Question Is 24H2 fixed?

punkncat

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I am aware there was a hold on the rollout for this with issues like EasyAntiCheat causing problems, printers being lost on the network and so on. It just came available for my gaming rig and I find myself a bit hesitant. Since it finally dropped down, am I to assume it is now "good"?
 

punkncat

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Well, have to take it back.

After installing this version to the system I expected the least trouble out of, I had trouble. My work PC.

System has an 11400, which uses the UHD730 graphics. Once the update completes the driver version swaps to Xe/Arc version and the display goes absolutely nuts. Even after reverting back I cannot get that system (which I am on now) to see the monitor as 144hz, which it had no issue with before. Tried using the Intel driver/support tool and reverting back to base level. Actually deleting the graphics driver for a moment did away with the artifacts but it would invariably update and start doing so again.

All of the other 11th gen I have on hand are on discrete graphics and also on the higher level of the UHD graphics version.
 

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I don't think it's Windows' fault, if you can find another processor and try it, I think the problem would be solved (I think it's a processor issue)
Who is the otherboard?
 

punkncat

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Z590i Unify. 11400 installed right now, had a 10105 and an 11600K in this mobo at one point or another. The last swap up from the 105 to the 400 caused my activation to go out, so I really think I would rather "cheap graphics card" it than risk that $150+ again. (Pro version so I can local remote in)
 

punkncat

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So, I think this boils down in part to something with C++

"Microsoft Visual C++ 2022 X86 Minimum Runtime" (also the X64 version) will not install. It keeps telling me a network resource isn't available.

I went in and uninstalled the versions showing in Control Panel and downloaded the newest ones from MS and they keep saying something about an "older version not being able to be uninstalled contact technical support".

Intel Driver and Assist won't run without it.
Adobe won't run without it which is about half my workload....not really sure where to go on this issue.
 

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So, I think this boils down in part to something with C++

"Microsoft Visual C++ 2022 X86 Minimum Runtime" (also the X64 version) will not install. It keeps telling me a network resource isn't available.

I went in and uninstalled the versions showing in Control Panel and downloaded the newest ones from MS and they keep saying something about an "older version not being able to be uninstalled contact technical support".

Intel Driver and Assist won't run without it.
Adobe won't run without it which is about half my workload....not really sure where to go on this issue.

If you haven't, try running DISM and SFC to deal with any corrupted Windows files. You will need to download the latest Windows ISO for the version you are running.

1. Mount the .ISO file by double clicking on it.

2. Open 'Windows Powershell' or 'Command Prompt' with Admin privileges (right click -> Run as Administrator)

3. Let's check the System Health first, by running these commands:

3.1 dism /online /cleanup-image /scanhealth

3.2 dism /online /cleanup-image /checkhealth

3.3 dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

4. I'm sure that 3.3 will give you an error stating that it could not perform the task. And now it's when the mounted ISO comes into play. Let's specify the file from the ISO so that we can fix it. Run the following command: (Notice that X must be the drive letter on which your system has mounted the ISO)

4.1 DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth /source:WIM:X:\Sources\Install.wim:1 /LimitAccess

5. Now let's repair any damage in the system files, shall we?

5.1 sfc /scannow


My addtional recommendations before attempting a reinstall:

I would try the command line, this can take care of elevation issues that occasionally hang up MSI installers.

msiexec.exe /a "package name" for an administrative install. Run this from an elevated command prompt with each of your redistributables. Additionally, I would go ahead and grab the latest of each C++ redist you have installed and put this in too, it has solved many problems for me in the past with systems that had a wide range of applications.

You may want to try this from safe mode so that no running applications are keeping the code to themselves or triggering an MSI refresh.

You might need to go into the registry and find the entries for the redistributable installers and manually remove them. Any vestiges of the old version may be triggering the installer of the new one to prompt that message and refuse to install. Could be as simple as the uninstall folders under CurrentVersion under Microsoft/Windows.
 

punkncat

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It is a clean install. For the most part and since the latest of the BIOS updates last year this machine has been fairly dependable. This update seemed to go well and worked while I was on Remote Desktop. I was sitting here last night building up a 'new' system of some used parts and decided to go look something up on the work PC and discovered the Andy Warhol effect ongoing. Went in and rolled back the update, mostly seemed fine aside from the inability to run the proper framerate. Tried different cables, different inputs, and the laptop just make sure it wasn't monitor or cable related.

Right now the PC seems to be working fine aside from this C++ error and the fact that it can no longer be set to the proper framerate. I consider here that SFC/DISM is unlikely to help since C++ is an add on program.
I am about to attempt to run the update again in the hopes that it will take. If not, probably will blow it out and start over which also blows out a day of pay.
 

Eximo

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Not always. Sometimes it creeps in from MS as part of Windows. Drivers and related apps sometimes dump them in too. Might be worth grabbing the latest versions of things while you are at it. But I agree for the most part that DISM and SFC aren't likely to help.

The weirdest issue I had recently was with the Visual Studio installer getting borked because it was trying to go to Unreal.com to grab files, it got blocked, and the installer just couldn't deal with that. Rolled everything it installed back off and ending up doing nasty things to C++ redistributables.
 

punkncat

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Awright, so the moment it loads in those new drivers for the iGPU the Warhol starts. I am currently on the desktop without a driver (so to speak), but here in a moment it will automatically put it back in. Gonna try a few quick things if it will let me. Got to check the C++, but still can't pick proper refresh rate with or without the driver.
 

punkncat

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DISM doesn't find anything to repair and SFC shows everything good. Still cannot reinstall those C++ packages as it keeps kicking back to cannot find resource or cannot uninstall old version.

I am going to dig in a little bit online to see what I have to go through for those registry entries and decide if I want to do that or just blow this out to a clean install and put everything back together.
 

punkncat

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Well, got the system back up and running. Used the previous 23 load. I didn't use the backup in place as I didn't think it would be free of the issue. I would say the only aspect of it I found to be a bit irritating is that MS is getting really funny about the activation key. It seems like once you had the system activated, registered to your MS account that all was good. Now they like to pretend like there is no key, so they cannot activate.

I am going to redo my old "spreadsheet" and get all my keys straightened back out and in there. This crud previously cost me $ on this same system pulling the same exact thing and I wasn't 110% sure which key it was.
 

punkncat

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Well, here we go again.

After all that Windows is basically stuffing this update down my throat again. Fresh and untouched backup image made as a one time so it cannot immediately re-image and ruin that spot in time. I really hope I don't have to go through all this mess again.
 

punkncat

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And I just upgraded my main system to 24H2.
No reinstall needed.

Surface laptop, in progress.

I assume it was just a fluke, that something had bugged out on the install for that PC. The two I was worried about did fine. The one I was talking about building with the used 3600 updated today, did fine. The only lasting issue I am seeing is that the PC in question still will not see the actual refresh rate of the monitor. It is giving me stuff like 59.65, then there are three listings with an "*" beside them, also fractional, and the top refresh rate is 120.
 

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I assume it was just a fluke, that something had bugged out on the install for that PC. The two I was worried about did fine. The one I was talking about building with the used 3600 updated today, did fine. The only lasting issue I am seeing is that the PC in question still will not see the actual refresh rate of the monitor. It is giving me stuff like 59.65, then there are three listings with an "*" beside them, also fractional, and the top refresh rate is 120.
Are you using Plug n' Play drivers or device specific ones for your display?