Is the AMD FX 8350 good for gaming

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that made my mind, nice argument, getting a haswell i5 now, then get a steamroller later if it delivers.
 




An Intel Hasbeen i5 4570K? Lol, save your money and get a i5 3570K and a z77. I was going to buy an i7 a few months back. But then I saw more and more benchmarks on the 8350 that convinced me otherwise. I'm not a fanboy. I'm just kind of tick'd off that the Intel Fanboys almost convinced me to make a bad decision. It's like... 7 Months till steamroller?

Imo, you'd be better off buying an ASUS Sabertooth 990FX with PCIe 3.0 support and a FX 6300 and invest in a cooler and OC the bawls off that thing. Then Bios flash when SR comes along and get that chip and OC again 😀

And, even if you feel the AMD cpu isn't cutting it (which I highly doubt you will, especially if OC'd) You can upgrade to Intel's best offering's next year. Haswel isn't worth it IMO.
 


well am not sure about its name, kinda guessed it lol. seeing the incoming fourth gen intel, given the good gaming performance for value the i5-3570K got (as i hear around).... i thought getting the 4th gen i5 for now, then will get the new AMD's steamroller when it goes out AND proves itself.

BTW why the FX6300?? why not the 8350?
 


Because FX6300 gives i5 performance for $120...
 


A: The motherboard I recommended has all the features included on the motherboard that the next gen 1090FX motherboards will be having.

B: You won't have to buy a new Motherboard the time SteamRoller comes out, You'll just have to do a simple BIOS flash and You will probably save more money because the Board is cheap and offers excellent features for a AMD MoBo.

C: Intel Hasbeen (Haswel) Is only offering a small performance improvement. And most tests conducted were with OC'd RAM. And the difference was 10%? It would better just to stay with Ivy Bridge if you're going to upgrade next year again.

D: I picked the FX 6300 because Most games don't use more than 6 cores. And when OC'd, it get's around i5 level of performance. However, it cannot match performance clock for clock. But anyone who benchmarks like that isn't doing it properly. It's also a FANTASTIC CPU for $120 and will provide you the performance you need till SteamRoller. It'll save you money to invest in a cooler and an awesome MoBo.

C: Again, If you're playing on a 60Hz monitor and plan on upgrading to steamroller, Your better option is AMD. Just go with some RAM that can OC high so you get the full performance out of your chip. I hear Patriot RAM works well with AMD. You can OC to 1866 Mhz and tighten the timings and get the extra 3 FPS lost to the intel Chip XD
 


this one?
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-SABERTOOTH-990FX-R2-0-Motherboard/dp/B008YDJHWM

what about this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00906DHLE/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00906DHLE&linkCode=as2&tag=gamingsquid-20 ?

since i see some bad reviews on the Sabertooth on amazon.

thanx BTW, that was great sum up
 
FX 8350 = More power than you will need for a few years
I7 3770k/i5 3570k= More power than you will need for a few years

Both CPU's= Awesome Sauce.
Arguing over a few FPS in cherry picked games =Pointless.

Pointless= End of Thread
 


I agree with you, on a realistic basis. However when it comes to the level of down to the point testing, that is where the fanboy side comes out and these last for much longer. Now me, I look at facts and accept them. I'm not like Tek Syndicate where they used 'synthetic' testing as you could say. They used remarkably different specs in the Intel machine which housed the i5-3570k, i7-3770k, and the i7-3820, and only used an AMD card and called it quits with that test. And they also said that the FX-8350 destroyed the i5 and both i7s at stock settings in almost every test, which is not realistic. Also they used games that mostly favoured AMD GPU and CPU processing, and ran the games ONLY at max settings on 1080p. Its hilarious because I thought that those CPUs weren't APUs, and that games like those on max settings were heavily GPU dependent?

I really don't like most of their tests for that reasoning. I am somewhat of an Intel fanboy (mostly because I have the money to buy them), but not really because they are "in-style", but more for the fact that they are very good processors. With that being said, I still even hate some of the test where Intel wins because they just suck and benchmarks. They are better off as with their forum, news, and information section.

Update Note: I indefinitely love AMD, and that they are such a low price. And even when I start making YouTube videos, video editing, and seriously Bit Mining, I'd love to throw an FX-8350 with a 7970 or 7950 in a machine for that. ^_^
 


That's all you needed to write...the rest of it was unproductive and unfounded.

 


I don't have time to recommend some motherboards right now, but it looks like ASUS canceled the good one I was talking about, I think it was selling better than the Crosshair V lol. I'll come back a bit later and make a few recommendations.

*Edit*

You're welcome!

And, it looks like it's out of stock maybe? But I haven't found it anywhere else. So, you may want to call up ASUS and find out. My other choice would be the crosshair v formula. Btw, this is coming from a MSI fanboy. lol

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131969
 


I said somewhat of an Intel fan boy, because that is what it is perceived as. I don't go ranting about how this is better than that without giving solid evidence. You, on the other hand, do somewhat of ranting, and try to give evidence. I hope that you realize, the Tek Syndicate benchmarks are looked upon as failed experiments due to the fact that there are many factors that are changed, and the setting variables are kept to a minimum.
 


that IS really saying something, coming from you. I would give you the award for that.

but seriously, when is this thread going to end. Its just rants from fanboys on both sides. Someone please close it.
 


