iPad Dominates Tablet Market, Google Nexus Increases Share

[rawoysters]

This is the most misleading, skewed chart I have ever seen put up on Tom's.

 

[Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer]

[citation][nom]ericburnby[/nom]Old-Fogie: Ah the old fall back. Claiming you don't have time to read up on a topic like analytics so you can therefore choose not to believe.[/citation]
Ah, the old fall back: "I can't be bothered to take the time to defend my assertion, but you can spend your own time proving that it's true."

Sorry, bro, but that's not how the world works. You made the claim, you back it up.

 

[mydrrin]

Wow .... Old Fogie. So you deny the study without knowing anything and without reasoning other than what you believe, and somehow we are suppose to believe you despite going against not only the author but other people that show how you have been wrong and you still have the balls to say thats how you world works. You must have not very many friends. Good luck with life.

He has shown how it is true....you back up your belief, you are going against both the author and multiple people on the forum. To give yourself any shred of credibility show something, really anything...please. Just trying to help you out bro.

 

[mydrrin]

Here is for wasting my time: Some alternative sources

Dec.5/2012 iPads 94% http://www.malphursinteractive.com/browser-device-web-traffic-market-share/ it even has sources.

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0&qpcustomd=1 doesn't breakdown mobile into tablets and phone

http://clicky.com/marketshare/global/web-browsers/mobile/ again doesn't breakdown mobile into tablets and phones

Here is one for tablets http://insights.chitika.com/2012/october-tablet-market-report/ it is per 100 iPad impressions.

For Tablets iPad is dominating. In phones it is still the most favoured with over 60% of the market. You can argue all you want about how you feel about things, but this is what is.

 

[killerclick]

There is no question that iPad is the most successful tablet model ever, without any serious competition.
iPad users buy more apps and surf more than Android users.
You can hate Apple all you want, 100 million iPads sold and the billions Apple is raking in on devices, apps and content cannot be denied.
In fact, while I absolutely love my Nexus 7, I'm buying an iPad Mini as soon as the "retina" model comes out. I don't want to be missing out on the best software ecosystem on the best engineered, highest quality device. So what if it's gonna be $50-$100 more expensive than the equivalent Android tablet, consumers are buying them so obviously it's worth it.

 

[becherovka]

[citation][nom]unksol[/nom]Not this again... Web traffic does not = market share. And everyone i have ever seen run Android immediately switches their browser to say its a desktop, not Android. Who wants s crummy mobile version of half a webpage?[/citation]
I want to thumbs up your post but cant its maxed out already. What happens if you use ipad/iphone mode? These stats are so useless if you cant produce accurate stats don't share them publicly!

 

[mydrrin]

Becherovka. So what does it mean?

Does it mean that iOS devices are used more for the purpose of web browsing?
Does it mean that iOS devices are dominating in a field that one would expect better results from Android?

I can use my iPhone and see non-mobile mode. So what does it mean that mobile browsing with both the browser (this doesn't change - the browser you are using is still the browser you are using even if it is in non-mobile mode) and the statistics still show what device they are using.

What does that mean that it shows the device they are using? Are they spoofing this too? All the kindle users decide to root and spoof their device to show as a Dell Inspiron? Seems a little bit of a stretch.

 

[Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer]

mydrrin, I never once said that iPad was not the most-often-used tablet for web surfing. Of course it is. What I did say was, since you can easily block ads on an Android tablet, where you can't on an iPad, Android tablets are necessarily going to be underrepresented in ad view statistics. I also opined that, since browsers like Mozilla and Dolphin can be made to masquerade as other browsers, they won't necessarily show up in page view statistics in general.

ericburnby claims that web analytics can see through such games and slurp up a whole mess of information about devices that are being used to surf the web. Instead of putting any effort into explaining how they're able to do that, he linked me to the homepage of Google Analytics and told me to figure it out for myself. That's not showing me "how it is true"; that's not showing me anything at all. He also claimed that Android tablets can't block ads, which, you know, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/android/addon/adblock-plus/

Now, it may be possible that he is right about the browser spoofing. I would have been happy to examine evidence supporting that claim. But I do know this; network traffic is network traffic. You can send out whatever data you want in a network packet. It is absolutely theoretically possible for a tablet to convince a server that it is a laptop if it sends the kind of data that a laptop would send. If mobile browsers don't do that, fine. But to imply that analytics are unspoofable is ridiculous.

