Is this configuration overkill?

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I feel that the processor is still under kill though, what's the speed difference between a 3.9GHz and 4.8GHz processor?

I've heard from many people that to get the full power from 3 GTX Titan Blacks, an X79 chipset is needed and an LGA2011 socket.
That's why such an overkill processor is needed. Besides, I'll be playing at 4K resolutions with everything maxed out and still achieving 60+ fps.

 
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Looking at Benchmarks, even the FX8350 out performs the 4820 some times.

You are better off with the 4770K, seems to give better benchmark results at least.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/63119-intel-i7-4930k-i7-4820k-ivy-bridge-e-review-9.html


SLI is only as...
The CPU is WAY overkill. A proper CPU for this build would be an i5 4670k or an i7 4770k AT MOST. For gaming the CPU is FAR less important than the GPU.

Also if you are playing on a single monitor that GPU is 100% pointless and you can max all games for basically half the price.

The PSU is crazy overkill as well. I mean like DOUBLE the needed watts.

The RAM is overkill too. 8gb is plenty for gaming.
 


The system is "overkill", but if you have the money and can afford it, and you want the best possible gaming experience, than it's a worthy start.

You clearly picked the most expensive videocard, most expensive processor and some of the fastest RAM that motheboard would support.

If budget is not an issue, I would toss in a second GTX Titan.

If budget is an issue, follow the suggestions above and use the extra money to SLI two Titans.


On a side note; that hard disk is only a Sata 3 Gb/s. You should get a SATA3,6 Gb/s disk. You'll get a larger performance boost from an SSD as well, instead of a HDD. You could get a small SSD for the OS and a second 1TB for data.
 
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYyyyyyy overkill for a gaming at 1080p.

you could get an i5-4670K + Z87 board for a fraction of that i7-4820K + X79 mobo, and at the same clock speed still get near similar performance in most games while saving up on power consumption. same goes for the RAM. difference between DDR3-1866 & DDR3-2133 is too minimal, and rarely does a game need more than 8GB of memory.

even a Titan or two can handle 3x 1080p monitors if that's what you're planning. or spend well under $800 for each GPU and get a 780ti or two for better performance at a better price.

all of that isn't going to require a 1300W PSU. a quality 800-850W would more than do the trick for 2x 780ti's.

future-proofing for gaming via excessive spending is a pointless practice. you could get a $4500 build to last you 5-7 years now, and it'd be beaten by a $2000 build 2-3 years down the road. you could get a $2000 PC to last you 3-4 years and another better $2000 PC after that time frame that outperforms the first PC and you'd still get a better value off it.
 
Uh, well. I'm pretty new to hardware, so I'll have to bite and say that the recommended PSU (by most websites) is 1200W. Unfortunately Origin PC doesn't have that option so the next best option is 1300W. Also, you've never experienced pure graphics power until you've run Crysis 3 on a 3-way Titan setup. Lastly, i7 4820k is far from being the BEST processor on the market, that title goes to the intel i7 4960x, which is WAY outside my budget.
 
And an SSD will add $300 to the already expensive cost. Plus, I don't mind waiting an extra 3-5 seconds for the OS or a game to load up if it saves $300. The Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB HDD is already one of the fastest HDDs out there.
 
It is ridiculous to want multiple titans for a 1080p setup and not even get an SSD in my opinion.

Also Crysis 3 will MAX on a single titan at 1080p NO PROBLEM. Even lesser cards can do it. You have ZERO use for more than a 780ti on a 1080p monitor.

If you are gaming that CPU is pointless. an i7 4770k would perform basically the same for WAY less money.
 
If you have that type of money to spend, there are some wiser ways to spend it on a similar build. Even on the Same platform. Splurge for the 4930k and overclock it. You'll get the best cost for performance out of that chip on this chipset, including 6-cores and higher cache.

At the very least, don't get a rad that big for a chip you aren't going to overclock. If you do decide to get the 4930k and overclock it I would consider a 240 rad for the chipset. Fill up on extra case cooling with case fans to direct flow through the case and over those GPU's. With even two big GPU's like that, the primary one will like to heat up quickly under load so extra flow from the side onto the card is helpful. A good plan for intake and exhaust with the rest of the fans is also crucial to overall temps.

Don't waste your money on tri-SLI unless you have a severe need to explain to everyone how you spent over $1000 bucks on a third card to gain single-digit percentage boost in graphical performance at best, in a few games or programs. Literally a few games or programs. If you are an established, professional graphic designer/renderer, by all means get as many GPU's as you need. But for gaming, 2XSLI is the point where you are still paying for a reasonable upgrade in performance.

You mentioned 4K gaming, but have a 1080 monitor in your build. If you are have, or are getting a 4K monitor, at that point I might consider a titan for the extra ram on the GPU and power. If you're 1080p though, like the monitor you chose suggests, even 2X GTX780Ti's is overkill. You need to clarify what you are actually going to be running for a display here for someone to help you with choice of GPU and how many.

Because of the GPU issue, you may not and probably don't need a 1300W PSU.

As for the ram. One of the advantages of this platform is the quad channel IMC, but you've chosen a dual stick ram package. This will work on this platform but does not make sense. Either move to a 4X4gb kit, or move up to a 4X? kit to take advantage of the quad channel IMC and the extra power it gives.

