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I wanna run everything in 4K and have this last a long time. BTW I plan on crossfiring GPU soon.

PARTS:

CPU: AMD Fx- 9590

GPU: Sapphire Radeon R9 290x Tri-X

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990Fx-UDA3 ATX AM3

RAM: Kingston Savage 1 x 8 GB

CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X31

Storage: Kingston SDNow V300 Series 120 GB 2.5'' and Seagate Barricuda 3TB 3.5''

Case: NZXT Phantom Red 530 ATX Full

Power Supply: CoolMax 1000 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

Optical Drive: ASUS DRW-24B1ST

OS: Windows 8.1 (OEM)

Wireless Adapter: TP-Link TL- WDN4800 802.11


Total Price: $1356.06
 
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DasHotShot
Your PC is ok.

Single stick Ram vs dual channel 2x4gb is not great, but not terrible. Always go for pairs.

Your PSU could run almost 2 of your system....You only need a 550-600w PSU.

It can run all games 1080p, it can't run nuclear simulation tests or 4k well. that is all

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Your PC is ok.

Single stick Ram vs dual channel 2x4gb is not great, but not terrible. Always go for pairs.

Your PSU could run almost 2 of your system....You only need a 550-600w PSU.

It can run all games 1080p, it can't run nuclear simulation tests or 4k well. that is all

 
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This build is way faster for less money. 2 970s will run 4k with most games maxed.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($138.23 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($51.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($81.90 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (Red) ATX Full Tower Case ($118.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($62.00 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($38.84 @ Amazon)
Total: $1230.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-26 11:01 EDT-0400
 
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Now that I saw the 4k requirement...

You will want to wait 3 weeks when the new 390x is released and the 980 ti is released.

These will bring higher prerformance and drive prices on 290's etc down.

Worth sitting tight right now till Computex and E3
 
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No! Do not buy that PC! Also not the one suggested by mrhippo, there are a few issues with that.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.50 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-AR ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ ARC 100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($81.90 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($339.99 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX XTR 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($115.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.00 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($38.84 @ Amazon)
Total: $1262.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-26 11:12 EDT-0400

This will perform very well at 1080p, maxing out every game you will find. However, to run 4K then you should definitely SLI the GTX 970s. I've included a power supply with sufficient wattage, which is much higher quality than the CX750M.

The FX-9590 is a ridiculous chip, it's nothing more than an FX-8350 with a huge overclock, for a large sum of money. It's worse than the i5 4690K for gaming.

Woody
 
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2x 970 will not max out most games, @4k. @ 4k resolution, The 290, or 290x, is a better choice. I would probably choose the 290, as the performance isn't much different than the 290x, but is a bit cheaper. The smaller memory bus, and the 3.5gb ram issue limits its 4k capability. It is a great choice for 1440p, though.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_980_sli_review,22.html





OP, I do not agree with your system build choices. FX 9590 is not worth the cost, and coolmax PSU's are junk. Your ram should be in a 2x4gb configuration. I only would do a single stick in a board that has only 2 mem slots.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($325.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.50 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($122.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($81.90 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($272.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (Red) ATX Full Tower Case ($118.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.88 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1329.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-26 11:22 EDT-0400
 
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2 970s is almost equivalent to a single Titan X you would be getting more then 3000 CUDA cores combined. And yes you will be able to run at 4k res.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/geforce-gtx-970-sli-review,22.html
The RAM issue should never be factored over the performance of the card, please consider not being ignorant when it comes to this.
 
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I agree with DasHotShot. The 390X with it's HBM will be much more suited to 4K gaming than the current GDDR5 cards, due to the increased bandwidth. Beware, OP, that it will retail around $900 when it comes out, it might be worth waiting an extra month or two.

Woody
 
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$900?!?!?! Really?

I never heard about that rumour.

Who will pay $900 for a single GPU Radeon card?
 
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The same group of people who get a Titan X....
 
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I think preqcisely those people won't get one.

Would you rather trust AMD or Nvidia with $900?

I know who I would...despite recent scandals.
 
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Neither tbh.
 
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4K:

You should almost NEVER run a game at 4K resolution. It's fine to run a 4K desktop but for a demanding game it's usually, excuse the expression, a stupid upidly upid idea.

Some facts on 4K gaming:

1. 4K (2160p) looks nearly IDENTICAL to 1440p for most games.

2. 4K gets roughly 55% the frame rate as 1440p

3. Crossfire or SLI rarely scales perfectly so even when it's supported you usually need to buy a 2nd card and even then you wouldn't get the same frate typically as you'd get with a SINGLE card at 1440p.

Put another way you might spend $400USD extra for a second card, then get 50FPS instead of 60FPS and not even see the difference (more cost lower frame rate). Not saying it ALWAYS pans out this way but I sure can't tell the difference in many games and the ones I can I find it's insignificant.

4. Crossfire/SLI tends to have more stutter on average.

5. Not all games support it, or have stutter or OTHER issues (flickering etc)

6. Even the FX-9590 can be a CPU bottleneck in some games and running Crossfire of two high-end cards will increase the likelihood of a CPU bottleneck.

SUMMARY:
*Long story short, running 4K on a desktop is fine, but you really should run most games no higher than 2560x1440 or else you're often sacrificing money, noise, stutter or something else all for an arguably imperceptable difference in game sharpness.

