Is Windows 7 better Then Windows Vista

[croc]

In five years? Is that so? What a comment to make and say that XP is "dying". I'd say that it's doing quite well. I guess when I said that XP was going to be around for quite a while I was correct. Again, exaggerating the debate. Let's put it this way, people are still trying to get 2000 to work with updated drivers and programs. 98 is out of the question. As for why companies and buisnesses still use it, I'm sure they have their reasons.

Your last post refers to what? Or did you make an ass out of yourself by assuming this?

Your point is?

Let me just ask you flat out. Give me REASONS why a person would want to use Vista? Except for hype and eye candy which I actually am for the people who bought it for this reason and can live with the downside of it. Also, perhaps maybe very serious gamers, which those people are limited anyway. Most normal gamers benefit from better hardware. As for me, I couldn't stand it.

XP is already EOL for service packs, in 2014 it will be EOL for any updates. Won't matter to you, as you don't need any of those services... But I consult to medium / large graphics and CAD houses. My clients need 64 bit support, and also driver support for newer products. One of my CAD customers recently dropped 500k AUD on a laser plotter. No support in XP, so I made a few bickies upgrading all of their workstations to Vista x64, and dropped in a new server 2008 just to handle the plotter spools. Estimated payback in six months... Recently upgraded another customer with ten new workstations to replace their many years old Intergraph stations. They were tired of a lack of any vendor support. Graphics houses are replacing G4's and G5's as fast as they can depreciate them off of their books. Why? Apple no longer provides decent support for Maya and CS4 on these older workstations.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Another insult, and no facts.
If you can, answer my questions I put to you above, if you cant, check my link earlier

Look, you said "think" or "I think". Thats simply an opinion. You want facts as do I. Answer my questions with facts

 

[croc]

@jaydeejohn

That debate has already been discussed. Isn't Intel making a dual core i5/i3? LOL!

@croc

Okay... Your telling me you couldn't find no support for that product? Sounds like you wanted to make more money by installing Vista 64. But hey, buisness is buisness. Link anyways, please.

Also, I never mentioned specialized professional app users.

You now want professional advice from me? OK, I charge 500 AUD an hour, I'll have my lawyer draw up a contract. Please send me your lawyer's details so we can finalize this arrangement. You want me to provide you with commercial-in-confidence details of some of my customers? Croc laughs. Silly, inexperienced wee tad...

I asked before, what is your MS cert. #? You do realise, if you are doing business, that this whole thread could be used by MS in an anti-trust suit, right?

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

And theyre also making i9 or whatever the hex cores will be called, and will be on the market in 6 months time. Theyll have 12 core functionality. So by default, xp becomes a mid range OS, as also its inability with the 32 bit instruction set to use more demanding apps, or games, for that matter.
These are all chinks showing up in xps armor, and theres more and more all the time. To discount the problems of adopting these new ways, and carry the old OS is an eventual dead end.
Ill go over some of whats been said to clarify things.
When Vista came out, it carried with it the DRM issue, and having to have a different kernel. This caused any app that wasnt updated to this a failure, and since the writers of thse apps had a OS that was unchanged for a longer period than any other ever seen before, werent up to task, as seen by the incompatibilities which are now fixed in Vista. Now, as has been shown by quite a few links, this is a common scenario for a new OS, and even moreso because of the scenario I just described.
Placing the blame at the OS' feet can only be half the problem ever anyways, as its the apps makers resposibilty to make compliant SW, or HW, as in Vista case, so dramitic was its change, again, mainly due to DRM issues.
Its really as simple as that, and nothings change but change itself.
Id point out, nVidia wasnt fully DX10 compliant, thus the need for DX10.1, which was in the original DX10 model, but later pulled, not because of Vista, but because of HW non compliance, and the investments there are huge, and arent simply rewritable like SW. So, even HW has had its goes with Vista, but again, I point out, it wasnt M$, or Vistas fault, as seen by ATIs compliant HW, but nVidias fault. And if you really check into all these "problems" for Vista, whether its HW or SW, the path almost always leads to the HW/SW makers, just as weve seen in the past with the adoption of any new OS

 

[croc]

I didn't ask for advice. I am obviously indirectly challenging your buisness ethics practices. This happens on a daily basis, so don't feed me your BS. But that's okay, the six months you talked about is those people kicking you in the ass (so to speak, figure of speech) for updating a whole system when all they needed was for the provider to do a little research. Sure it might not be in the way your thinking which is money. But they do have something called Karma if you believe in such things. Like I said, Buisness is buisness, KNOWN FACT.

I simply was curious on what type of product doesn't have XP support. Where did I ask for advice? I ask for your opinion on Vista perhaps, but isn't this a computer forum? I didn't ask about your customers. Your assuming too much and now you have made an ass out of yourself.

Also, where am I doing buisness? It's okay dude, this is called a computer forum. It's where people discuss things about computers okay?

I save a company enough man-hours by replacing ten pen plotters with one laser plotter and the whole project ends up paying for itself in 6 months... And you question my business ethics? The company involved also did... I didn't charge enough by half, so they got me a case of the latest release of Grange.

And they got a turnkey solution all around. WS support, server support, and laser support all 24 x 7 and all free for one year. Yeah, I really do have bad business ethics. But I do have happy customers.

 

[croc]

Do you believe in fairy tales?

Yes! And Santa, the Easter Bunny, all of them!

But they don't pay the bills...

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

I think Im done, no I am done

 

[croc]

I think Im done, no I am done

Yep, me as well. Habitat 'wins' by default, having proved to be the most ignorant poster I've ever seen since the Baron tried to argue that Styrofoam was a good place to store your CPU...

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Good ol Baron, sure lived up to his namesake, BM

 

[Homeboy2]

It's always great to see when people go to extremes and exaggerate things in a debate. This usually means their feelings are hurt or they feel they have lost something, but the results are, a smart person learns from it, a moron (a real retard) doesn't.

I'm out of here...

Attention ladies and gentlemen, the moron has left the building

 

[randomizer]

This thread has well and truly run its course.