Internet slowed down by another using wireless.

[YellowSnow]

I am using my 2nd router which is connected to my main router downstairs. My 2nd router is then connected to my computer via ethernet cable. My ping is at an ok 52 but whenever my brother downstairs in connected to the internet via wifi it makes my ping go bad. Is their anyway I can fix this so we can both have good pings?

 

[Faike]

There's something called QOS in your router and on your PC adapter network thing and it means Quality of Service.
Issues with this is that a lot of times idle Wifi devices will tell your router to allocate more bandwidth to the WiFi device rather than your PC.
A fix for this is to first disable QOS in your network adapter settings. Then disable it in your router/modem settings. This will stop Wifi devices from being prioritized over your PC.

 

[YellowSnow]

There's something called QOS in your router and on your PC adapter network thing and it means Quality of Service.
Issues with this is that a lot of times idle Wifi devices will tell your router to allocate more bandwidth to the WiFi device rather than your PC.
A fix for this is to first disable QOS in your network adapter settings. Then disable it in your router/modem settings. This will stop Wifi devices from being prioritized over your PC.

is the name of it Qos Packet Scheduler? and how do I look at my router/modem settings?

 

[Faike]

There's something called QOS in your router and on your PC adapter network thing and it means Quality of Service.
Issues with this is that a lot of times idle Wifi devices will tell your router to allocate more bandwidth to the WiFi device rather than your PC.
A fix for this is to first disable QOS in your network adapter settings. Then disable it in your router/modem settings. This will stop Wifi devices from being prioritized over your PC.

is the name of it Qos Packet Scheduler? and how do I look at my router/modem settings?

Yes it's called QOS packet scheduler. Uncheck it. Also in your network adapter settings you can do the following for a slight boost:
Disable Flow Control, Interrupt Moderation, Wake up on Magic Packet, Wake up on ____, disable Shut Down Speeds, disable Energy Efficient Ethernet if you have any of those options.

To turn off QOS in your router I need to know your router/modem. But usually it's in configuration for WiFi or Performance and you can just uncheck it.

Most routers you can connect to by going to 192.168.0.1 or for linksys: 192.168.1.1 or for other router models you can google how to get into it. The username and passwords for the router is usually admin and password or admin admin or something, again available online.

 

[YellowSnow]

There's something called QOS in your router and on your PC adapter network thing and it means Quality of Service.
Issues with this is that a lot of times idle Wifi devices will tell your router to allocate more bandwidth to the WiFi device rather than your PC.
A fix for this is to first disable QOS in your network adapter settings. Then disable it in your router/modem settings. This will stop Wifi devices from being prioritized over your PC.

is the name of it Qos Packet Scheduler? and how do I look at my router/modem settings?

Yes it's called QOS packet scheduler. Uncheck it. Also in your network adapter settings you can do the following for a slight boost:
Disable Flow Control, Interrupt Moderation, Wake up on Magic Packet, Wake up on ____, disable Shut Down Speeds, disable Energy Efficient Ethernet if you have any of those options.

To turn off QOS in your router I need to know your router/modem. But usually it's in configuration for WiFi or Performance and you can just uncheck it.

Most routers you can connect to by going to 192.168.0.1 or for linksys: 192.168.1.1 or for other router models you can google how to get into it. The username and passwords for the router is usually admin and password or admin admin or something, again available online.

Ok, I will see if this works. Thank you

 

[YellowSnow]

There's something called QOS in your router and on your PC adapter network thing and it means Quality of Service.
Issues with this is that a lot of times idle Wifi devices will tell your router to allocate more bandwidth to the WiFi device rather than your PC.
A fix for this is to first disable QOS in your network adapter settings. Then disable it in your router/modem settings. This will stop Wifi devices from being prioritized over your PC.

is the name of it Qos Packet Scheduler? and how do I look at my router/modem settings?

Yes it's called QOS packet scheduler. Uncheck it. Also in your network adapter settings you can do the following for a slight boost:
Disable Flow Control, Interrupt Moderation, Wake up on Magic Packet, Wake up on ____, disable Shut Down Speeds, disable Energy Efficient Ethernet if you have any of those options.

To turn off QOS in your router I need to know your router/modem. But usually it's in configuration for WiFi or Performance and you can just uncheck it.

Most routers you can connect to by going to 192.168.0.1 or for linksys: 192.168.1.1 or for other router models you can google how to get into it. The username and passwords for the router is usually admin and password or admin admin or something, again available online.

