Is this Hobby going to Die??

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Lately there has not been much going on here on the group. With all
the rants and spam ,most off topic, there does not seem like this group
and hobby is what it used to be years ago. Now with the possible loss
of marketplace (which is only because people can't use the groups
properly) and the possible loss of Bob Roberts, I personally do not see
the future of this hobby being good. Also, some collectors have sold
their collection and moved on with their lives. Are we getting too old
for this stuff now? What is the future of this hobby?
 
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Granted prices are about 50% of what they were 5 years ago and the
hobby is on a downturn.

This hobby is bigger than this newsgroup or RGVAM or any one supplier
of parts. Go to an auction and there are still tons of people
attending.

You have to ask yourself are you in this hobby for yourself or "because
everybody else is doing it".

I for one collect what I like and like where the prices are going which
is down.

I don't think the hobby will completely die, but maybe become something
obscure like jukebox collecting, or antique collecting, but it won't be
for a long while.

L.
 
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you must be relatively new here? which i didnt think

but going back (late 90's) when collecting was at an all time high in
terms of demand and value, there has always been fighting, spam, rants,
off topic stuff etc... and its on almost all newsgroups not just here

this topic has been covered before and not too long ago. basically most
hard core collectors have their collections now. sure every now and
then we rotate a few pieces in and out here and there. but we're mostly
set. we are still passionate about arcades.

the hobby is still going strong imo. perhaps the posts and traffic are
down in this newsgroup, but i associate with a lot of people in here
privately on the phone and email.

bob roberts was one of a kind, im not writing him off yet. but if hes
gone someone will replace him. he didnt do this for free. where theres
money to be made the needs will be met i assure you.
 
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Well, I have been reading this group since '97 or early '98 and the way
this group was then was way much better than now. It just seems like
most of the topics now are not as useful as they were back then. Maybe
I've just read them all and now anything new has been done over and
over again?
 
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I have been collecting games since 1979.When I was 13 I would sweep the
floor and clean games for a small gameroom 3 blocks from my house and
he would give me broken or unwanted games and I would fix them up I
bought My first game at 9 and I always have had at least 3 games in my
house or apartment or in storage. I now have my own house and the
basement is my gameroom I doubt that I will ever give it up. There will
always be people that get into things and get bored and move on. It
happens with every hobby, Me I am in for life
Rob
Plisskin wrote:
> Lately there has not been much going on here on the group. With all
> the rants and spam ,most off topic, there does not seem like this group
> and hobby is what it used to be years ago. Now with the possible loss
> of marketplace (which is only because people can't use the groups
> properly) and the possible loss of Bob Roberts, I personally do not see
> the future of this hobby being good. Also, some collectors have sold
> their collection and moved on with their lives. Are we getting too old
> for this stuff now? What is the future of this hobby?
 
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There were some pins and vids at Http://www.pennyarcadeexpo.com

They got alot of play. I loved playing gorf on freeplay. Anyhow. yes.
Some of the classics will never go away. I see they have a ms-pac at my
community college. These icons won't go away. Namco still keeps
re-iterating pacman as well. Heck pacman vs. makes me want to get a
game cube just for it. prices getting depressed isn't an issue. Let it
happen.

Theres been some new blood in my generation. Don't expect this type of
thing to die so easily.
 
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it's sad to see the value of your games drop to nothing, rare games
included.
it's great if your buying them. but they are only worth what you are willing
to pay anyways anymore, no more.
with mame and the multi games what came out, there is not much market
anymore for dedicated games. I think guys will keep the games they like and
sell off what's left.

me personally, I don't even bother picking up games anymore unless it's a
game I really want.
And I already own or have owned most of those.
I went this whole year and only bought 1 game so far, and it was a pin and
has since been sold.
unlike the old days when I would grab anything and everything.
I don't ever see the prices returning to what they once were, however it
wont die off completely.



