Intel's 45nm chips coming next year

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Hype? we have yonah already - its quick, conroe adds to it, conroe can only do better, as for AMD hype - AM2 - same performance as any DDR1 A64 - wow, were going to have that for another year atleast, where as intel is throwing in a new processor - i find that more promising, interesting - intels also not going to design a cpu to loose, they want to hammer the hammer.
 
This is for all Morons who think they know it all. Untel you know the facts and read stats of each cpu shut the hell Up.

Here another fact. For the past 14 Years I keep up on computers I learn Intel and Amd leap frog each other. Let me show u.

Amd wins the ghz race. What dose intel do? A rush P4 which they had problems with and had to recall them. And released the p3 1.13ghz.

Then untel Amd 1800 amd had the lead. Then intel took over the lead. Big deal.

Then there was something With the EE chip that intel seem to have to bring out due to Amd was ahead. Another woopie due.

Then Intel released Presscott the heater plus the high cost of running it.

Then it seem Amd came out with the New 64 bit. Guess what Intel had to rush it own 64 bit when intel told everyone 64 bit was not worth it.

Then Amd had a dual core setup Intel rush to run there own dual core.


Here one fact everyone keep forgetting. Intel and amd leap frog each other on tech and this is a good thing. If Amd or intel went under We still be in stone age of computers. Why? Intel or Amd would not want to update there computers.

Here my two laptops

Pro-Star Intel 3.4 ee l3 2mb cache 17 inch monitor 1 gb of ram Dual 80gb hard drives Radeon 9700 video card.

Acer Intel Duo 1.66ghz 2mb l2 cache 15.4 inch monitor 1 gb of ram 100gb hard disk onboard grapics.

Here why I aim for the two. One for high end games. The other for games and battery life.
 
I just wanna win the powerball.... once.

Just to feel what it is like to win.

Then it won't matter how much technology costs to me.. :roll:
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Ah, you have swayed me. we shall pool our resources among THG members and then split the winnings :)
 
I just wanna win the powerball.... once.

Just to feel what it is like to win.

Then it won't matter how much technology costs to me.. :roll:
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Ah, you have swayed me. we shall pool our resources among THG members and then split the winnings :)

Hehe..
 
Until I actually see a 3rd party confirm the performance of conroe, I'll keep holding my breath. They always overhype their chips. I know a lot of Intel fanboys are angry that AMD whips their butt. Look at the positive because Intel is being pushed by AMD we all win. Intel is going to fight to get the lead back and AMD will counter and we all end up with faster computers.
 
That's all that matters.
Conroe already showed some very reasonable prices so it's obvious that Intel does not like not being first on desktop market. The same goes with AMD on mobile. The turion dual core needs to match the Duo.
There are many things to be looking forward to this year.
The only bad news is that anyone who needs to upgrade will probably have to
-wait another couple of months
-change mobo cpu and probably memory
The same with Gfx cards. Nvidia won't beat ATI's very high end but they are aiming for best bang for buck.
A 7900 GT 450/1300 mhz at 299$ makes a very tempting offer.
 
AMD's core design will not ever do more than 3ghz stock. AMD has done wonders with thier 90nm process, but very near it's end. IBM/AMD say that can get 40% more out of 65nm. Time will tell.

Intel's Conroe will put Intel back in the lead. AMD may be able to get a slight leed with 65nm. Then Intel brings out many inovations with thier 45nm process. Leap Ahead, or leap frog?
 
I agree but really,i try to avoid posting valid info like this cause then i'll get quoted by every little AMD fanboy on the forum.
AMD AM2 high end will come with 2.8 GHZ .
The are two other AM2 chips (FX 64 and X2 5400 i think) . FX 64 might be clocked at 3 ghz though it won't arrive till the full implemention of 64nm on AMD chips which will take a while.
Intel will clearly have a better offer at first with tempting 2.66 and 2.4 ghz at reasonable prices,followed by a 3.3ghz monster.

BTW By the time AMD implements 65 nm Intel will be ready with their 45nm. :lol: When Intel gets working,AMD can't keep up and that is no wonder considering that Intel is a lot more bigger than AMD
 
I'm a Conroe fanboy. Quote me on that!

AM2 is going to be better than the THG review. And 65nm will be seen this year. AMD is not going to sit back and watch Intel woop'em. Then there is the prices, a 2.66ghz E6700 for $529? Half price of a FX60, over 20% faster, and half the TDP? Get ready for a price war!

Not just CPUs, but video card too!
 
It just goes to show... no matter how much you try to educate the Inteliots, the less effect it has.

Still making a big deal over clock speed? Didn't AMD prove that clock speed alone does not make a high-performance CPU? Yet you drone on and on and on and on about how high the Intel CPUs can be clocked / overclocked. I don't make CPU chioces based on how much I can overclock it... I choose the best-performing CPU at stock. After all, if you have to overclock that chip to 4+ GHz before it beats AMD's fastest CPUs... what does that say about that particular processor at stock? And considering the performance at 4+ GHz isn't that much better than a CPU clocked at 2.6GHz... how can you keep touting clock speed over substance?
 
It just goes to show... no matter how much you try to educate the Inteliots, the less effect it has.

Still making a big deal over clock speed? Didn't AMD prove that clock speed alone does not make a high-performance CPU? Yet you drone on and on and on and on about how high the Intel CPUs can be clocked / overclocked. I don't make CPU chioces based on how much I can overclock it... I choose the best-performing CPU at stock. After all, if you have to overclock that chip to 4+ GHz before it beats AMD's fastest CPUs... what does that say about that particular processor at stock? And considering the performance at 4+ GHz isn't that much better than a CPU clocked at 2.6GHz... how can you keep touting clock speed over substance?
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So your an AMD fanboy?

Seriously AMD's time to rule is over, conroe could outclock the AMD cause of 65nm and 14 stages, its extra performance (+20%) is even more interesting, and Intels not going to design another cpu for AMD to win, besides, P6 design is proven its self throughout the years and Yonah was ahead of schedual aswell as Conroe - they aint a rush job.

What i am waiting for is a price war to see whats best to buy - if conroe holds up its hype and really is quick AMD will drop its prices to match, whatever happens, its true - we win.
 
Im angry at the fact that everyone (most) believes AMD can do a turn around with some decent chips (eg K7->K8 solved most known AMD issues eg heat and burnouts) where as Intel, no one believes they can change (P4->Conroe, ie colder faster chips which THEY ALREADY HAVE) - im not saying they will do any better but theres more of a chance that they will come back better then ever - they seem proud of there new design and gave it new names (core duo and so on) cause the pentium name after P4c was poo-poo'd.
 
I agree. The Prescotts on the 90nm process sucked, but everybody said that the Pentium Ms on that *same* 90nm process were the best-of-breed. It's all about the chip's microarchitecture, the process means less.
 
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