[SOLVED] Is it worth building a pc now ???

[FatatSteel]

So i am thinking of building my first gaming PC, I've got about 1100 to spend not including peripherals and i aim to play MW, BFV, and Metro and any future games. Is now the best time to buy something like a 9600k and a 2070 super or 2060 super? I know the new one are coming out but dont know when. What is your opinion should i wait for the new 3000 series Nvidia gpus and the tiger lake cpu's or is that not worth it.

 

[mdd1963]

Do you think intels is worth the wait, and amd too? Or should i get a rtx 2070 or 2060 and pair it with a ryzen cpu? idk how long it will take for the new ones to come out and i was planning on buying a setup now and selling the parts i would upgrade later on.

The 5700XT costs as much as the 2060 Super, but, outperforms both...and should be great for 1080P or 1440P, IMO...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Q8TVmzHI8&t=182s

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK_Ue4d9CpE

 

[boju]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($314.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($112.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1097.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-26 04:31 EDT-0400

Think that'll be pretty close.

Samsung NVME for OS drive. Board takes one Nvme drive. Sata drives are still decent.

 

[FatatSteel]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($314.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($112.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1097.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-26 04:31 EDT-0400

Think that'll be pretty close.

Samsung NVME for OS drive. Board takes one Nvme drive. Sata drives are still decent.

Omg thank you so much dude, i really appreciate it. I am going to look over it and see if there are any parts locally cheaper or i might change some parts but thank you so much. Have a great day dude

 

[boju]

No problem, hope you get what you want. Enjoy!

 

[EndEffeKt_24]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($314.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($112.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1097.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-26 04:31 EDT-0400

Think that'll be pretty close.

Samsung NVME for OS drive. Board takes one Nvme drive. Sata drives are still decent.

I am d'accord with most of the build, but imho a Samsung 970 evo plus is unwisely spend money in a budget build like this. 80 dollar go a long way in upgrading the gpu or getting a really good air cooler. For that money even an upgrade to a 2 tb mx500 is in reach.
You could also save some bucks on the ram

 

[boju]

Im open to criticism. Edit the build and see what you can come up with 🙂

 

[EndEffeKt_24]

This would be my take:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8snT3t

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($174.15 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card ($439.00 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.99 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($112.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1135.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-26 11:33 EDT-0400

You could save some bucks on the case if you want to, but I think the Meshify C is solid. The cheaper Ram and storage allow for an upgrade to a 2060 super with a decend cooler design. My personal pick would be a 5700xt, but since you asked for an Nvidia card, this is it.

 

[FatatSteel]

This would be my take:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8snT3t

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($174.15 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card ($439.00 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.99 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($112.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1135.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-26 11:33 EDT-0400

You could save some bucks on the case if you want to, but I think the Meshify C is solid. The cheaper Ram and storage allow for an upgrade to a 2060 super with a decend cooler design. My personal pick would be a 5700xt, but since you asked for an Nvidia card, this is it.

Thank you very much, i will look over it and see if there are any local cheaper deals and go from there. I appreciate it. But do you think a build like this is worth it rn with everything going on and new parts coming out later this year? I would like to get your oppinion.

 

[FatatSteel]

Im open to criticism. Edit the build and see what you can come up with 🙂

Thank you very much, i will look over it and see if there are any local cheaper deals and go from there. I appreciate it. But do you think a build like this is worth it rn with everything going on and new parts coming out later this year? I would like to get your oppinion.

 

[EndEffeKt_24]

In my opinion the problem with potentially better parts looming on the horizon is a never ending story. Once you are finishdd waiting for Ryzen 4000, you can start waiting for Intel 11 gen, Nvidia 3000, big Navi and then Ryzen 5000.
At one point in time you want to build the machine and there will be new tech coming still.
Another problem is availability of new parts. Even if launched in Q3 2020 you might not get your hand on a R7 4800x until January 2021.
My opinion on this is as subjective as the next mans on this, but I would only wait on new tech if I knew it is coming in the next month.