Troy,



"Plisskin" <scorpiokings@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126915061.917223.133350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Lately there has not been much going on here on the group. With all
> the rants and spam ,most off topic, there does not seem like this group
> and hobby is what it used to be years ago. Now with the possible loss
> of marketplace (which is only because people can't use the groups
> properly) and the possible loss of Bob Roberts, I personally do not see
> the future of this hobby being good. Also, some collectors have sold
> their collection and moved on with their lives. Are we getting too old
> for this stuff now? What is the future of this hobby?
>
 
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It started last year may 2004 for me. The fever caught on right away.
It hit home instantly. I now have over 30 boards, 6 cabinets in the
house, and working for video doctors full time. Talk about a Quick
transition. This is it; the path won't be changing for me. I'm a
lifer with a passionate craze. And all in just over a year! Now 2 of my
buddies are exploring it. 1 just picked up his first cab. The business
side of it drives me mad. There is some real scum in the industry.
It's a double edged sword doing this for a living and for the love of
the hobby at the same time. Conflicts with pricing, what they charge
customers for my repair job ect. I understand that the repair
industry, distribution, and operating is ones bread and butter. It's
still not an excuse to be a greedy villain. At any rate, I do
everything I do in business and hobby to feed the fever! This is a
wonderful haven for support and being part of this wonderous culture.
 
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I came up with a theory on the new generation of collectors. Coined
them the Street Fighter Generation. Collectors of the late 80's early
90's games. A vision to share. So it will boost I beleive. Lots of us
(street fighter generation) have more spending bread and are buying up
the games we dreamed about as teens.
 
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yes it will. If the peak was 100%, I'd say we are at 50% now. I think we
will bottom near 15-20%. In terms of number of collectors, value of games,
etc.

"Plisskin" <scorpiokings@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126915061.917223.133350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Lately there has not been much going on here on the group. With all
> the rants and spam ,most off topic, there does not seem like this group
> and hobby is what it used to be years ago. Now with the possible loss
> of marketplace (which is only because people can't use the groups
> properly) and the possible loss of Bob Roberts, I personally do not see
> the future of this hobby being good. Also, some collectors have sold
> their collection and moved on with their lives. Are we getting too old
> for this stuff now? What is the future of this hobby?
>
 
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Im still in need to 2 sf gen carts.. does anyone out there repair
these!. got 2 dead carts. ackkk!.
 
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I don't think it will die, but I can't believe what it was like 6 years ago
versus today. Now is a great time to collect in terms of $. There are
those will get out of it, and those who will get the fever, and those who
will sustain. If more people get out of it, then good for me. I'm not on
the business side of it.

tim (NH)

"Chuk" <chuk@ourcade.com> wrote in message
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> yes it will. If the peak was 100%, I'd say we are at 50% now. I think we
> will bottom near 15-20%. In terms of number of collectors, value of
> games, etc.
>
> "Plisskin" <scorpiokings@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1126915061.917223.133350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Lately there has not been much going on here on the group. With all
>> the rants and spam ,most off topic, there does not seem like this group
>> and hobby is what it used to be years ago. Now with the possible loss
>> of marketplace (which is only because people can't use the groups
>> properly) and the possible loss of Bob Roberts, I personally do not see
>> the future of this hobby being good. Also, some collectors have sold
>> their collection and moved on with their lives. Are we getting too old
>> for this stuff now? What is the future of this hobby?
>>
>
>
>
 
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I hope it's going nowhere so I can get my new basement filled. I picked
up the rare ones I wanted (Satan's Hollow, Tutankham, Starship One,
Gravitar)and will never sell plus some popular ones as well (Tempest,
Tron, Battlezone, Zaxxon, Space Invaders, Dig dug). When someone says
lets get together for the badger Game my house is always volunteered.

Just the best part of being single, successful and a geek. This hobby
will always be here for me.

When I can get the Asteroids for 50, the centipede and millipede for
50, the missile command, omega race and star wars for 50. I'll be in
heaven so die hobby, die.

I'm in Wisconsin as well.
 