For your hard drive, do as the others said and get either a 1TB with a 6Gb\sc sata connect or multiples and raid them to meet the capacity you are seeking. A system that is potentially this powerful shouldn't be bottlenecking here. Also, get an SSD for your OS and system files at least. This will speed up your system load times, windows, and web surfing. A 120Gb is a good size for this, 240Gb or more if you plan to load lots of games.

There are other things you could also look at, like which motherboard is best, but you should really decide on these things first as they may help sway what motherboard you are looking for.
 
i'm gonna back Tiny Voices here;

it is a total waste of money to get 3 titans to run just a few handful of demanding games at 1080p. maxing out Crysis3 at 1080p at 60fps, vsync enabled with 3x titans isn't going to differ much with a 2x 780ti (or even one 780ti). both will hit a constant 60fps if you can ignore the possible microstutters with an SLI config. and trust me, you'll likely enabled Vsync with that monitor. & considering that the 780ti outperforms the Titan, for several hundred dollars less, it makes for a better choice; http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1072?vs=1060

(http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp) this is the most popularly used PSU calculator. an i7-3770K + 2x 780ti (which again is more than enough to max out C3) requires ~770W by it's estimation, and even then, it's an over-estimation, as you can likely run it with a 650-700W PSU. but i'm gonna play it safe and recommend you 800-850W as it offers more than plenty of head room then. most other PSU calculators from many manufacturers are total BS that over-estimates far worse than extreme outervision's calculations. personal experience; years, back the link above gave me ~650W for an i5-2500K+GTX560ti. i've seen people run it on a 500W PSU.

finally some performance comparison between a mainstream i5/i7 vs an SB-E CPU:
I5-4670K vs. i5-4770K:
http://www.hardwarepal.com/best-cpu-gaming-9-processors-8-games-tested/
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/intel_haswell_core_i5_4670k_core_i7_4770k_review,13.html
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1061&page=4
http://www.techspot.com/review/679-intel-haswell-core-i7-4770k/page12.html

so in the case that there's no i5 to compare with in these IB-E CPUs review, use the 4770K as a reference;
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/prozessoren/27991-intel-core-i7-4820k-im-test.html?start=7
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/63119-intel-i7-4930k-i7-4820k-ivy-bridge-e-review-14.html
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4761/25/intel-core-i7-4960x---4930k--4820k-ivy-bridge-e-review-22nm-powerhouse-benchmarks-hd-7970-hitman-absolution-1920x1080-high
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/core_i7_4820k_processor_review,14.html

far too little benefits for far too much money.
 


This is not possible. You have to BUY a 4k resolution monitor. The highest resolution on a 1080p monitor.....is 1080p.

Expect to pay $650+ for one of these monitors. Usually alot more.
 


Looking at Benchmarks, even the FX8350 out performs the 4820 some times.

You are better off with the 4770K, seems to give better benchmark results at least.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/63119-intel-i7-4930k-i7-4820k-ivy-bridge-e-review-9.html


SLI is only as good as it's profile in the driver. You might be setting yourself up for some disappointment on that level. You seem to be spending a lot of money on something you are very unsure of. You might want to consider something in the mid to high range, and upgrade if you maintain using your PC as a hobby, instead of wasting money on top.

Unless, of course, you have a lot of money to waste, or you're just wasting our time playing pretend.
 
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Two titans is still a waste unless you're going to spend money on a better monitor. Either higher resolution,higher FPS, multiples displays or a combination of all three. You should be looking at lowering your dollars spent on GPU's by moving at least to 2 X GTX 780TI's or even 2 X GTX 780's.

The extra money saved there could be spen on things like SSD's, better harddrives, better and more monitors, and a better chip and maybe even motherboard. Add this up with potential savings on the PSU and cooling like I suggested and you'll have an enviable build, that is current generation, with room to upgrade, and you haven't taken out a second mortgage to do it. You won't see the performance difference between these changes and your original build in gaming for as long as this computer is within a "current-gen" status. Not for your intended use anyways.
 
You are going to spend thousands on GPUs you can't even utilize fully at all. These GPUs will probably be outdated and pointless before they even come into their own on a build with less than a 4k monitor. You won't be able to use them fully now, and then when they get a bit old they will likely age VERY fast.

Look at the gtx295. This was the TITAN of its day. It was a powerhouse and could max any game. People did what you plan to do and bough a ton of them. They weren't able to use them fully but figured they will be future proof. Well, about a year after they released, the GDDR5 cards came out and for half of what you paid for the gtx295 you could get an equally powerful card. Chances are something software or hardware related will release within 2 years and GREATLY reduce the performance of current GPUs.

A titan black is $1000. I promise that in 2 years you can buy a setup for $1000 that will be MUCH more powerful than your $2000 SLI titans.
 



Just pick up an i5 with one GTX 780, and you won't even notice the difference on one monitor.

Microsoft just announced DX12 recently; this whole generation of cards are going to be "obsolete" at the end of the year, assuming it's launched with Windows 9.

Unless you want to run benchmarks, that setup is worthless. The FX8350 is giving that chip a run for it's money at a mere $190.

I recommend a decent Asus MicroATX board, with 8 GB of 1866 DDR3, an i5 4670k, and 1 GTX 780 or GTX 780 ti, which perform just as good as the Titan for less money.