 

[FatatSteel]

In my opinion the problem with potentially better parts looming on the horizon is a never ending story. Once you are finishdd waiting for Ryzen 4000, you can start waiting for Intel 11 gen, Nvidia 3000, big Navi and then Ryzen 5000.
At one point in time you want to build the machine and there will be new tech coming still.
Another problem is availability of new parts. Even if launched in Q3 2020 you might not get your hand on a R7 4800x until January 2021.
My opinion on this is as subjective as the next mans on this, but I would only wait on new tech if I knew it is coming in the next month.

ah ok and we only know that benchmarks are coming in the end of may so i think i should build it now before prices get gouged even more than they are now. Thank for your oppinion.

 

[FatatSteel]

This would be my take:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8snT3t

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($174.15 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card ($439.00 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.99 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($112.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1135.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-26 11:33 EDT-0400

You could save some bucks on the case if you want to, but I think the Meshify C is solid. The cheaper Ram and storage allow for an upgrade to a 2060 super with a decend cooler design. My personal pick would be a 5700xt, but since you asked for an Nvidia card, this is it.

how come u chose the 3600 and the 3600x or an intel 9600k or something close ? BEcause the 3600x is only 26 dollars more expensive.

 

[FatatSteel]

Im open to criticism. Edit the build and see what you can come up with 🙂

how come u chose the 3600 and the 3600x or an intel 9600k or something close ? BEcause the 3600x is only 26 dollars more expensive.

 

[boju]

This should answer your question.

Ryzen 5 3600 vs. 3600X: Which should you buy?

We were among the first to review the Ryzen 5 3600 and at $200 we found the 6-core, 12-thread processor a crankin' good deal. In short, it...

www.techspot.com

Both overclock similar. 3600x comes with a better cooler but if plan to use aftermarket cooling in future, this wouldn't matter really.

If 9600k had HT, it would be a different story.

 

[FatatSteel]

This should answer your question.

Ryzen 5 3600 vs. 3600X: Which should you buy?

We were among the first to review the Ryzen 5 3600 and at $200 we found the 6-core, 12-thread processor a crankin' good deal. In short, it...

www.techspot.com

Both overclock similar. 3600x comes with a better cooler but if plan to use aftermarket cooling in future, this wouldn't matter really.

If 9600k had HT, it would be a different story.

Ah ok, would you mind looking at my newest post/question and giving your advice, i redid the build a little and I'm worried how it says i might need another cpu to to update the bios on my b450 mobo, thanks

 

[boju]

Which question? About 3600 vs 3600x or if it's worth buying now?

Which motherboard are you referring to about needing an earlier gen cpu to update bios?

 

[FatatSteel]

Which question? About 3600 vs 3600x or if it's worth buying now?

Which motherboard are you referring to about needing an earlier gen cpu to update bios?

Which question? About 3600 vs 3600x or if it's worth buying now?

Which motherboard are you referring to about needing an earlier gen cpu to update bios?

Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard because PC partpicker says this board will need a 1st or 2nd gen ryzen cpu but someone said that the max board from msu are shipped with the update but idk and i decided to go with the 3600 as its better bang for your buck

 

[boju]

VRM on the Tomahawk Max is second to none as previously mentioned and Msi re-released B450's under the Max banner containing 3rd gen bios. All other's will depend when the product was released from the manufacturer. If it's old stock then a 1st/2nd gen processor will be needed to update.

You'd have to talk to the seller and see if there's a sticker on the box or motherboard itself indicating 3rd gen ready or bios version.

PCPP also warns about the Tomahawk Max being compatible. This site isn't always correct, covering their own bum.

 

[FatatSteel]

VRM on the Tomahawk Max is second to none as previously mentioned and Msi re-released B450's under the Max banner containing 3rd gen bios. All other's will depend when the product was released from the manufacturer. If it's old stock then a 1st/2nd gen processor will be needed to update.

You'd have to talk to the seller and see if there's a sticker on the box or motherboard itself indicating 3rd gen ready or bios version.

PCPP also warns about the Tomahawk Max being compatible. This site isn't always correct, covering their own bum.

Can you explain the first part of your response please, i am relatively new to the specifics of mobo, can u give me a b450 mobo id be safe with so i don't have to update the bios or a x570 mobo

 

[boju]

Voltage regulator modules and quality in power distribution between components on the motherboard. Means for better stability at higher power states, ie overclocking.

Msi Tomahawk Max is the safest best choice motherboard.