont really cool everything around the CPU (chipset/vrm, both etc) and higner end ones require higher air pressure (blades too close together) which a tiny ammount of dust blocks them up which then requires alot more effort to carefully remove the plastic shroud/fan to clean it out, also we see alot of corrosion on them.PS i can remove, clean and re-fit an Intel push-pin HSF in under a minute.[/citation]

I said that I like AMD's bracket, not that I'm using an AMD cooler. However, they do seem to handle heat better than Intel's when I push them in overclocking. I haven't had a problem with AMD's AM2/AM3 brackets breaking in my systems at all, but I also don't break push-pins much at all (still don't like them).
 
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