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Pins are great no doubt... one thing scares me though... Stern... can
anyone name another company that still produces pins? Im not a pin nut,
serious and curious question. to my knowledge there isnt anyone else.
 
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No other company at this time is mass producing pinballs, besides Stern.
There is a lot of talk about potentially other players, but at this point is
is ONLY Stern.

Regards,
Dan
 
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Really who cares if the profiteers and posers leave? There are some
advantages to having these people around, but mostly, for people like
myself they are/were a drag, a drain, a parasite on the hobby.

I've been collecting for nearly 7 years. I've never found a hobby like
this. I remember pining after games like Berzerk and Defender in 1980.
Games like Dragons Lair in 1983. I left arcade games behind me around
1984. In fact from 84-98 the only games I remember were Ghosts n
Goblins. Ghouls N Ghosts, After burner, Rastan, Virtual Fighter and
Daytona USA.

My current collection consists of 10 high end pins(MM, AFM, LOTR etc..)
and 15 or so classic 80's vids. At this point in my collecting career,
I aquire one or two games a year. Do I complain if I pay 2 or 3 hundred
for a classic video game instead of 5 to 8 hundred? Nope, some how I
will survive this terrible burden.

So for those who leave the hobby, don't let the door hit you in the ass
on the way out. More for the rest of us who have arcade games in the
blood. I only feel sorry for future generations who will never
appreciate why these examples of obsolete technology in colorful boxes
were so important.
 
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Really who cares if the profiteers and posers leave? There are some
advantages to having these people around, but mostly, for people like
myself they are/were a drag, a drain, a parasite on the hobby.

I've been collecting for nearly 7 years. I've never found a hobby like
this. I remember pining after games like Berzerk and Defender in 1980.
Games like Dragons Lair in 1983. I left arcade games behind me around
1984. In fact from 84-98 the only games I remember were Ghosts n
Goblins. Ghouls N Ghosts, After burner, Rastan, Virtual Fighter and
Daytona USA.

My current collection consists of 10 high end pins(MM, AFM, LOTR etc..)
and 15 or so classic 80's vids. At this point in my collecting career,
I aquire one or two games a year. Do I complain if I pay 2 or 3 hundred
for a classic video game instead of 5 to 8 hundred? Nope, some how I
will survive this terrible burden.

So for those who leave the hobby, don't let the door hit you in the ass
on the way out. More for the rest of us who have arcade games in the
blood. I only feel sorry for future generations who will never
appreciate why these examples of obsolete technology in colorful boxes
were so important.
 
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Oh and your a professional statistician now.???
"Chuk" <chuk@ourcade.com> wrote in message
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> yes it will. If the peak was 100%, I'd say we are at 50% now. I think we
> will bottom near 15-20%. In terms of number of collectors, value of
> games, etc.
>
> "Plisskin" <scorpiokings@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1126915061.917223.133350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Lately there has not been much going on here on the group. With all
>> the rants and spam ,most off topic, there does not seem like this group
>> and hobby is what it used to be years ago. Now with the possible loss
>> of marketplace (which is only because people can't use the groups
>> properly) and the possible loss of Bob Roberts, I personally do not see
>> the future of this hobby being good. Also, some collectors have sold
>> their collection and moved on with their lives. Are we getting too old
>> for this stuff now? What is the future of this hobby?
>>
>
>
>
 
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Yes, make that 17.4 to 19.2%