Considering, I have provided benchmark after benchmark and site after site...I think you're being a bit obtuse.
 


Go back under your bridge...

I am saying they are basically equal I have been for about 8 pages...and you keep saying that I am trying to tell you AMD beats everything on the planet.

AMD will beat even the i7-3770k in some benchmarks, it also loses it's fair share as well...but that's even fewer than the vast majority which fall squarely within margin for error.

You just don't read anything I say, then you spout off some BS.

 


Tek Syndicate is not very valid with reasonings I keep saying over and over that you seem to refuse. Also, wikipedia? Are you in 6th grade? I mean seriously, probably less than 10% of the information on there was proved legit, you think anyone will take that seriously? And you only posted 2 videos about these CPUs, both from Tek Syndicate, and you reinforced the one to the max where the FX-8350 dominated the i5-3570k, i7-3770k, and i7-3820, where the systems were nor very similar, they used AMD GPUs, and the settings were only at max.

I have been reading everything you said, and this "BS" you talk about is the information that you wish to not hear, then you tell me information, that is either false or from an invalid source.
 
G0M3R, He owns an FX 8350. He's probably experimented with it more than you have or even Tek Syndicate. In fact, Lanvo ran the RAM the default speed of intel on their AMD test platform. That could explain the differences. I don't understand how you can say Tek Syndicate isn't testing properly. They could have changed the IPC to a different number than other websites.

hafijur, Lol, 8350rocks living in cuckoo land? You're comparing a 8 core @ 4.2 GHz to an i3 that cannot be Overclocked and will be demolished in benchmarks next year. Games that show 6-8 core support play just fine on a FX 8350. Also, Isn't it like $10 on the electricity bill you save yearly with going intel? Like srsly?

My Phenom II x4 840 can play most games on high- medium settings. I just OC'd my ram from 1066mhz to 1333 Mhz. which means I was playing crysis 3 on high settings with 1066 mhz Ram lol. (any thing past 1333mhz and It doesn't bench anybetter). So, say what you want. But the FX 8350 can do what ever it pleases given the right RAM. And lets not forget the money you can save and invest in a GPU. Even though z77s are cheap right now, they wont be once haswell comes out. you can bet your bottom dollar on that xD
 
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I have seen the benchmarks you provide, they are from obscure sites and cherry picked benches, you chose to ignore all the mainstream reliable sites with solid test setups and many years of experience to achieve reliable, consistent results. The only valid game benchmark I have seen where the 8350 competes with intel's equivelant, showed across the board of review sites, is Crysis 3. And yes I have no doubt that there will be an increasing number of games in the future where the 8350 will also be competitive, I can agree with you on that.
 


Perhaps I didn't word my statement clearly.

The FX 8350 will perform on par with any i5.

The FX8350 does beat the i7-3770k in some benchmarks.

In most benchmarks between the i5-3570k and the FX 8350, the results fall squarely within margin for error.

There are some edge cases, like single threaded AAC encoding benchmarks, where there is a more noticeable difference, however, these are fewer than the masses of benchmarks that show performance to be similar.

In real world results, you will not realize a dramatic difference between the AMD and comparable i5 Intel CPUs.

Hopefully that was clear (enough)...?!
 


does the Crosshair support PCI 3? plus it supports the AM3+, which will be replaced by FM2 soon, will it worth the waiting? what is the difference exactly ?
 
No current AMD MBs support PCIe 3.0. However, don't be terribly concerned...AMD makes GPUs, and they know, as well as many others, that you cannot bog down the PCIe 2.0 as it is right now. Future GPUs may be able to do that...eventually...but not yet. When it is necessary, you will see AMD MBs with PCIe 3.0.

Additionally...AM3+ will not be supplanted by FM2. The 2 products are completely different in a lot of ways. You will see FM3 before you see AM3+ go away. Additionally...I expect we will see AM4 once PCIe 3.0 and DDR4 RAM become necessary or readily available.
 


am only concerned about future proofing, does this setup sounds future proof to you?
Crosshair V formula Z + FX8350 + 7970Ghz
 


AM3+ being replaced by the FM2 line? No... lol! There are rumors of a new AM4 lineup that will support DDR4 PCIe 3.0 like 8350rocks has stated. 8350rocks covered it. It takes a monstrous SSD to fully saturate a PCIe 2.0 slot lol. Also, with the crosshair v formula, you get 3 PCIe 2.0 slots. But, if you get dual x16. So, if you run SLI or crossfire, you'll get the full bandwidth of the PCIe 2.0 slots and you'll have good cooling for your CPU for overclocking. IMO, great for steamroller. Make sure you buy some fast RAM though (1866-2133Mhz). I imagine that steamroller is going to support faster RAM and be able to take advantage of it OTB.
 


As much as anything can be...yes. I think you'll be fine for quite a while running that setup.
 
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