CPU to build?
Comes down to BUDGET (including MONITOR apparently) but as suggested:
a) WAIT slightly to see about GTX980Ti 6GB and R9-390X cards
b) INTEL for sure (i5-4690K or i7-4790K)
c) MONITOR?
Frankly, I really WANT to suggest G-Sync as the core technology is awesome however I've been doing extensive research and it looks like gutting the monitors comes at the expense of monitor video processing. Issues with color/artifacts nor related to panel type. Probably due to raw video signal getting to monitor but not being further processed (minimal lag yes, but then quality issues).

As for "4K" I'd also keep and open mind and choose a 2560x1440 monitor instead of the overall quality is better or price is lower for same quality. Yes, 1440p is noticeably better than 4K but there's a diminishing return especially if you plan to GAME at 4K which again is usually a stupid idea. I'll repeat in case I'm not clear... you can BUY a 4K monitor however you don't have to GAME at 4K (in fact 1080p may even make the most sense for demanding games depending on GPU).

Finally, I'd avoid the GTX970. I still recommend it to people but the slow memory will cause stutter in some cases. Unless there's a workaround this will be the case more often as games tend to saturate more of that 4GB of VRAM. Unfortunately the GTX980 is significantly more expensive.

In general:
- avoid AMD CPU's for high-end gaming,
- avoid multi-GPU if possible (smoothness and universal support over frame rate), and
- game at 1440p not 4K.
- investigate G-Sync but only buy if you SEE the actual monitor (IMO). I'm holding off a bit longer. (FREESYNC is very limited in what it can do in terms of upgrading not to mention some issues that appear to be on every FreeSync monitor which has caused people to stop using that mode and going back to synchronous mode. The G-Sync module will continue to improve and should incorporate some video processing, light-boost, and-or other features in the near future so we're not where we could be. Smoothness is great, visual quality needs work)

(About the ONLY time to run a game at 4K is if you don't sacrifice other visuals, frame rate, cost, noise and the game actually looks better than 1440p.)
 
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You shoud get the i5...
Let me post some specs:
Battlefield 4 1920x1080 Ultra (FPS Higher is better)
I7-4790K - 94
I5-4690K - 83
FX-9590 - 66
FX-8350 - 62

Crysis 3 1920x1080 Very High (FPS Higher is better)
I7-4790K - 49
I5-4690K - 46
FX-9590 - 36
FX-8350 - 31

Far Cry 3 1920x1080 Ultra (FPS Higher is better)
I7-4790K - 80
I5-4690K - 73
FX-9590 - 53
FX-8350 - 51

CineBENCH R11.5 (Higher is better)
I7-4790K - 9.21
FX-9590 - 7.85
FX-8350 - 6.98
I5-4690K - 6.49

x264 HD Encoding (Higher is better)
I7-4790K - 49.3
FX-9590 - 46.4
FX-8350 - 40.2
I5-4690K - 36.8

Premiere Pro (Time in seconds Lower is better)
I7-4790K - 27
I5-4690K - 37
FX-9590 - 51
FX-8350 - 57

Power Consumption (Wattage Lower is better)
Idle / Load
I7-4790K - 53 / 236
I5-4690K - 53 / 211
FX-9590 - 94 / 288
FX-8350 - 79 / 249
 
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Can I run 3 monitors at 2k or 1080p?
 
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Ermm... I'm sort of new and yeah I'm now seeing that the i5 runs extremely well under most circumstances compared to the 9590 and I also see that my RAM selection was not the greatest.... However I already purchased my case and its the NZXT Phantom Enthusiast. So, can I get a "Final Answer" on what i should put in my PC. I want to run everything at 2K and eventually crossfire or whatever you call it. I'm currently trying to play GTA 5 on an HP Envy laptop so anything is better than this...
 
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I recommend 5160x1080, which is triple 1080p setup. It can be managed by most single cards (R9 290/GTX 970) and, when gaming, is truly phenomenal. To have the field of view advantage is brilliant.

Just a few calculations:

5160x1080 = 5,572,800 pixels.
2560x1400 = 3,686,400 pixels.
3840x2160 = 8,294,400 pixels.

That leaves triple 1080p slap bang in the middle.

Woody
 
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Ram does matter for 4k resolution. For 1080p, nowhere near as much, as most games do not use a full 2gb, at 1080p. 1440p, memory amount can still matter, just not to the extent that 4k does. The amount of ram, and the ram bus width is why the 290, and the 290x, fares better against the 970, @ 4k, than they do @ 1080p. The 295x2 consistently beats 2x 970, @ 4k, except in titles with poor CF support. In single card, there is generally little difference between the 970 and the 290/290x. For 4k, the 970 is not the card to get. They are well suited for 1440p, though, and that was the recommendation given in the review I linked. For 4k, you really want a 295x2, or SLI 980.
 
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I was withholding judgement, on this one, until I see actually SLI review, but I believe it does have the potential to be a killer 4k card. If the ram width bus is the same, as the 970 and 980, then it might fall behind the upcoming 390x, with its HBM. I actually hope it does, as more competition means better prices, and more innovation.
 
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I don't want to give my hopes up on either of them. But AMD could pull something out of there ass and the price point could be ridiculous. HBM is easy and cheap to make. Unless they want terrible marketing they will want a price point in which can compete with a 980 Ti or Titan X.

The 980 Ti's price and extra memory will provide huge potential in 4k with SLI.
 
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