Is wd updating the Raptor?

[SuperFly03]

Thank you for being a reasonable person.

Edit: Just to clarify, DiamondMax 10 HDD's are SATA 1.5Gb/s with NCQ not SATA II or SATA 3.0Gb/s.

 

[bberson]

The faster tires have softer rubber and therefore more grip. I use that grip on a daily basis. I also have been ticketed for going 135mph, so yes I do use my $1000 tires. Nice try. I live in Texas, plenty of room to hit 120-130. Just because you are too scared to drive that fast doesn't mean others don't. There is nothing theoretical about the value of the Z rated tires. Let's see how great you "value" tires hold up in cornering, hard acceleration, and wet weather.

You were doing great until you got to this. Faster tires actually have harder rubber and/or shallower grooves and different belt designs in order to prevent over-heating the tire at high speeds. High speed tires also usually require more speed and effort just to get up to "operating temperature" where their grip becomes optimal. So while high speed tires are a requirement for vehicles traveling at high speeds for more than a few minutes, they are also a liability at lower speeds and in colder weather. It should also be pointed out that the harder rubber is even more difficult to get to operating temperature in wet conditions, generally speaking. Getting good wet performance is more a matter of tire construction and chemistry than it is hardness, and there's nothing about a Z rated tire that makes it good in the wet or that even makes it good for anything except traveling at high speed without risk of failure.

Drive safely...

-Brad

 

[darkguset]

Let's see, you seem to have SATA 2 Hard disks! Now that is an irony isn't it?

They are SATA 1 ...

And what about your 64bit CPU?

Is this even in question? No. Does it provide me any benefit, no. Did I buy it for 64 bit, no. Am I even using 64 bit, no. Will it last until I use 64 bit, No. Why did I buy it.... because it spanked Intel's offering at the time.

There are no benefits, but you still opted for the futureproof hardware.

No such thing, nor do I ever plan to future proof my rig. I build it to last 2 years, that is it. Then a complete rebuild. Don't speak to motives you don't know or understand.

Not to mention the tyres of 99% of the cars that run around the world. The maximum speed limit is 165km/h for a typical cheap set of tyres, yet nobody buys them, you all opt for something like 180km/h or even 200km/h.Now when are going to drive that fast? Probably never and nowhere, but you still go for that "theoretical" value.

The faster tires have softer rubber and therefore more grip. I use that grip on a daily basis. I also have been ticketed for going 135mph, so yes I do use my $1000 tires. Nice try. I live in Texas, plenty of room to hit 120-130. Just because you are too scared to drive that fast doesn't mean others don't. There is nothing theoretical about the value of the Z rated tires. Let's see how great you "value" tires hold up in cornering, hard acceleration, and wet weather.

Not to mention another billion things in your everyday life (HD tvs, although only 2-3 stations broadcast true HD signals) etc etc etc...

Don't own any useless crap like that. I don't buy useless crap. Keep trying, you're bound to get one right.

So cut the crap and admit that YES a newer better technology is better wether you like it or not and yes you buy it despite the fact that you are trying to prove that it offers no better performance in the real world.

Spell check works wonders. It is newer, I agree, but to warrant the use of the term "better" it must show some sort of end user experience improvement and it doesn't. Therefore, it is purely theoretical. What can I do with a paper performance increase? Eat it for lunch and save $5?

To conclude the differences between the theretical and practical values i will give you a very simple example: The Core 2 Duo's memory bandwidth is much smaller than the RAM's bandwidth at their maximum official speeds. Hence any kind of overclock on the CPU FSB would gain no benefits at all since the RAM bandwidth will never get saturated (not until huge speeds - impossible at the moment) are achieved. Well surprise surprise it does actually benefit on every single benchmark that is on the internet. Now go and convince 100000000 million people that that is not the case.
Good luck!

Again spell check. You are talking purely bandwidth and leaving out frequency... The FSB is the communication between the memory controller linked to the north bridge and the CPU core. Therefore, if the speed of the communication path increases, the data travels faster. Now, whether that translates into a end user performance gains depends on the application. RAM intensive files, like compression obviously benefit, but ripping CD's doesn't gain anything. Bandwidth is the potential total memory throughput, not the actual throughput. Get your head out of the white paper and into reality.

You were booked for doing 135mph and you call me a chicken? I call you an absolute idiot. Who quilified you for doing that speed on the roads? NASA? LOL, only test pilots would be going that fast and definately on the streets. You are probably one of those idiots that kill other people, or even worse get killed themselves and then ask for the police and ambulances to run on the spot to save their asses. From that part alone i can understand the kind of person you are!
Have a nice weekend!

 

[SuperFly03]

The faster tires have softer rubber and therefore more grip. I use that grip on a daily basis. I also have been ticketed for going 135mph, so yes I do use my $1000 tires. Nice try. I live in Texas, plenty of room to hit 120-130. Just because you are too scared to drive that fast doesn't mean others don't. There is nothing theoretical about the value of the Z rated tires. Let's see how great you "value" tires hold up in cornering, hard acceleration, and wet weather.

