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I've spent years working with CPAs and I still don't know enough to really invest. :) But thanks.. I bounce a lot of my stuff off two CPAs and investors.

Stateside, when you get a call from someone asking for a donation, a best practice is asking how much money actually goes to the cause. I was asked to donate $25 to a local fire department. Ok, only $2 goes to the FD, the rest went to overhead.
 
Am I? Not at all. It's my money so I'm going to educate myself to a comfortable point when investing it.

Realize that all your life you're taught many, many things. One thing you are never really taught about is money. You might have been told to save your money but no one ever explains why. You really are ill prepared to deal with financial situations when you enter the work force. This I believe is an underlying factor in why tuition for college/universities is on the rise - they're taking advantage of the ignorance of young adults.

I took accounting in high school and some in college. Otherwise I have been unexposed to any kind of investing outside of my own personal interest. No one teaches you this stuff or explains how to make your money work for you. I see this as a fundamental flaw in our education system.
 
Here ya go Dog - Things to wonder about when they happen since you had mentioned Crude Oil as something to watch.. and this is how politics affect the stock market.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2012/09/17/crude-oil-suffers-speedy-3-plunge/
 
There is a glut of oil in the world.

Pay down any high-interest debt you may be carrying. Select a value stock (such as a utility) with a decent dividend. Roll the dividends into new shares.

Utilities like to keep their stock-price affordable. If the price reaches a certain level, it will split ...

 
Bad investment. How high will they go compared to how far they can fall?

Look like First Solar, FSLR I think is the symbol. Look at how they were doing and what happened with them for reference. HGSI (Human Genome Sciences incorporated) did the same thing.. went way up, did great, and the FDA shut them down. They went under.. or at least off the market now.
 
APPL and FB would be horrible. APPL will go down without Steve Jobs running it. They're working off the fumes he left behind.

FB will be gone in a few years. I would say within 5 years it'll be off the market because shareprices are so low. Granted, there is no other active replacement for it right now, but I would suspect someone like Google would come up with something that would link everyone in another way. Many are likely watching to see how FB IPO and trending will affect their release.

Stay away from things you have a personal interest in. Invest in things that you're not a fan of so it stays strictly business. A few years ago Rush Limbaugh wanted to buy the St. Lous Rams. He hated the team, but it was strictly business. That's why he would have done well with it... he can make the hard choices.

You go with Apple or Facebook, you have some bias there and you'll end up hurting your decision making on it.
 
Oil is still a limited resource, despite the recent glut due to its being now economical to go after shale oil and deepsea drilling. So keep an eye on it during the next decade. I'd agree that if Israel goes after Iran, the Strait will be too risky for oil shipments until the US can degrade Iran's missile sites sufficiently - maybe a week tops would be my guess. The speculators will drive the price through the roof in the meantime however.

The downside is that this would happen without any prior warning and you'd miss out unless already invested. Shouldda gotten in a few months ago when crude was under $80 a barrel.

Another area to watch, a bit longer-term, is Japan vs. China. If they ratchet up their dispute over those resource-rich islands in the S. China sea, then both their economies might suffer and affect the remainder of the world.
 
Forgot to mention - starting a small business is pretty risky - something like 85% of them fail in the first year or two. It's also a lot of hard work - doing your research before startup and then running and managing the business after startup.

Case in point: My wife has wanted to own her own nail salon ever since we got married and she came to the USA from Vietnam, some 8 years ago. She has worked in various salons for those 8 years, learning the business from the inside, but not the management so much (typical in that industry). So we have been looking for the last 3-4 years for a good opportunity, now that salon prices are down thanks to the economy.

To make a long story shorter, we finally bought a salon near our home last May, that had a pretty good crew of nail techs and established customer base. Neither of us had any prior experience in running a small business, so I concentrated on getting a lawyer to prepare the purchase contract, etc and didn't spend enough time on other areas such as the credit card machine (rather essential for a business like salons as 2/3rds of the customers use charge or debit card transactions to pay). Consequently we're stuck in a 48 month rental agreement with Wells Fargo First Data Corp. paying $30 a month rental, when I could have bought the fancy-pants machine (has a quad-core processor and 32GB flash memory) for about 1/4th of the total rental cost (and we don't even own the machine at the end). Plus we're paying too much per transaction, over 2% total, so that amounts to around $600 a month right there. Using a lesser-known company we could have gotten in around 1.5% or maybe a bit less.

The salon is kinda old, although the prior owner updated the equipment and painted/carpeted it a couple months before we bought. All the plumbing is on one side of the shop, so some previous owner (Vietnamese) who wanted to install a facial/eyelash extension room had to put in a sink on the other side. So there was a jury-rigged bucket under the sink, with a pump connected to a wall switch, to pump out the bucket through a 3/4" pipe running up the wall, across the drop ceiling, to the bathroom drain pipe on the other side of the shop. People would forget to turn on the pump or else let the faucet drip, so occasionally there would be large puddles of water in the facial room. Anyway, I thought "Geez - why not just use a sump pump with a float valve to automagically empty the bucket". So I bought a Flotec sump pump (made in China) that the Home Depot guy said was a good, trouble-free brand. Turns out it featured a metal threaded shaft from the motor that screwed into a plastic impeller, no metal bushing used, so after 6 weeks of operation the shaft had screwed itself into the plastic far enough that the top of the impeller contacted the underside of the plastic housing, and then jammed solid. Typical Chinese crap - saved 2 cents on a bushing, nevermind the customer being out $130. The motor had a thermal breaker but not a current-operated breaker, so by the time my wife called me to complain the pump wasn't working, not only was there water all over the floor but the motor had practically boiled the bucket of water. We had bought a all-in-one washer/dryer that I rigged to also empty into the bucket, so the pump got used maybe 5-6 times a day.

