Intel Threatens to Sue HDCP Crack Users

[Guest]

Awesome, I want free stuff, I should be allowed to have free stuff.

 

[njalterio]

[citation][nom]kinggraves[/nom]HDCP was one of the worst ideas ever, good riddance. HDMI is just now catching up with what an RJ45 could've done 10 years ago. It set the HD trend back several years since slow adopters had to buy a new HDCP monitor and HDCP video card and HDCP cabling which got along with the HDCP software.At least they kept the AV receiver companies in business with how hard it was to set up a "protected path" with a PC."Oops, something didn't get along and now your thousand dollar setup is worthless. Too bad, we still have all your money"[/citation]

I haven't had any issues using PCs in such a way. Haven't all video cards and monitors/TVs been HDCP compliant for at least 4-5 years now? My HD3870 is still HDCP compliant. Software is still a pain in the arse though....

 

[milktea]

Yea, it's just a political statement from INTEL. They just pretent that they care, but would actually do nothing about it. 😛

 

[Khimera2000]

So its ok for intel to rip of AMD but its not ok for otheres to rip them off ?? LOL

 

[COLGeek]

This is pure FUD on the part of Intel. Nothing here of substance. 'Nuf said.

 

[jalek]

Intel needs to get back to what it's good at, microtransactions to unlock processor performance.

 

[hellwig]

"Someone has used mathematics and computers to be able to work back to what the master key is," Waldrop said.

God I hope they used Intel processors, the irony!

 

[thillntn]

I'm thinking this is mainly for manufactures that want to make a breakout box to strip hdcp off of hdmi signals....Intel is basically saying no.

 

[eyemaster]

[citation][nom]bluntobjection[/nom]Seems more like Intel is bluffing, I doubt Intel would be able to detect if you have said device installed in the first place.[/citation]
They might be talking about commercially created devices, or knock offs. I doubt they care about individuals at home hacking the code.

 

[mhelm1]

How are those lawsuits against the Chinese going?

 

[migevaan]

They could not detect, but if indeed you need to use a silicon based product for unlocking Blueray players, then maker of the dongles (or such) could be easily sued.

But if possible to use as pc-software / player firmware based crack, then detecting is pretty hard and suing every individual not very effective. Hello freedom!

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Maybe this is why they stopped LRB? j/k
Anyone still love Hollowood?

 

[bv90andy]

I thought they weren't worried. At least that's what they said in the last news article.

 

[jlehew]

I did a quick search for some engineering documents on HDCP and Intel is correct. Implementing this requires spinning new silicon. HDCP is incorporated into the HDMI controller chip and encrypts the signals over HDMI. It does a handshake between the source and receiver HDMI controllers before turning HDCP on meaning implementing this on the receiving end would be difficult. But, implementing a slight change to the ROM in the source ( i.e. Blu-ray player) that never really turned on HDCP even though the ROM attempted to do so would be easier. This would not involve any master key. It all depends on if Intel thought of this possibility and implemented a countermeasure to prevent this. I have Netflix so I don't need to copy any disks.

 

[phantom93]

why is HDCP there anyways, its annoying....

 

[Guest]

HDfury, anyone?

 

[digitalrazoe]

OH!! lets see .. I sue you for cracking something that we all YELD was crackable and yet you are going to charge citizens 50 bucks to unlock an overpriced piece of silicon ? You got some damn nerve !!! You do realize that you ( intel )let the beast free to run amok set our BluRays FREE !

 

[digitalrazoe]

that would be inel sues the cracker .. sorry ...

 

[Gin Fushicho]

Intel feels threatened, amazing. I think that's a good thing for them though, they need a threat every now and then to remember they are not gods.

 

[ang1dust]

They are just bitter loosing the lawsuit to AMD the beginning of this year and want to sue someone else...

 

[techguy378]

[citation][nom]TheMadScientist[/nom]I do not agree with Intel. A college level EE with an off-the-shelf FPGA could probably make a working decoder. Given how computers are increasing in speed, you could probably make a working device in software only, especially if you are only interested in a rip, not a real-time player.[/citation]
It's very doubtful. The HDCP master key is not an easy thing to crack. It would take even the most advanced supercomputer years to crack the master key. This has probably been a very, very, very long time coming. Intel should sue anyone who uses this chip for their entire life savings. Nobody has any business selling or making devices that can remove copy protection from movies. Movies like all other software are licensed, not sold.

 

[ceteras]

[citation][nom]zaznet[/nom]The whole "has to be done in silicon" argument seems pretty short sighted. Just because that's how Intel did it originally doesn't mean a system bypassing it has to be done the same way.[/citation]
The guy knows what he's talking about. Think about the HDMI bandwith and then calculate the number of instructions per second you need to decode that in software, real-time.

intel would sue manufacturers creating these chips, not end users because there will be no end users anytime soon.
This will never be a DIY project unles you're a EE student playing with high-end FPGA's. So this will never have a critical mass to take off.

 

[Hilarion]

[citation][nom]techguy378[/nom]It's very doubtful. The HDCP master key is not an easy thing to crack. It would take even the most advanced supercomputer years to crack the master key. This has probably been a very, very, very long time coming. Intel should sue anyone who uses this chip for their entire life savings. Nobody has any business selling or making devices that can remove copy protection from movies. Movies like all other software are licensed, not sold.[/citation]
So how is the payroll working for intel and the MPAA?

 

[cookoy]

well intel security technology is not that secure after all. they have to come up with something better. threatening to sue crack users is not the answer.

 

[WyomingKnott]

[citation][nom]icepick314[/nom]does this mean AnyDVD HD won't need anymore "updates"?[/citation]
No, it means that they will come out with a new content obfuscation scheme and we will need to buy all new players, monitors, and cables.