Question is it me or my gpu its slighty crooked?

[DiegoGG]

https://imgur.com/a/NBEr40y

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https://imgur.com/a/EXdayxb

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The fisrt image is how my msi 4060 ventus oc looks without a support and the second picture is with a support

is it me or with a support the card still sags in the centre and the right part next to the pcie cable its slighty lifted up?

Does it look like the shroud its built like this or is my card weirdly crooked?
Maybe someone with the same card could help

 

[Eximo]

1) Clean your computer
2) I'm pretty sure you are missing some motherboard screws.
2a) That likely means your motherboard isn't in there straight
3) I believe that is a plastic backplate on the GPU, it appears to have a curve in it. You could potentially fix that by unscrewing the backplate and letting it relax. (May also be a good time to do thermal paste on the GPU)
4) When you install a card, motherboard, and the chassis is strong enough, GPU support should not be needed on such a short card.

Basically, I think you need to take the whole thing apart to get it straight.

 

[Lutfij]

To rule out an optical illusion due to your lens and perspective, use a straight edged steel ruler and hold it against the to edge of your GPU's backplate. If the card deviates, then you know it's sagging for sure.

The telescopic support you got for your GPU, does it extend any further?

 

[helpstar]

it´s a common thing with such big cards, that it will slightly bend. Nothing abnormal and usually nothing to worry about, if temps are good

 

[Eximo]

it´s a common thing with such big cards, that it will slightly bend. Nothing abnormal and usually nothing to worry about, if temps are good

Except it isn't a big card, I have a feeling it is a lack of motherboard support that is the main issue here. If the motherboard is trying its hardest to rest on the chassis basement, it will have pulled the card down.

 

[helpstar]

Except it isn't a big card,...

well, it´s about 546 g, and about 19,9cm long. Might be big enough
Is the PCIe slot still in place anymore?
if it was pulled without pushing the release mechanism, it could be misaligned afterwards

 

[Eximo]

I'm mostly looking at the bottom middle ATX screw. If that isn't a dust bunny, then the hole is nowhere near close to being lined up. Zero screws across the middle of the board, so nothing stopping the board from flexing out under the weight of the GPU either.

 

[SyCoREAPER]

Super crooked

 

[DiegoGG]

To rule out an optical illusion due to your lens and perspective, use a straight edged steel ruler and hold it against the to edge of your GPU's backplate. If the card deviates, then you know it's sagging for sure.

The telescopic support you got for your GPU, does it extend any further?

Yes i can lift It up even more. Also some people are saying that in missing mobo screws Is It right?

 

[DiegoGG]

well, it´s about 546 g, and about 19,9cm long. Might be big enough
Is the PCIe slot still in place anymore?
if it was pulled without pushing the release mechanism, it could be misaligned afterwards

The card was seated correctly and the screws aligned with the case

 

[Eximo]

In your picture I see one motherboard screw in the bottom left. I assume there is another in the bottom right. There are three screw holes across the middle of the board, all empty. Now many chassis have the center hole being a post and not a normal standoff, but I am not certain what chassis you have.

Standard ATX board will have 9 screws to hold it to the motherboard tray.

 

[Phaaze88]

https://imgur.com/a/16poV6N

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Missing screws.

 

[DiegoGG]

In your picture I see one motherboard screw in the bottom left. I assume there is another in the bottom right. There are three screw holes across the middle of the board, all empty. Now many chassis have the center hole being a post and not a normal standoff, but I am not certain what chassis you have.

Standard ATX board will have 9 screws to hold it to the motherboard tray.

the mobo is a z490 a pro and the case is a nzxt h510 2019 version

 

[DiegoGG]

https://imgur.com/a/16poV6N

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Missing screws.

so bascialy i need to take the all gpu out and put those screws and the sag wil fix by itself?
Also do you think that i have damaged the mobo or gpu?
The pc has been like this for more that 3 years but with a lighther 1050ti. this gpu has been like this fro almost one year

 

[Eximo]

Nothing wrong with it, if you want to fix the sag as much as possible I would do the following.

Remove the GPU
Unscrew the motherboard so that it is loose
Reinsert the GPU and line it up so that it is square to the case, or even slightly the opposite direction of the current sag.
Then reinstall all of the motherboard screws. Those middle ones being the most important, since that is where your GPU puts the most weight.
Then screw down the GPU.

Done properly you can get sag to barely noticeable.

 

[SyCoREAPER]

Nothing wrong with it, if you want to fix the sag as much as possible I would do the following.

Remove the GPU
Unscrew the motherboard so that it is loose
Reinsert the GPU and line it up so that it is square to the case, or even slightly the opposite direction of the current sag.
Then reinstall all of the motherboard screws. Those middle ones being the most important, since that is where your GPU puts the most weight.
Then screw down the GPU.

Done properly you can get sag to barely noticeable.

Agreed.

Being on my tablet I can see better. That GPU PCB is stressed A LOT.
I honestly wouldn't even reinstall the GPU right away. Let it settle. Any number of components could be stressed right now and stressing them immediately to neutral from the state they've been in could break a joint, solder ball or worst of all a trace.

 

[DiegoGG]

1) Clean your computer
2) I'm pretty sure you are missing some motherboard screws.
2a) That likely means your motherboard isn't in there straight
3) I believe that is a plastic backplate on the GPU, it appears to have a curve in it. You could potentially fix that by unscrewing the backplate and letting it relax. (May also be a good time to do thermal paste on the GPU)
4) When you install a card, motherboard, and the chassis is strong enough, GPU support should not be needed on such a short card.

Basically, I think you need to take the whole thing apart to get it straight.

Agreed.

Being on my tablet I can see better. That GPU PCB is stressed A LOT.
I honestly wouldn't even reinstall the GPU right away. Let it settle. Any number of components could be stressed right now and stressing them immediately to neutral from the state they've been in could break a joint, solder ball or worst of all a trace.

The GPU was sagging the mobo wasnt misaligned. Changing the pcie screw fixed It, its perfectly straight now (One screws was bad). Do you think its safe that i reinstall the GPU? Also MSI manual says tò install 4 screws in the mobo and i dont have the same type of screws that goes in the mobo

 

[SyCoREAPER]

The GPU was sagging the mobo wasnt misaligned. Changing the pcie screw fixed It, its perfectly straight now. Do you think its safe that i reinstall the GPU? Also MSI manual says tò install 4 screws in the mobo and i dont have the same type of screws that goes in the mobo

I can only tell you my conservative approach, others will likely disagree. Put it somewhere warm like in a window sill for a day and let it sit overnight. The small amount of warmth from the sun won't do much outside allow fractions of a millimeter of expansion.

I say wait overnight. Others will say it's unnecessary. It's your call though.

 

[DiegoGG]

I dont have time for that and the GPU as Always been the entire time with a GPU support bracket almost leveled not like that sagging picture you see.

Now that Im sure It wansnt being forced in a strange way and It was a Natural sag it seems kinda useless tbh, expecially since It has a support? Am i wrong?

I could understand if i let It sag freely but i had a support

 

[SyCoREAPER]

Do what you want. You asked for my opinion, I gave it.

That's not how thermal cycling nor lateral stress work.

Good luck.

 

[DiegoGG]

Do what you want. You asked for my opinion, I gave it.

That's not how thermal cycling nor lateral stress work.

Good luck.

Just wanted too know how that's possibly since the change its little since i had the support and its not forced it was Natural sag because of a bad screw.

Anyway the GPU seems tò work now. Do you think there might issues?