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Darkbreeze

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Every manufacturer, even historically including those that are long gone, has had driver issues from time to time. It's just that for a while there the AMD problems weren't with a specific driver release or device, they were pretty widespread and for some users, for a fairly long time. They don't have this problem so much anymore as they've totally revised the driver framework with the introduction of Crimson, and actually for a bit prior to that at the end of CCC they had most problem ironed out.

Like I said though, many users might still have a bad taste in their mouth from rinsing with CCC back in the day.
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - BX500 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($33.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.27 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $637.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-26 02:29 EST-0500
hey bud just want to follow up with you.

Im getting this PC for my birthday in about 2-3 weeks.

Is there any updates to the build or anything cheaper? Thanks ahead of time :)
 

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Sorry man, but Tom's hardware just went through a complete change of forum software over the last couple of weeks and most of my followed threads no longer showed up as tracked. I had to manually go through threads I've posted in the past to find the ones that had replies I never responded to. Are you still looking to build or have you already ordered your parts?
 

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Sorry man, but Tom's hardware just went through a complete change of forum software over the last couple of weeks and most of my followed threads no longer showed up as tracked. I had to manually go through threads I've posted in the past to find the ones that had replies I never responded to. Are you still looking to build or have you already ordered your parts?
Im still looking to build and want the most up to date best performance/price list (please with Nvidia graphics).

Im going to have a slightly higher budget at 700$ so it would be cool to see what you got. Ill be ordering the pc around the 25th. :)
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Tactical 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($58.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($67.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 590 8 GB NITRO+ SE Video Card ($219.99 @ Walmart)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($58.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $695.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-16 03:18 EDT-0400
 

Darkbreeze

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That's a good build right there, for the price.

This might be another option. No rebates. Straight price.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($184.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.00 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg Business)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB OC Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $688.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-16 04:02 EDT-0400
 

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That's a good build right there, for the price.

This might be another option. No rebates. Straight price.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($184.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.00 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg Business)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB OC Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $688.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-16 04:02 EDT-0400
I need a case and storage included in the price :) full system my man :)
 

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That's a good build right there, for the price.

This might be another option. No rebates. Straight price.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($184.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.00 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg Business)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB OC Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $688.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-16 04:02 EDT-0400
also the previous build you gave me I was going to buy for 637$ with the 1060 6gb , most of the prices listed are way higher when I click the item ...

Would that system still be within the 700$ max with no rebates now?

if not can you give me a full system (without windows Ill get win 10 free) with no rebates, 700$ max that is up to date WITH NVIDIA :) ?

ALSO, Id be willing to pay a little extra say, 750$ for a PRE BUILT if you could also suggest one thatd be awesome. Like is this any good for being pre-built? https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Fallout-Basic-Computer-DDR4-2666/dp/B07N29Z4CG/ref=sr_1_18?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1552728290&refinements=p_36:65000-75000&rnid=386442011&s=pc&sr=1-18 I have prime so I can get it for 719$ with 2 day shipping. However Id prefer to have the ryzen chipset. idk.

or this? Would it be worth buying and upgrade the cpu later? Or is the cpu bad? https://www.amazon.com/Gaming-Computer-Desktop-PC-Quad-Core/dp/B07G49WPF1/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1552728290&refinements=p_36:65000-75000&rnid=386442011&s=pc&sr=1-9#customerReviews
 
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Naturally, if the CPU runs at half speed, that makes either the CPU or mainboard effectively worthless in the value equation, and the cost goes upward of $250 pretty quickly. (I'd be curious to know if the mainboard would throttle if given a little airflow across the VRM components, as many woould throttle when folks switched to AIO affairs, which then deprived the chipsets with any cooling from the CPU fan's downdraft/secondary cooling effect...
 

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I put together this system.