"MARK" <MARKLINE@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote in message
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> Oh and your a professional statistician now.???
> "Chuk" <chuk@ourcade.com> wrote in message
> news:J%IWe.56337$906.39655@fe06.usenetserver.com...
>> yes it will. If the peak was 100%, I'd say we are at 50% now. I think
>> we will bottom near 15-20%. In terms of number of collectors, value of
>> games, etc.
>>
>> "Plisskin" <scorpiokings@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1126915061.917223.133350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> Lately there has not been much going on here on the group. With all
>>> the rants and spam ,most off topic, there does not seem like this group
>>> and hobby is what it used to be years ago. Now with the possible loss
>>> of marketplace (which is only because people can't use the groups
>>> properly) and the possible loss of Bob Roberts, I personally do not see
>>> the future of this hobby being good. Also, some collectors have sold
>>> their collection and moved on with their lives. Are we getting too old
>>> for this stuff now? What is the future of this hobby?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
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I know that nobody here will admit it.But it's exactly as i predicted 2
years ago on here.I told everyone to sell then while your games are still
worth anything.Just do a google search from back then.I said exactly this
was happening.This hobby/business is almost a thing of the past.Sure there
will always be some people who will always love and collect games.But it
like Baseball cards.Many years ago before everyone was collecting trading
and so on.Whoever got in on the ground floor cleaned up.Same with ebay.The
people who were doing ebay when it first started used to get 10 times the
price they get for stuff now.It's like anything else.It's ran it's course
and now the party is over and lets all go home until the next awesome thing
becomes a hit.And then watch it fizzle out just like the game world.I
enjoyed the ride and bought and sold 3 houses,Took many vacations,bought
many items made of gold from this business.But now i can eat at Micky Dees
with the money it generates.See you all at the next great Phase that comes
along.HAPPY TRAILS TOOOO YOOOO.DOO DOODOODOOOO,HAPPY TRAILS TO YA MAMA.DOOT
DO DOODY DOOOOOOOOO.:) HhahahahahahahaMade myself laugh.:))).Also the hit of
acid i just dropped might have had something to do with it
too.:)))):))):),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
"Plisskin" <scorpiokings@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Lately there has not been much going on here on the group. With all
> the rants and spam ,most off topic, there does not seem like this group
> and hobby is what it used to be years ago. Now with the possible loss
> of marketplace (which is only because people can't use the groups
> properly) and the possible loss of Bob Roberts, I personally do not see
> the future of this hobby being good. Also, some collectors have sold
> their collection and moved on with their lives. Are we getting too old
> for this stuff now? What is the future of this hobby?
>
 
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Ok i can accept that.:)
"Chuk" <chuk@ourcade.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, make that 17.4 to 19.2%
>
> "MARK" <MARKLINE@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote in message
> news:usKWe.1788$gE7.120@fe08.lga...
>> Oh and your a professional statistician now.???
>> "Chuk" <chuk@ourcade.com> wrote in message
>> news:J%IWe.56337$906.39655@fe06.usenetserver.com...
>>> yes it will. If the peak was 100%, I'd say we are at 50% now. I think
>>> we will bottom near 15-20%. In terms of number of collectors, value of
>>> games, etc.
>>>
>>> "Plisskin" <scorpiokings@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1126915061.917223.133350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Lately there has not been much going on here on the group. With all
>>>> the rants and spam ,most off topic, there does not seem like this group
>>>> and hobby is what it used to be years ago. Now with the possible loss
>>>> of marketplace (which is only because people can't use the groups
>>>> properly) and the possible loss of Bob Roberts, I personally do not see
>>>> the future of this hobby being good. Also, some collectors have sold
>>>> their collection and moved on with their lives. Are we getting too old
>>>> for this stuff now? What is the future of this hobby?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
 
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This hobby is going nowhere. For those truly in it for the hobby and not
the money it's more exciting now than ever as you can finally get that rare
game or oddball title for a decent price. This IS a hobby, not a
business.. hobbies ebb and flow.. prices go up and then back down but the
true hobbiests will always be there. Those that walk through their
gamerooms and look at their collections only to see dollar signs will be
gone soon and the prices will get back to what they were in the early days
of collecting. The only difference between then and now is that the
majority of the warehouses have been found, the rare stuff's been located.
The silly prices of the late 90's were a blip and good while they lasted and
helped many people build their collections, but just like Beanie Babies the
bubble eventually burst and reality came back into the picture. Just
because things are not selling for stupid amounts of money don't equate that
to a hobby dying. If you want to collect do it for yourself and the
enjoyment of the hobby, if you want to invest in something talk to a bank.

