Intel's 45nm chips coming next year

[linux_0]

The P3 derived architecture is a lot better than the P4 architecture.

P3s and their derivatives are actually decent CPUs for the most part ;-)

AMD64 is still architecturally superior tho 😀

 

[MU_Engineer]

And Intel and AMD use different methods to compute TDP too. Intel uses the Underwriters' Laboratories standard, which is to run the chip at 2/3 absolute maximum peak wattage draw. AMD lists TDP as absolute maximum peak wattage draw, so you can't even compare THAT number.

It's almost as bad as the PPC-x86 debates a while ago...

 

[dvdpiddy]

x86 rules now

 

[MU_Engineer]

Oh, I know. That's why I said "a few years ago."

 

[DeathwingX]

y are we aruging? how about we wait till the chips come out, test them then we complain about it? that alwayz works.

 

[dvdpiddy]

fine we wait

 

[apache_lives]

*ten years later*
BlueRayPiddy: Dam! we should have betted on Transmetta
Winux: Yeah, the Athlon128 let us down bigtime

I actually wonder what people in 10 years will think of us and out Conroe VS AM2 remarks and how wrong some of us will be (could be me or you - never know).

 

[apache_lives]

*ten years later*
BlueRayPiddy: Dam! we should have betted on Transmetta
Winux: Yeah, the Athlon128 let us down bigtime

I actually wonder what people in 10 years will think of us and out Conroe VS AM2 remarks and how wrong some of us will be (could be me or you - never know).

BTW - Pentium M and Pentium 3 architecture is P6 architecture made around the days of the Pentium 1 (p54c) and brought the most amount of changes to cpu design at once then any other x86 cpu, its design has been round for years and is about to come back to replace the P4 - the good old P3 days again... tell me what P6 design was a failure? cause every single one was colder and quicker then the last (aproximate thermal specs + nm + max speed sold): P6(350nm, 40w, 200mhz) -> clamath(350nm 40w 333mhz) -> deschutes(30w 250nm 450mhz) -> Katmai(30w 250nm 600mhz) -> Coppermine(30w 180nm 1000mhz) -> Tualatin (27w 130nm 1400mhz) -> bananas (27w 130nm 1700mhz) -> dothan (30w 90nm 2133mhz) -> yonah (30w 65nm 2x2000mhz) -> conroe (????) - the design is proven, same as AMDs series and design so i give intel credit for waking up and ditching netburst/P4 for there best architecture they had all along.

 

[linux_0]

Where do you get your information????

In ten years the Athlon 512 will be out 😀

:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

 

[linux_0]

In all seriousness... the P3 was decent.

The AMD64 is about equal to the P3/P6 derived Intel MHz for MHz in 32bit mode.

In 64bit mode the AMD is still better and still has a superior architecture overall.

So we shall see what happens.

 

[dvdpiddy]

wow dude i cant beleive you still remember all of that

 

[hashv2f16]

nice siggy linux it takes up about half of my 800x600 screen

 

[corvetteguy]

i'm guessing i have that clamath cause my p2 is 366mhz.

but soon my new rig with 3700 will come and i can hide this shit away somewhere, or figure out how to make it a firewall. 8)

 

[linux_0]

Hehe 😀

Shall I make it larger then?

I apologize for my obnoxious sig.

 

[linux_0]

Linux and BSD make great firewalls 😀

 

[MU_Engineer]

Hee hee hee. I am REALLY enjoying my new 1600x1200 screen- the big sig takes up just a tiny part.

I used to have a 14" IBM 800x600 screen and yeah, it was little.

 

[MU_Engineer]

That Opty is about life size, huh?

 

[conroe]

Actuallly Dothan has a edge on K8 in IPC. And 64bit is still useless. I tryed x64 and alot of games and apps just would not install or run. Then the drivers! And no real 64bit programs.

 

[leexgx]

make it smaller or some one will (that has power i asume)

(i am useing an screen at 1280x1024 and that pic is very big)

hmm the topic i do not care about it (just an other flame war)

 

[dvdpiddy]

nice siggy linux it takes up about half of my 800x600 screen

well i think its a nice sig maybe ill asl linux if i could copy it so it takes up your whole screen :lol:

 

[conroe]

I just got a wide screen, 1600x1050 so I can see just fine. Heh. :lol:
Like'n it too, ViewSonic VA2012wb 8ms.

 

[linux_0]

Yeah it's almost actual size.

My sig is actually tiny on my 21" monitor @ 2048x1536

 

[linux_0]

Tru64 on the windoze side. Not Tru64 on the Linux, BSD and Unix side.

 

[conroe]

WOW, thats like haveing TWO monitors in one!

 

[linux_0]

It is 4 times the screen area however 😀