 

[ericburnby]

[citation][nom]becherovka[/nom]I want to thumbs up your post but cant its maxed out already. What happens if you use ipad/iphone mode? These stats are so useless if you cant produce accurate stats don't share them publicly![/citation]

I guess you're as clueless as everyone else. As I've pointed out several times (and getting thumbed down by the idiots), that "trick" of changing your user agent DOES NOT WORK.

Companies spend billions of dollars every year for this kind of information. They then use the results of this data to improve their websites and content to properly target the types of visitors they get. They don't do this based on "flaky" or "inaccurate" stats.

The only reason you (or others) don't like these stats is because it puts Apple in a good light. You have NO FACTS to prove them wrong. Not one single person yet has posted anything to show the fault with these numbers or even a competitors study that shows a different result. Should be easy to do, right? Everyone knows Android users are the "tech savvy" ones who understand technology. So use those massive brains of yours and come up with some of your own data.

 

[ericburnby]

[citation][nom]Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer[/nom]I also opined that, since browsers like Mozilla and Dolphin can be made to masquerade as other browsers, they won't necessarily show up in page view statistics in general. ericburnby claims that web analytics can see through such games and slurp up a whole mess of information about devices that are being used to surf the web. Instead of putting any effort into explaining how they're able to do that, he linked me to the homepage of Google Analytics and told me to figure it out for myself. That's not showing me "how it is true"; that's not showing me anything at all. He also claimed that Android tablets can't block ads, which, you know, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/an [...] lock-plus/Now, it may be possible that he is right about the browser spoofing. I would have been happy to examine evidence supporting that claim. But I do know this; network traffic is network traffic. You can send out whatever data you want in a network packet. It is absolutely theoretically possible for a tablet to convince a server that it is a laptop if it sends the kind of data that a laptop would send. If mobile browsers don't do that, fine. But to imply that analytics are unspoofable is ridiculous.[/citation]

Old-Fogie: Boy your ignorance continues to amaze.

Why are you still talking about ads when other companies THAT DON'T USE ADS TO TRACK are coming up with similar 90% traffic for iPads? You keep ignoring this question even though I've asked it several times. What's the matter, don't have an answer?

I also never claimed Android couldn't block ads. Go on, quote my post where I claimed this. Now you're lying about what I said in addition to lying about your understanding of how data is gathered? Is that all you can do is lie?

If you had read how any good analytics software package works you'd realize how stupid you're making yourself look. Code runs on the device and queries it the EXACT SAME WAY an App queries it and sends the results back to the server. You think something as simple as changing a user agent is going to automatically alter the data this code gathers and sends back? It's going to change "ICS" to "JB"? It's going to change "API Level 9" to "API Level 12"? Maybe it will change "Galaxy Nexus" to "NMokia 920" or "Verizon" to "AT&T"?

Apps that use the SDK (and there are a LOT that do) can directly access information about your device and are capable of providing even more details (within reason, they can't get personal data as Android will limit what you can query in an App).

 

[izmanq]

Apple is desperate. trying to still look good

 

[tanjo]

@ericburnby: The thing you are talking about that isn't affected by useragent strings are in-App ads. Unfortunately for Android (or fortunately for us) in case of impressions, it has FREE Ad-blocking apps that blocks browser AND in-App ads. IOS does have, too but not FREE. I'm not saying iPad is not the top tablet but the #1 use for an iPad is games, which are mostly free but ad supported.

So ad servers will almost always get feeds from iPads but not all Androids when it's just a matter of installing Ad Block (free and no rooting required).