There's other areas where we could have saved some money and/or grief had I had the time to do the homework in advance (I have my own professional career to mind, after all). For example, the salon has zero insulation above the drop ceiling, about 3 ft. below a flat metal red-painted roof, and this summer (hottest on record I think) my last 2 electric bills for the HVAC were well over $600 a month. So after working on the damn plumbing once again tomorrow (hopefully a permanent solution this time - I bought a made-in-the-USA Zoeller all-cast-iron sump pump that is expressly for washing machine effluent), I plan to either install batt insulation or more likely go the quick & dirty route and just use blown-in insulation above the drop ceiling.

Well sorry for the long anecdote, but the takeaway here is (1) do your homework as much as possible before starting a business, and (2) avoid buying crap from mainland China 😛. My wife, being Vietnamese, is quite familiar with Chinese products - comparatively low prices but poor quality or design.

Come to think of it, if I retire in the next 10 years I'll write a book on how not to run a nail salon business 😀.

Luckily despite all the problems the salon is pretty successful, and makes a decent amount of money now that most of our major expenses are done, but it also means my wife works there 7 days a week, and myself on call to rush from my office 25 miles away to take care of emergencies such as when our Comcrash cable modem and phone modem both quit working so that we couldn't take credit or debit card charges or phone appointments until the tech arrived the next day. Got them to replace both modems and now everything is fine, but they didn't like me shorting them on the rental by $75, which is about 1/10th of the lost business I figure. Told them that if they didn't like it, they can complain to my lawyer..

This winter we'll do some more renovation/painting/new signage and I plan to start advertising on FB, Groupon, Yelp, etc, maybe even start up a website since Comcast will host it for free. The previous owners were not too e-savvy and use traditional advertising in neighborhood flyers, etc. Nowadays a lot of people browse on their smartphones for services..
 


1. Pay off debt. You are paying way more in interest right now on any debt you have than you will earn on investments. Where else can you get a guaranteed rate of return of at least 4% on your money these days, and with most debt, more like 6-12%? (If you are under about 30, you likely have goddamn student loans at a MINIMUM of 6.8% and generally at 8.75%- pay that crap off as fast as you can!) That's what debtors are making off you in interest. Dave Ramsey had it right- debt == slavery.

2. Live below your means, because again, debt == slavery. If you feel that you are not keeping up with the Jonses, realize the Jonses are likely a only couple of missed paychecks away from getting foreclosed on and getting their toys repoed. The Great Recession should have shown that to anybody who was paying attention...

3. Put as much into tax-free stuff as you can like IRAs. Taxes on take something like a 20-40% bite out of your paycheck on average if you are one of the 53%. You will NOT get a 20-40% return on your money doing anything else remotely sane. Also realize that if you are over about 50, Social Security will be more than bankrupt and gone when you are ready to retire. Just assume that any Social Security payments taken out of your paycheck are simply additional taxes.

4. Marry well. Marry somebody fiscally prudent and who will not divorce you, take all your assets, and stick you with massive alimony payments. However, not getting married is less than ideal as two incomes and maybe 110-125% of a single person's living expenses leaves much more money left over at the end of the month. That is actually one of the first things Ben Stein mentions in his books. I strongly agree with this after seeing several of my co-workers having their testicles ripped out through their wallet in divorce proceedings and also how much some of my single coworkers struggle to pay off their massive student loan payments with only one income.

5. Don't buy individual stocks. Too risky, what you really want is to ride a big chunk of the market as the market in general will appreciate...but an individual stock can permanently tank. Mutual funds are not a bad idea for this.

6. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

7. Invest for the long term- have an outlook in decades rather than quarters as you are investing for your retirement. Put money in and DON'T mess with it.
 
5. Don't buy individual stocks. Too risky, what you really want is to ride a big chunk of the market as the market in general will appreciate...but an individual stock can permanently tank. Mutual funds are not a bad idea for this.

Good advice but I disagree with it. Do your research and invest some in individual stocks. Do your research first!

Balance your portfolio. If you're not working with much and want to grow it, sure a mutual fund is great. Investing in individual stocks can have hefty pay outs. If you do your research, you'll either break even (roughly) or make a profit.
 
One piece of advice I would give anybody thinking of investing. Don't invest if you can't afford to loose. And make it personal, know exactly what your getting in to.
 


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That's exactly the point. If you need the money, don't invest.
 
Watch Mad Money with Jim Cramer. He provides a ton of information, often many of the stock are expensive but at least you get an idea of the industries and how they're performing. Research research research will let you know what to invest in.
 

That may have been the Beardstown Ladies' Club, but they didn't day trade. And contrary to their own claims, they made most or all their money not from stock trading but from writing a bestselling book about themselves. However it was later discovered they were not market-beating investors but miscalculated their returns by including the money they added to their investments as part of the profits:

http://www.erictyson.com/articles/20090306_1#.UlkOtNLBKVo

Don't invest in anything just because strangers on the internet recommend it.

Jim Cramer has a poor track record. Search "Bear Stearns is fine," which he uttered a few weeks before Bear Stearns went bankrupt. Also look at his appearance on the Jon Stewart show soon afterward:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-march-12-2009/jim-cramer-extended-interview-pt--1