[SOLVED] Is this a good PC for the price?

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Well the Xbone X has a setting for better 1080p (be it 60FPS+ or higher settings)

To get started this would be the barest of budget builds. RAM, Board and case you can get cheaper but I'm not sure how well Ryzen will take to super cheap RAM and you really should have 16GB but you have 4 slots so you can always upgrade later. The board is important for upgrade path etc and the case is important for ease of build. (Sharp, cheap case = cuts)


https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3g4rnH


Overall it is cheap but you can swap out the CPU later for any other...
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No it's not good. There are a bunch of problems with that build.

You'll have to be lucky with the bios on that board as a non updated bios does not support that cpu
The ram is far too slow and will have a huge impact on performance considering that this is an apu where the gpu also uses system ram.
The psu is simply garbage

The issue is that for 300$ you are not going to be able to get a good system unless you find some crazy deals or go used.
 
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I understand it's not the best but it's better than a console right and can play most games? The youtuber has tested most aaa games and it works and explained how to update bios. Mostly I would play magic the gathering,total war and other strategy games. It would be my first build and i could get another 8gb stick of ram a little bit later.
 
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For 300 you will struggle. You won't find anything that will outperform the Xbone X for the price of the Xbone X or less. plus you get a 4K drive with that and KB+M support.
 
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It's not better than a console apart from the switch. Updating the bios requires a LOT of extra steps and waiting for a good long while on that cpu from amd that you can use and then have to send back. Getting more ram isn't the issue. The issue is the speed. It's the slowest ddr4 you can readily find and ryzen cpu wise can get a 20% performance boost going from 2133mhz ram to 3000mhz ram and the gpu gets an even bigger boost.

This rig will struggle in games like total war so it will not deliver a satisfactory experience.
 
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You can't update the bios without a working cpu. You need a working cpu first to even get into the bios and launch the updating utility.

This is not a good system to start with it it's current state as any worthwhile upgrade will need a new psu. What is the absolute max you can spend so a better system can be made?

 
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Well the Xbone X has a setting for better 1080p (be it 60FPS+ or higher settings)

To get started this would be the barest of budget builds. RAM, Board and case you can get cheaper but I'm not sure how well Ryzen will take to super cheap RAM and you really should have 16GB but you have 4 slots so you can always upgrade later. The board is important for upgrade path etc and the case is important for ease of build. (Sharp, cheap case = cuts)


https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3g4rnH


Overall it is cheap but you can swap out the CPU later for any other Ryzen chip currently out (remember non-g CPUS require a GPU though), you can add a GPU whenever you want and RAM too. Remember to set the XMP though.
 
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The issue is how is he getting into the bios. That board is not supposed to boot if the bios is incompatible so he simply got lucky and got a board with a version that already supported the 2000 series.
 
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Don't get that case. It has no ventilation apart from a very small cutout on the bottom of the frontpanel and causes majore cooling issues. That psu is also quite poor and better can be had.
 
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XMP memory profile. If you're not running it you'll be at 2133Mhz rather than the 3000Mhz it's rated for and an APU NEEDS fast RAM. Ryzen in general needs 2666 or more in Dual channel (2 sticks in the correct slots not 1).
 
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Keeping in the price. PSU will do fine and no cases that ost less than £80 have good ventilation. Plus it's an APU they don't get hot.
 
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Whilst true. That case is extra terrible in terms of ventilation.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/G3fp99/bitfenix-case-bfcneo100kkxskrp
Something like this would be much better.
 
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Not heard good things about their build quality though

 
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Personally wouldn't bother OCing an APU the Vega GPU will be the limiting factor for it. If you get a GPU and turn the onboard graphics off then go for it. And I believe standard build guids would suffice there's plenty of good one on youtube.

XMP really isn't OCing it's more of a On/off switch just pick the highest number. Ocing would be manually changing individual settings for speeds higher than advertised (4000 Mhz on a 3000mhz kit for example). Memory has to ship at base speed for some systems that can't handle 3000 without tinkering I believe.
 
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