It is still the same on both routers. The main router has an average of 148ms and the 2nd router having an average of 89ms. I am using command prompt to test my ping btw.

 

[Faike]

There's something called QOS in your router and on your PC adapter network thing and it means Quality of Service.
Issues with this is that a lot of times idle Wifi devices will tell your router to allocate more bandwidth to the WiFi device rather than your PC.
A fix for this is to first disable QOS in your network adapter settings. Then disable it in your router/modem settings. This will stop Wifi devices from being prioritized over your PC.

is the name of it Qos Packet Scheduler? and how do I look at my router/modem settings?

Yes it's called QOS packet scheduler. Uncheck it. Also in your network adapter settings you can do the following for a slight boost:
Disable Flow Control, Interrupt Moderation, Wake up on Magic Packet, Wake up on ____, disable Shut Down Speeds, disable Energy Efficient Ethernet if you have any of those options.

To turn off QOS in your router I need to know your router/modem. But usually it's in configuration for WiFi or Performance and you can just uncheck it.

Most routers you can connect to by going to 192.168.0.1 or for linksys: 192.168.1.1 or for other router models you can google how to get into it. The username and passwords for the router is usually admin and password or admin admin or something, again available online.

It is still the same on both routers. The main router has an average of 148ms and the 2nd router having an average of 89ms. I am using command prompt to test my ping btw.

First disable QOS and hit Okay on your network adapter. Then go through and disable all the settings I said and hit okay again. Your network will reset quickly.
Did you get into your router?

 

[YellowSnow]

There's something called QOS in your router and on your PC adapter network thing and it means Quality of Service.
Issues with this is that a lot of times idle Wifi devices will tell your router to allocate more bandwidth to the WiFi device rather than your PC.
A fix for this is to first disable QOS in your network adapter settings. Then disable it in your router/modem settings. This will stop Wifi devices from being prioritized over your PC.

is the name of it Qos Packet Scheduler? and how do I look at my router/modem settings?

Yes it's called QOS packet scheduler. Uncheck it. Also in your network adapter settings you can do the following for a slight boost:
Disable Flow Control, Interrupt Moderation, Wake up on Magic Packet, Wake up on ____, disable Shut Down Speeds, disable Energy Efficient Ethernet if you have any of those options.

To turn off QOS in your router I need to know your router/modem. But usually it's in configuration for WiFi or Performance and you can just uncheck it.

Most routers you can connect to by going to 192.168.0.1 or for linksys: 192.168.1.1 or for other router models you can google how to get into it. The username and passwords for the router is usually admin and password or admin admin or something, again available online.

It is still the same on both routers. The main router has an average of 148ms and the 2nd router having an average of 89ms. I am using command prompt to test my ping btw.

First disable QOS and hit Okay on your network adapter. Then go through and disable all the settings I said and hit okay again. Your network will reset quickly.
Did you get into your router?

Yes I was able to get into my router and I disabled QoS, I was only able to disable Flow Control, Interrupt Moderation and Wake up on Magic Packet. and QoS packet scheduler is disabled. Also the settings that I am altering on the router are on my main router, not the one that is plugged into my pc. Could that be it?

 

[Faike]

There's something called QOS in your router and on your PC adapter network thing and it means Quality of Service.
Issues with this is that a lot of times idle Wifi devices will tell your router to allocate more bandwidth to the WiFi device rather than your PC.
A fix for this is to first disable QOS in your network adapter settings. Then disable it in your router/modem settings. This will stop Wifi devices from being prioritized over your PC.

is the name of it Qos Packet Scheduler? and how do I look at my router/modem settings?

Yes it's called QOS packet scheduler. Uncheck it. Also in your network adapter settings you can do the following for a slight boost:
Disable Flow Control, Interrupt Moderation, Wake up on Magic Packet, Wake up on ____, disable Shut Down Speeds, disable Energy Efficient Ethernet if you have any of those options.

To turn off QOS in your router I need to know your router/modem. But usually it's in configuration for WiFi or Performance and you can just uncheck it.

Most routers you can connect to by going to 192.168.0.1 or for linksys: 192.168.1.1 or for other router models you can google how to get into it. The username and passwords for the router is usually admin and password or admin admin or something, again available online.

It is still the same on both routers. The main router has an average of 148ms and the 2nd router having an average of 89ms. I am using command prompt to test my ping btw.