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]mydrrin[/nom]Here is for wasting my time: Some alternative sourcesDec.5/2012 iPads 94% http://www.malphursinteractive.com [...] ket-share/ it even has sources.http://marketshare.hitslink.com/br [...] pcustomd=1 doesn't breakdown mobile into tablets and phonehttp://clicky.com/marketshare/glob [...] rs/mobile/ again doesn't breakdown mobile into tablets and phonesHere is one for tablets http://insights.chitika.com/2012/o [...] et-report/ it is per 100 iPad impressions.For Tablets iPad is dominating. In phones it is still the most favoured with over 60% of the market. You can argue all you want about how you feel about things, but this is what is.[/citation]
First browser market share doesn't equate into smartphone market share.

Also statistics of browser maket share are quite unreliable.

http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_browser-ww-monthly-201104-201208

 

[mydrrin]

I think I stated the ones with a general mobile breakdown. I defined the tablet ones and the ones with a general mobile breakdown. We were talking about tablets.

Android has a 75% marketshare in the latest breakdown of units sold. Yet one would expect a better showing from them with iOS having a 60-70% marketshare of browsers used. Does that say Android isn't being used for browsing much? It says something.

 

[jkendt1989]

Always enjoy these type of articles for a good laugh. I guessed who wrote this by the title of the article. I was not disappointed...

How does the owner of a tech site allow this? Is this even a news article or "thoughts" on what the statistics are?

 

[mydrrin]

[citation][nom]jkendt1989[/nom]Always enjoy these type of articles for a good laugh. I guessed who wrote this by the title of the article. I was not disappointed... How does the owner of a tech site allow this? Is this even a news article or "thoughts" on what the statistics are?[/citation]

Please enlighten us the methodology and sources you would use that would be 100% spoof proof? Yeah thought so. Thanks for coming out and showing us your ignorance.

 

[Compulsive1]

I don't believe it for a second. That's some skillful statistics. The number of people I know who own an iOS device and who own an Android device is about even with the Android trending up fast. I don't think my circle is an outlier. When the rest of the world is taken in account Android devices kill Apple product. The variety and the price point is simply overwhelming.
Maybe iOS uses more data then it's needed to artificially boost their stats?

 

[halcyon]

Help me to understand why it is so important to you guys that iOS usage be greater than Android usage or vice versa. Some folks prefer iOS...just like some folks like liver and onions. Why is it important to you that one be seen as better, or more popular, or in higher-use. Everyone doesn't like liver...some people like Jelly Beans and Ice Cream Sandwiches. Some will like both but at different times.

So what?

As long as folks can choose what they want, when they want, who cares what some esoteric number says? What am I missing here?

 

[rdc85]

I had some concern here ...

for news it slower than my native languge newspaper (online version in some developing country)....
Even they had the same content, same source...

What I'm cannot understand is how easy the article/news go out without any crosscheck or the writer do a review/opinion (cannot find the appropriate words) of it source material...

If it my newspaper, it understandable.... (people here much uninformed)
but for tech site like tom's.....

The choise of headline words give me an impression the the writer is being lazy... (just copy paste thing)

just my 2c...

 

[CrArC]

[citation][nom]killerclick[/nom]There is no question that iPad is the most successful tablet model ever, without any serious competition. iPad users buy more apps and surf more than Android users.You can hate Apple all you want, 100 million iPads sold and the billions Apple is raking in on devices, apps and content cannot be denied.In fact, while I absolutely love my Nexus 7, I'm buying an iPad Mini as soon as the "retina" model comes out. I don't want to be missing out on the best software ecosystem on the best engineered, highest quality device. So what if it's gonna be $50-$100 more expensive than the equivalent Android tablet, consumers are buying them so obviously it's worth it.[/citation]I avoid i-Things for various simple reasons (they're just not useful/configurable enough for me, I don't like the GUI, I don't like the ecosystem, etc) but I must admit, I saw an iPad Mini in the store the other day and it was very tempting. It's the screen aspect ratio - I genuinely believe 4:3 works better in a tablet device, for web browsing and such. My Nexus, Galaxy Tabs, etc all use a 'wider' ratio which isn't as effective unless you're watching movies (where it's great - but how often do you do that compared to browsing the web?).

Consumers don't buy things because they're worth it, though. Just sayin'.