You were doing great until you got to this. Faster tires actually have harder rubber and/or shallower grooves and different belt designs in order to prevent over-heating the tire at high speeds. High speed tires also usually require more speed and effort just to get up to "operating temperature" where their grip becomes optimal. So while high speed tires are a requirement for vehicles traveling at high speeds for more than a few minutes, they are also a liability at lower speeds and in colder weather. It should also be pointed out that the harder rubber is even more difficult to get to operating temperature in wet conditions, generally speaking. Getting good wet performance is more a matter of tire construction and chemistry than it is hardness, and there's nothing about a Z rated tire that makes it good in the wet or that even makes it good for anything except traveling at high speed without risk of failure.

Drive safely...

-Brad

Tire physics

The amount of traction a tire can deliver depends on a large number of factors:

* The construction of the tire affects its effective traction - stiff-walled tires (such as run flat tires) behave differently from those with more flexible side-walls.
* The type of surface that the tire is on (wet or dry road, concrete, asphalt, dirt, sand, etc). The coefficient of friction for normal road tires varies between about 0.7 and 0.4 on dry and wet pavement, respectively.
* The kind of rubber it is made from - the composition of the tread compounds. Soft rubber molds to the shape of small undulations in the road better than harder compounds and therefore grips better. However, soft rubber also wears out more rapidly than hard rubber so there is a difficult compromise to be made in designing the ideal rubber for a particular application.

Source

Argue with Wikipedia.... softer rubber = more forming to the ground, more grip, faster wear, and more expensive.

Hard rubber tires are the stuff you find stock on Honda Civic's. Just touching the tires on, say, a G35 Coupe and Civic you can tell the difference in the rubber.

 

[SuperFly03]

You were booked for doing 135mph and you call me a chicken? I call you an absolute idiot. Who quilified you for doing that speed on the roads? NASA? LOL, only test pilots would be going that fast and definately on the streets. You are probably one of those idiots that kill other people, or even worse get killed themselves and then ask for the police and ambulances to run on the spot to save their asses. From that part alone i can understand the kind of person you are!
Have a nice weekend!

Who certified that people are only capable of driving 70mph? So, I am an idiot because I can handle a car at 135? That makes perfect sense... oh no wait, it doesn't. Driving at that speed is a learned skill. Some people can do it, others can't. The lawmakers just had to make a compromise and choose a speed they think everyone can handle, and that max seems to be 70mph in most places. The problem is there are tons of people who shouldn't be allowed over 30mph because they are such timid drivers and hesitate, and that is what causes as many problems as people driving faster than their capabilities.

 

[bberson]

The faster tires have softer rubber and therefore more grip. [...] There is nothing theoretical about the value of the Z rated tires. Let's see how great you "value" tires hold up in cornering, hard acceleration, and wet weather.

Faster tires actually have harder rubber and/or shallower grooves and different belt designs in order to prevent over-heating the tire at high speeds. High speed tires also usually require more speed and effort just to get up to "operating temperature" [...] and there's nothing about a Z rated tire that makes it good in the wet or that even makes it good for anything except traveling at high speed without risk of failure.
* The kind of rubber it is made from - the composition of the tread compounds. Soft rubber molds to the shape of small undulations in the road better than harder compounds and therefore grips better. However, soft rubber also wears out more rapidly than hard rubber so there is a difficult compromise to be made in designing the ideal rubber for a particular application.
Source
Argue with Wikipedia.... softer rubber = more forming to the ground, more grip, faster wear, and more expensive.
Hard rubber tires are the stuff you find stock on Honda Civic's. Just touching the tires on, say, a G35 Coupe and Civic you can tell the difference in the rubber.
No need for me to argue with the Wiki, it doesn't say anything that disagrees with me or with reality. You've drawn a conclusion that a Z rating ("faster tire") translates to quality (versus "value") and therefore offers more traction. It does not. It absolutely, positively does not directly correlate and for your own safety, heaven help you, and the safety of those around you, you really do need to understand this before you write a check your tires can't cash.

It's one thing to read the Wiki but it's something else to understand it without trying to infuse your heart-held misconceptions into what you read.

And while we're straying from the subject let me add something else to save your ass - the use of rubber shine or protectants on your tires. Don't use the stuff. You don't need to protect your tire sidewalls unless you're a granny who only drives five blocks a week, and that crap is slicker 'n snot, so when you're hard into a corner or performing serious evasive maneuvers, and your wheel begins to camber out and the tire begins to roll under and that nice shiny sidewall hits the road surface, you can kiss all your precious Z-rated traction good-bye.

-Brad

 

[SuperFly03]

You are right, the rating itself doesn't imply quality. However, the tires I buy use a very soft rubber that wears down relatively quick, but handles quite well. The tread pattern is very aggressive and isn't entirely optimized for wet weather, but that isn't it's primary focus. It is more common to find soft rubber on Z rated tires, but one doesn't necessarily imply the other, good point.

--Side note: I never shine my tires, too lazy, although I am no stranger to fish tailing.... one of the more fun events while driving lol. I understand exactly what you are saying and I agree. Shine is for show, not performance. That is a good point.