Is Obama afraid of Putin?

[musical marv]

Do you think President Obama is fearful of Putin with this situation in the Ukraine now?

 

[chunkymonster]

History, ethnicity or Russian politics ... perhaps because you guys read too much Western Media.

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/this-map-explains-why-russia-is-invading-crimea-2014-3

Obama abd Kerry shuld keep out of this one ... its none of their business.

Russia sees the unrest in the Western Ukraine differently than us ... they view the rioters in Kiev as dissidents who brought down a legitimate govt.

Putin sees this as his worst future nightmare ... remember Gadaffi anyone?

The Crimea was ceded to the Ukraine years ago by the USSR simply as a place to put it ... in their vast empire.

Over 60% of Crimeans see themselves as Russian ... and Russia is protecting their Russian interests in Crimea.

They are considered a semi-autonomous state and have been for some time.

The warm water port, Eastern Crimean relative wealth and technology compared to the argrarian Western Ukrainem and strategic pipeline a plus.

Russia will wait till the Crimean vote to cede from the Ukraine and then formally join Russia as part of their country.

If the Ukriane takes a non-aggressive stance and focuses on electing a parliament proper for itself and sorting itself out russia will not likely pound their asses into the dirt.

It is unlikely Russia will invade the Ukhraine.

The US whilst being supportive with the EU of the Ukraine's financial plight should stay out of Crimea.

It would have ceded from the Ukraine in a month if it were not for the President of the Ukriane who went running to Putin for help.

Putin and for that matter everyone else knows the guy is corrupt ... but name one tin pot leader of any of those Eastern European countries who isn't sucking the life out o the people they represent ... including Putin.

Sadly we are all going to pay a premium for this in short term gas / oil / energy increases.

+1. I agree. This is none of America's business. We need to stay out of the Ukraine and entire situation.

http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=956148

Referendum March 16th ... Crimea then becomes part of Russia.

This would have happened anyway.

Ukraine will join EU.

I wonder how the National debt will be divided?

I was not entirely surprised to hear this news. It seems to me that Crimea wants to succede and become a part of Russia. And, that's what this vote and referendum indicate; the people of the Crimea region are exercising their sovereignty and choosing to become part of the Russian Federation. I would argue that the Russian forces went into the Crimea as a precursor to the succession movement to ensure stability during the transition and prevent an all out war between Russian forces and opposing Ukrainian forces.

Here is the thing. We can't keep out of it. Did no one read the agreement Clinton signed in 1994 and Obama reaffirmed in 2009 I posted? We made Ukraine dismantle their military with the promise the USA would defend them.

So, unless we want to renege on our agreement, we have to get involved.

The BBC news and American media are egregiously bias in their reporting of the Ukrainian situation. You need to really look at the history of the Ukraine beyond the 1994 and 2009 agreements to understand that Crimeans are, have been, and will always consider themselves ethic Russians. We can and should keep out it, regardless of what the 1994 and 2009 agreements are. I would agree with you that America needs to live up to the 1994 and 2009 agreements IF the Crimean's did not want to succeed and willingly be part of the Russian Federation.

This is a Crimean succession movement. Obama, Kerry, and Hillary are grossly on the wrong side of the issue and blinded by their own ideology. They claim the current succession movement in America is unconstitutional and are applying that same standard to another nation. What they are really practicing is American imperialism. Much like if the people of California, Colorado, and Maryland want to split their States and succeed, the Ukraine should be allowed to do the same. The notion and stump speeches by Obama, Kerry, and Hillary about promoting democracy is a ruse for protecting the interests of the European Union and less about actually promoting democracy and protecting the Crimean people.

The BBC and American media are reaching hard, fast, and deep to find an signs of aggression by the Russian military, but by all indications, Putin is exercising the 1997 agreement as a precursor for the Ukraine to succeed and become part of the Russian Federation. But if you notice, there are only claims of "warning shots" and "intimidation" of unarmed Ukrainian soldiers by Russian forces. This is not the Great Russian Bear storming Nazi style (as indicated by Hillary) into the Ukraine as reported by the BBC, American media, and by Obama's, Kerry's, and Hillary's hubris would lead us to believe.

Ironically, the statement of Putin's Nazi style tactics as talked by Hillary are the exact opposite of reality. According to reports, the protesters in Ukraine are rife with anti-Semitic groups and fascist leanings. How ironic that America would oppose a legitimate move by the Ukrainian people and government to join the Russian Federation and America supporting the opposition with fascist leanings. Again, any notion of republicanism in America is dead in the eyes of Obama, Kerry, Hillary, RINO's, and all the war-hawks.

Much like many other issues, Obama and his Administration will be written in the history books to be on the wrong side of the Ukrainian succession.

 

[musical marv]

http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=956148

Referendum March 16th ... Crimea then becomes part of Russia.

This would have happened anyway.

Ukraine will join EU.

I wonder how the National debt will be divided?

I know one thing why are we offering 1 billion dollars to Ukraine while our people in the states are confronted with poverty and our children mostly the poor go to sleep hungry every night.Worry about your own back yard I say!

 

[4Ryan6]

So we're trustworthy now? OMG

Is that inward or outward?

Tell that to the American Indians.

Tell that to the American soldiers returning from the Korean War, (The so called Forgotten War!).

Tell that to the American soldiers returning from Vietnam. (Being spit on in train stations, buss stations, and airports!)

Tell that to the American Soldiers that died looking for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

Tell that to the Iraqi citizens that thought we would back their play the first time we went in, (then pulled out and left them at Saddam Hussein's so called mercy!)

Just to mention a few infractions, why does the word trustworthy when it comes to my own US governments actions make me want to puke!

So why change now and actually become trustworthy when our soldiers are the ones that will actually pay the price?

I'm sick of our soldiers being used as pawns on a chess board, then when their families need support from the very government that demanded their sacrifice, could care less about their welfare!

We are not the worlds police force, and our soldiers are not expendable, we've long lost the honor of a death defending this country, playing in someone elses sandbox!

We agree more than you know. However, we pretty much forced Ukraine to dismantle its military to please Russia with the promise we would defend them (Ukraine). I don't know, but If I was Ukrainian, I would not be happy if we turn our backs on them.

I find it amazing our Sec. State John Kerry continually cites Russia's violation of international law and how it shouldn't be done in the 21st century, yet, as a US Senator he voted to invade both Afghanistan and Iraq when the rest of the world was decrying a violation of International law.

Apparently we went there for both opium, AND oil. I can get really great, cheap heroin now. New York City is awash in it. Still scratching my head over the gas price though. Should be cheaper than heroin in my humble opinion.

I knew from some of your past comments that you already agreed on some of my post, and I agree that actually getting world trust back would be a good thing.

Getting into a situation past negotiations however is what I don't agree with, they can talk, talk, talk, and apply whatever sanctions they want but when the blood is filling the streets, leave our soldiers out of it.