First disable QOS and hit Okay on your network adapter. Then go through and disable all the settings I said and hit okay again. Your network will reset quickly.
Did you get into your router?

Yes I was able to get into my router and I disabled QoS, I was only able to disable Flow Control, Interrupt Moderation and Wake up on Magic Packet. and QoS packet scheduler is disabled. Also the settings that I am altering on the router are on my main router, not the one that is plugged into my pc. Could that be it?

Well yes because the one thats plugged into your PC is the one your brother is connecting to causing you to have latency spikes right? xD
Make sure you are logging into the right router

 

[YellowSnow]

There's something called QOS in your router and on your PC adapter network thing and it means Quality of Service.
Issues with this is that a lot of times idle Wifi devices will tell your router to allocate more bandwidth to the WiFi device rather than your PC.
A fix for this is to first disable QOS in your network adapter settings. Then disable it in your router/modem settings. This will stop Wifi devices from being prioritized over your PC.

is the name of it Qos Packet Scheduler? and how do I look at my router/modem settings?

Yes it's called QOS packet scheduler. Uncheck it. Also in your network adapter settings you can do the following for a slight boost:
Disable Flow Control, Interrupt Moderation, Wake up on Magic Packet, Wake up on ____, disable Shut Down Speeds, disable Energy Efficient Ethernet if you have any of those options.

To turn off QOS in your router I need to know your router/modem. But usually it's in configuration for WiFi or Performance and you can just uncheck it.

Most routers you can connect to by going to 192.168.0.1 or for linksys: 192.168.1.1 or for other router models you can google how to get into it. The username and passwords for the router is usually admin and password or admin admin or something, again available online.

It is still the same on both routers. The main router has an average of 148ms and the 2nd router having an average of 89ms. I am using command prompt to test my ping btw.

First disable QOS and hit Okay on your network adapter. Then go through and disable all the settings I said and hit okay again. Your network will reset quickly.
Did you get into your router?

Yes I was able to get into my router and I disabled QoS, I was only able to disable Flow Control, Interrupt Moderation and Wake up on Magic Packet. and QoS packet scheduler is disabled. Also the settings that I am altering on the router are on my main router, not the one that is plugged into my pc. Could that be it?

Well yes because the one thats plugged into your PC is the one your brother is connecting to causing you to have latency spikes right? xD
Make sure you are logging into the right router

Ok, so how would I connect to the extender? I put in this 192.168.0.1 and it brings me to the main one.

 

[Faike]

Can you provide the model of your router/extender/modem?

 

[YellowSnow]

Can you provide the model of your router/extender/modem?

WN2000RPTv2

 

[Faike]

To log in after initial set up:
1. On your computer, launch an Internet browser such as Mozilla Firefox or Microsoft
Internet Explorer.
2. In the address field of your browser, enter http://www.mywifiext.net. You are prompted to
enter a user name and password:
If you do not see the login prompt, make sure to include http:// when you type
http://www.mywifiext.net in your browser.
3. Type admin for the user name. The default password is password. NETGEAR
recommends that you set a more secure password after you log in

http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/WN2000RPT_UM_05MAR2012.pdf

 

[YellowSnow]

To log in after initial set up:
1. On your computer, launch an Internet browser such as Mozilla Firefox or Microsoft
Internet Explorer.
2. In the address field of your browser, enter http://www.mywifiext.net. You are prompted to
enter a user name and password:
If you do not see the login prompt, make sure to include http:// when you type
http://www.mywifiext.net in your browser.
3. Type admin for the user name. The default password is password. NETGEAR
recommends that you set a more secure password after you log in
I am logged in but I cannot find the QoS setting.
http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/WN2000RPT_UM_05MAR2012.pdf

I am logged in but I cannot find the QoS setting.

 

[Faike]

It might be under WMM.
You can also try logging on to the main router and disabling it there.
http://www.routerlogin.net.

 

[YellowSnow]

It might be under WMM.
You can also try logging on to the main router and disabling it there.
http://www.routerlogin.net.

Whats WMM? I am not seeing that. Also when I went on to routerlogin it gave me this "You are not connected to your Router’s WiFi network. To access routerlogin.net, your device must be connected to your Router’s WiFi network. Check your current connection and try again." Also I forgot to mention this, my ethernet even though its connected from my extender says that I am connected to my main router.

 

[Faike]

What is your main routers model

 

[YellowSnow]

What is your main routers model

C1100Z

 

[Faike]

https://internethelp.centurylink.com/internethelp/modem-c1100z-adv-qos.html
Follow the instructions but disable QOS instead.