/b

http://www.rgvac.com
"Plisskin" <scorpiokings@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126915061.917223.133350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Lately there has not been much going on here on the group. With all
> the rants and spam ,most off topic, there does not seem like this group
> and hobby is what it used to be years ago. Now with the possible loss
> of marketplace (which is only because people can't use the groups
> properly) and the possible loss of Bob Roberts, I personally do not see
> the future of this hobby being good. Also, some collectors have sold
> their collection and moved on with their lives. Are we getting too old
> for this stuff now? What is the future of this hobby?
>
 
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Hobbies rarely die. There are still tons of people out there with their
baseball cards, matchbox cars and beenie babies. There will still be people
collecting/selling/trading video games for many years to come. I work part
time for an operator who sells plenty of stuff to homebuyers. He has to
have the largest showroom on the East Coast if not in the country. The
summers are slow but as Xmas closes in, it really starts to pick up. Of
course he's located in Fairfield County, Connecticut which has alot of money
floating around in it too.

I used to sell alot of games, probably close to 200 over the past 4 or 5
years, but I've cut way back and am working on my collection slowly instead.
I got tired of not having a garage and bought a new car recently so I scaled
back to having the car and two or three games in the garage instead of 12 or
13 projects in there at any given time. At one point I had about 25 games
in my garage and would have to pull 4 out just to get into the garage.

I think the multigames and mame also reduce the demand for the classics
because it's so much easier to have one machine that plays 9 or 39 or 3000
games. Not everyone has a game room or basement to keep these in. If you
live in an apartment I would think a multigame or Mame machine would be
ideal. I also think that the people who grew up in arcades, much like
myself, are starting to get to the age where their young ones are taking up
much more time and they find themselves with alot less time to toy with
hobbies. Driving here and there, soccer games, baseball games, school
stuff.. it all adds up.

Some interesting reading in the group these past couple of weeks.

just my 2¢

Scott




"prOk" <bsonej@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> This hobby is going nowhere. For those truly in it for the hobby and not
> the money it's more exciting now than ever as you can finally get that
> rare game or oddball title for a decent price. This IS a hobby, not a
> business.. hobbies ebb and flow.. prices go up and then back down but the
> true hobbiests will always be there. Those that walk through their
> gamerooms and look at their collections only to see dollar signs will be
> gone soon and the prices will get back to what they were in the early days
> of collecting. The only difference between then and now is that the
> majority of the warehouses have been found, the rare stuff's been located.
> The silly prices of the late 90's were a blip and good while they lasted
> and helped many people build their collections, but just like Beanie
> Babies the bubble eventually burst and reality came back into the picture.
> Just because things are not selling for stupid amounts of money don't
> equate that to a hobby dying. If you want to collect do it for yourself
> and the enjoyment of the hobby, if you want to invest in something talk to
> a bank.
>
> /b
>
> http://www.rgvac.com
> "Plisskin" <scorpiokings@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1126915061.917223.133350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Lately there has not been much going on here on the group. With all
>> the rants and spam ,most off topic, there does not seem like this group
>> and hobby is what it used to be years ago. Now with the possible loss
>> of marketplace (which is only because people can't use the groups
>> properly) and the possible loss of Bob Roberts, I personally do not see
>> the future of this hobby being good. Also, some collectors have sold
>> their collection and moved on with their lives. Are we getting too old
>> for this stuff now? What is the future of this hobby?
>>
>
>
 
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since when do we care if the hobby dies? I collect for myself.

jon

--
http://www.arcade-classics.com
"Plisskin" <scorpiokings@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126915061.917223.133350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Lately there has not been much going on here on the group. With all
> the rants and spam ,most off topic, there does not seem like this group
> and hobby is what it used to be years ago. Now with the possible loss
> of marketplace (which is only because people can't use the groups
> properly) and the possible loss of Bob Roberts, I personally do not see
> the future of this hobby being good. Also, some collectors have sold
> their collection and moved on with their lives. Are we getting too old
> for this stuff now? What is the future of this hobby?
>