[SOLVED] Is the pentium q9400 good in 2019?

[bearhairy02]

So, i have a very old pc . I don't have the budget to get an entirely new pc so I'm only gonna upgrade the cpu a little bit and deck out on gpu. My current specs are
Cpu: pentium dual core e5300
Mobo: gigabyte g41m combo
Ram:4gb
I wanna upgrade to q9400 (or q6600 or q8400) which cost less than 10$ here.
And i wanna buy a used rx 460 or 55or 560 or gtx 750 ti for less than a 100 bucks. My whole purpose is to play older games like 2008 to 2013-14ish at max settings in 720p and some new online games like fortnite(don't judge i didn't get to play the game at all in my potato pc ok) and apex legends. So is it possible to get playable fps on max settings on a bunch of older games with this spec. (Also im not planning on buying any new gpu in the future)
My whole budget is 150$ so is this a good idea?

 

[SkyNetRising]

is this a good idea?

Sure.
Just don't expect too much from that CPU. It's still 11 years old.

 

[bearhairy02]

Sure.
Just don't expect too much from that CPU. It's still 11 years old.

Well I'm not gonna expect superb performance out of something that costs less than 10$ but what i am expecting is 720p max settings on games from the processors time and a few years late. After all i will upgrade my entire pc in a year or so. I am only doing this bcz im a completionist. Meaning i won't play something latter in a series without completing the franchise.

 

[kanewolf]

Adding 4GB of RAM is just as important as upgrading the CPU, IMO.

 

[bearhairy02]

Adding 4GB of RAM is just as important as upgrading the CPU, IMO.

You mean i need 8 gigs?

 

[kanewolf]

You mean i need 8 gigs?

That would ensure that you aren't using the pagefile which kills performance. 4GB is the bare minimum. Most gamers don't JUST game, they are on discord, or watching a video or something. 8GB RAM is essential, IMO. That motherboard supports 8GB RAM as 2x4GB. You should be able to find that pretty cheap also.

 

[Achaios]

It won't be possible to play Fortnite or Apex Legends with you PC.

Apex Legends min reqs: CPU: Intel Core i3-6300 3.8GHz / AMD FX-4350 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Processor

Fortnite Min Reqs:

CPU:
Core i3 2.4 Ghz
4 GByte RAM
RAM:
8 GByte RAM
GPU:
Intel HD 4000

Even if you were to upgrade to a Q9400, it's about half or 1/3 as powerful as the minimum CPU requirements.

Your PC would struggle to even run World of Warcraft Vanilla on a private server, a 2005 game, and you wouldn't be able to get the full experience out of it either.

I realize that you are looking at "rice for a month" vs "PC upgrade", but if you aspire to play Fortnite go on half rations of rice and get a semi-modern mobo/cpu/ram combo.

 

[logainofhades]

720p gaming, just get a 2200g, 8gb ddr4, and a b450 board. That way you have an upgrade path.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($58.99 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $223.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-25 10:41 EST-0500

 

[maxamillionfeettall]

Minimum requirements are more of a guideline, but in regards to apex, your platform may not even be able to run it due to lacking cpu instructions. before you even start thinking about upgrading to run apex, install apex and see if u can even launch without an "illegal execution" error or some other error.

 

[bearhairy02]

That would ensure that you aren't using the pagefile which kills performance. 4GB is the bare minimum. Most gamers don't JUST game, they are on discord, or watching a video or something. 8GB RAM is essential, IMO. That motherboard supports 8GB RAM as 2x4GB. You should be able to find that pretty cheap also.

Well i have laptop. So if i were to watch something or use discord i would do it on my laptop(plus i hate minimizing in game. It just doesn't feel right) and cheap yes. But i have looked every where around my hood to find a pair of 4gb 1333mhz. There aren't any available in any of the stores nearby

 

[bearhairy02]

It won't be possible to play Fortnite or Apex Legends with you PC.

Apex Legends min reqs: CPU: Intel Core i3-6300 3.8GHz / AMD FX-4350 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Processor

Fortnite Min Reqs:

CPU:
Core i3 2.4 Ghz
4 GByte RAM
RAM:
8 GByte RAM
GPU:
Intel HD 4000

Even if you were to upgrade to a Q9400, it's about half or 1/3 as powerful as the minimum CPU requirements.

Your PC would struggle to even run World of Warcraft Vanilla on a private server, a 2005 game, and you wouldn't be able to get the full experience out of it either.

I realize that you are looking at "rice for a month" vs "PC upgrade", but if you aspire to play Fortnite go on half rations of rice and get a semi-modern mobo/cpu/ram combo.

I don't really care about apex or fortnite if i were to play them I'd play them just for the sake of playing them. But what is disappointing is you saying i can't play a game so old as 2005 can't be played in max settings. Idk bout WOW bt can i play some old titles such as ac1,2 brotherhood,3,4, cod mw2,3 bo1 ,2 and other cool games from 2007-2014?

 

[bearhairy02]

720p gaming, just get a 2200g, 8gb ddr4, and a b450 board. That way you have an upgrade path.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($58.99 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $223.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-25 10:41 EST-0500

That was part of the plan but the thing is the 2200g build is more expensive around here. The cpu cost 120$ the mobo costs 100$ oh and remember when ram pricing skyrocketed a year ago well..... ram still costs a lot around here 8gigs cost like 120$ so in total thats 340$ where as with the q9400 upgrade i only need to buy the cpu and a get a used gpu in total costing about a 100$

 

[logainofhades]

Look for a used sandy bridge system, at the very least, then. At least those CPU's are still somewhat relevant, with regards to performance.

 

[maxamillionfeettall]

If you can find a used prebuilt mid tower with atleast a 2nd gen i3 or i5 or just a use system like that in general, and then get a cheap gpu, thatd be significantly better. But If prices are not viable in your area, a rx550 or gtx 750 ti, or rx460 is the furthest I'd go with something like a q9550.

Although there may be an incompatibility with modern gpu's and a non uefi bios.

 

[logainofhades]

Yea, kepler is the last gen of Nvidia card, that still worked with a legacy bios. A 750ti, being a maxwell card, might not work, unless said card was given the capability. MSI had one, that had a switch, for legacy bios. You are going to want to look at older gens of cards.

 

[maxamillionfeettall]

There are exceptions as my rig is legacy and has a 1060, I suppose one will have to research compatibility thoroughly.

 

[bearhairy02]

What????????? Wdym?????? I thought all gpus support all mobos as long as they have pcie slot right??

 

[bearhairy02]

So by everyone's opinion I'll try to save up for the r3 2200g build. But the problem is with no gpu and 4gb ram will it run old games from the 2010 era? Bcz that's all i can spend really

 

[TJ Hooker]

If at all possible I would try to get 2x4 GB of RAM for the 2200G. Around 3000 MHz would be ideal.

 

[maxamillionfeettall]

Yeah, the gpu should specify whether they can run on uefi and bios, or just uefi.

The 2200g built in vega 8 should run older games relatively well, I think, but not 60fps max settings for more recent titles. It also cant use the ddr3 ram you have since it uses ddr4 ram, 8gb is really the minimum one should aim for.