Will it run GTA V and newer games like Black Ops 4 / Apex / Fornite at medium-high settings at 1080p 60 fps?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor | $164.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $76.89 @ OutletPC
Memory | G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory | $55.98 @ Newegg
Storage | Team - L5 LITE 3D 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $29.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3 GB Dual Video Card | $169.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case | $44.99 @ B&H
Power Supply | Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $43.98 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $641.61
| Mail-in rebates | -$55.00
| Total | $586.61
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-16 07:23 EDT-0400 |
 

Darkbreeze

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This is about the best I can do at that price range, without dropping on the quality of components any further as these others have done to fit under the cap, unless you want to drop the CPU down to a Ryzen 5 2600 instead of the 2600x, which is an option but probably results in an inferior piece of silicon but maybe not enough so to make it a deal breaker.

As for the prices you see, IDK. I have rebates turned off in PCPP, so those should be the actual prices not counting any tax (Despite it saying it includes tax. It never does). I have changed it to use only Newegg and Amazon though, as some of the other vendors try to get around the exclusion in PCPP for rebates by calling them promos when in fact they are actual MIR. Shouldn't be any of those here now but regardless, I don't see it getting much better than this for the price. The 1660 is going to have significantly better performance, measurable, than the GTX 1600.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($98.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB OC Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($63.47 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $747.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-16 14:17 EDT-0400
 

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This is about the best I can do at that price range, without dropping on the quality of components any further as these others have done to fit under the cap, unless you want to drop the CPU down to a Ryzen 5 2600 instead of the 2600x, which is an option but probably results in an inferior piece of silicon but maybe not enough so to make it a deal breaker.

As for the prices you see, IDK. I have rebates turned off in PCPP, so those should be the actual prices not counting any tax (Despite it saying it includes tax. It never does). I have changed it to use only Newegg and Amazon though, as some of the other vendors try to get around the exclusion in PCPP for rebates by calling them promos when in fact they are actual MIR. Shouldn't be any of those here now but regardless, I don't see it getting much better than this for the price. The 1660 is going to have significantly better performance, measurable, than the GTX 1600.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($98.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB OC Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($63.47 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $747.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-16 14:17 EDT-0400
Hey Dark I did see your previous message before u did the edit. I was so positive I could find a better system for that price and tbh, your pc price parts list led me to their website and Ive done some digging, searching n bla bla bla.

However I feel this build could do more for me, even with the rebates, than ur build did. Ur build did change on me a cpl time however after actually using the pcpp website i see why as Im trying to build my own.

Ty for taking the time but if u can match me on better quality/price on this build, lmk asap bcuz im ordering in about 5 days.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor | $164.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard | $114.89 @ OutletPC
Memory | Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory | $49.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $57.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3 GB Dual Video Card | $169.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case | $38.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $63.88 @ OutletPC
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $720.52
| Mail-in rebates | -$60.00
| Total | $660.52
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-26 02:46 EDT-0400 |
 

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Ryzen needs fast ram to perform optimally. You want atleast ddr4 2933. However ddr4 300 is usually cheaper than 2933, this is why Darkbreeze and I used ddr4 3000 is our proposed builds.
Here's one with a bigger faster SSD, faster ram and a faster GPU.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Tactical 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($58.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $666.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-26 03:43 EDT-0400
 

Darkbreeze

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There's lots of things you can do differently if you're willing to have to deal with mail in rebates. But, if you actual dollars you have to spend is X, and the build is beyond that in terms of X+mail in rebate difference, that's often a deal breaker for many people which is why I don't show them usually. Any of these builds is and are good options.

By the time you pay for the mail in rebates, you're going to pay as much as what my build without them runs, plus you will lack the 16GB of RAM I included, the higher end Turing graphics card, a better case and a better motherboard. If you want to pay 63.00 for a power supply, I'd suggest you also want to look at something better than the CX series of units. They are ok, but now you're getting into the price range of much better power supplies, at least if you're including the mail in rebates.

This Antec Earthwatts unit is the same platform as the Seasonic Focus units, with Gold efficiency and semi-modular. 7 year warranty versus the five year warranty on that Corsair unit.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: Antec - Earthwatts Gold Pro 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $59.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-26 13:56 EDT-0400
 

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