 

[Faike]

Also I found this post about your router in particular with the same issue you had:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/45384-43-zyxel-pk5000z

 

[YellowSnow]

https://internethelp.centurylink.com/internethelp/modem-c1100z-adv-qos.html
Follow the instructions but disable QOS instead.

I did this already but it was for the main router. The extender is a completely different layout than the the main one.

 

[Faike]

https://internethelp.centurylink.com/internethelp/modem-c1100z-adv-qos.html
Follow the instructions but disable QOS instead.

I did this already but it was for the main router. The extender is a completely different layout than the the main one.

According to this thread your main router has a fake QOS set up so this might be why nothing is changing.
"bill001g said:
So far I can't find the manual for this router. From the little I can see like many routers this router only pretends to have QoS. All these routers work on the false assumption that you can control overloaded download traffic by controlling upload traffic.

You can place certain of your internal ip into groups and mark then high low etc.

So if you get a overload condition in your upload it will send high value traffic first. Generally this only works for people who are uploading a lot of data to other users.

Some more advanced routers let you put ip addresses into groups and then place limits on how much traffic they can download. This also only partially works. The key problem is that ISP is deciding which traffic to send and which to discard. Does you little good if they decide to drop your important traffic and send you the other traffic which you then drop trying to make room for the good traffic. You dropping the other traffic does not magically get the data back the ISP already threw away. This only reason this method partially works is dropping traffic causes errors for the app you do not like. This means while it is trying to recover from these errors you can get your important traffic though...until the errors are corrected and you have to drop more traffic to cause more errors.

I suspect you are wasting your time with the router you have"

You can try turning off QOS on your brother's PC as well or just simply ask him not to connect to the Wifi using his phone or something to help prevent spikes like this.

 

[YellowSnow]

https://internethelp.centurylink.com/internethelp/modem-c1100z-adv-qos.html
Follow the instructions but disable QOS instead.

I did this already but it was for the main router. The extender is a completely different layout than the the main one.

According to this thread your main router has a fake QOS set up so this might be why nothing is changing.
"bill001g said:
So far I can't find the manual for this router. From the little I can see like many routers this router only pretends to have QoS. All these routers work on the false assumption that you can control overloaded download traffic by controlling upload traffic.

You can place certain of your internal ip into groups and mark then high low etc.

So if you get a overload condition in your upload it will send high value traffic first. Generally this only works for people who are uploading a lot of data to other users.

Some more advanced routers let you put ip addresses into groups and then place limits on how much traffic they can download. This also only partially works. The key problem is that ISP is deciding which traffic to send and which to discard. Does you little good if they decide to drop your important traffic and send you the other traffic which you then drop trying to make room for the good traffic. You dropping the other traffic does not magically get the data back the ISP already threw away. This only reason this method partially works is dropping traffic causes errors for the app you do not like. This means while it is trying to recover from these errors you can get your important traffic though...until the errors are corrected and you have to drop more traffic to cause more errors.

I suspect you are wasting your time with the router you have"

You can try turning off QOS on your brother's PC as well or just simply ask him not to connect to the Wifi using his phone or something to help prevent spikes like this.

He is connected on his Xbox One though 🙁

 

[Faike]

Only suggestion I can provide after reading various forums about this particular router is that it's limited in what you can do and the only true way to resolve it may be to just change to a better router. Then you can remove your extender as well.
There's a huge manual I found and forums I read said that it really won't matter what settings you change anyway as the ISP will be throttling your network no matter what you try to do.

Sources: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/45384-43-zyxel-pk5000z
ftp://ftp2.zyxel.com/VSG1432-B101/user_guide/VSG1432-B101_1.1_ed1.pdf
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/help-with-qos-settings-two-routers.2162030/

 

[YellowSnow]

Only suggestion I can provide after reading various forums about this particular router is that it's limited in what you can do and the only true way to resolve it may be to just change to a better router. Then you can remove your extender as well.
There's a huge manual I found and forums I read said that it really won't matter what settings you change anyway as the ISP will be throttling your network no matter what you try to do.

Sources: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/45384-43-zyxel-pk5000z
ftp://ftp2.zyxel.com/VSG1432-B101/user_guide/VSG1432-B101_1.1_ed1.pdf
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/help-with-qos-settings-two-routers.2162030/

wouldn't I remove the router that's connected to my PC because there is no options for it? Not my main router?