[SOLVED] Issues with hard drives after restting and updating

KarRuptAssassin

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Hey guys, so I just bought an RX 580 so I decided to nuke my windows 10 and start a new with a fresh windows 10 install. So, I installed the RX 580 and a 7-port USB 3.0 internal card I got, shut down the computer, unplugged my storage space drives (and color-coded the cords so I wouldn't mix them up when I plugged them back in) booted it back up into troubleshooting mode, reset windows 10, completely reinstalled it, overclocked my 580 and installed drivers, then shut it all back down, plugged the drives back in, and started it all back up once again. The storage space is there, it reads pretty much everything, but it is now SLOW AS HELL.

Drives are having connection latency issues, spanning from 0ms to 9000ms, whole folders won't load entirely, I honestly have no idea what's going on.

I ran some troubleshooting, saw one of my drives was corrupted, restarted to fix it, now the drive is showing up as fine, but I'm still having all of these issues. DISM returned nothing, chkdsk returned nothing, I'm currently running a wd data lifeguard check for the hell of it since the pool is 3 3tb wd drives in a simple pool for storage of my stupidly large steam library.

I honestly have no idea what's going on at this point, I'm thinking I should just reinstall windows 10 again and hope for the best.

Specs in case they're important:

Windows 10 update 1803
RX 580
i7-4790k
16gb ddr3-1866 memory
240gb SanDisk SSD for os
V - storage space - V
2 - Seagate 3TB Desktop HDD SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive (ST3000DM001)
1 - WD blue 3tb 5400 RPM Class, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64 MB Cache, 3.5" - WD30EZRZ

really anything helps at this point
 
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Alright, fair enough. Thank god i have a laptop because the desktop is probably going to be out of commission for the next few days because of this lmao. Is there any programs/ways better than Teracopy for moving giant chunks of data?

Not really, your limits are physical hardware not software. With that much data its time to bite the bullet.

I mean it IS games so you could just try and break the array and then oh well time to download again if something goes wrong. If nothing goes wrong - profit! Not like you're losing your wedding photos. Just back up anything irreplaceable and gamble with the rest.

Colif

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what motherboard do you have?

Storage spaces are software raid, as you know. There isn't a lot out there on re using a pool after a fresh install. Might need to create a new one, but i dig a bit more and see what I can find.
 

KarRuptAssassin

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what motherboard do you have?

it is an MSI - Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard

I wouldn't have any problems about breaking it up and putting it back together but ive got some 5.6tb of stuff on there at the moment and id rather not have to redownload all of that lmao. I suppose I could remove a drive and put all of that onto the other two, re add it, move half of it to that drive, then just kinda step my way out of that pool and into a new one, but id rather not risk losing stuff in that move, also that'd take ages.
 

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Attempting to mess with it some more i realized that my other 1tb backup drive has absolutely no problems with loading anything. All of my problems are based on that one storage pool

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Colif

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I can understand not wanting to dl 5tb of games again.

did you reinstall drivers from the msi web site? it could be a sata driver issue or something as simple as that.

I get some other eyes on this as not used storage spaces myself.
 

Colif

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reset windows 10, completely reinstalled it,

So did you wipe hdd or just reset as they sort of similar but one is more complete. if you had clean installed PC, there would be no memory of the pool existing on PC at all. . Resets just touch C drive so if you kept files/settings it would have a memory of the pool in the registry.. so that is what I assume you did.
 

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You know, i didnt think about that to be honest. Im gonna go try and make sure ive got everything up to date on it. Ive been running a wd lifeguard test for the last 5 hours or so and its found absolutely nothing
 

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I honestly have no idea anymore. I updated all my drivers.
 

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Are the drives resynching? Go into Computer management and then Disk Manager and it will say "Resynching" on the partitions. If they are it totally demolishes performance. Thats why Storage spaces sucks TBH. Every little thing the drives will need to Resync, it takes hours upon hours, and drags them down so slow it causes major performance issues.
 

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It doesn't say anything about resyncing. Is there any way to force it to get it to sync again?

So for both drive partitions it says "Healthy"?

You don't want it to Sync again that actually makes it slower.

I stopped using storage spaces because its implementation in Windows 10 sucks. Its fine for a data drive, but running applications off of it is untenable, it continually needs to resync for the littlest issue, and forget it if you have a crash it takes hours to resync dragging performance forever and going even slower if you're using the drive.
 

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Yeah looks fine. Still like I said storage spaces is buggy and I'm not surprised its giving you issues.

I think if you break the array you'll lose your data, check the warnings if you try. Otherwise I don't think reinstalling windows will help you, bailing on Storage spaces will. Maybe time to just back up the data, or bite the bullet break the array, and redownload your games to individual drives.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12438/windows-10-storage-spaces
 

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I know that when i remove a drive from the pool, it'll shift the data onto the other two drives, but im not entirely sure if doing that would allow for me to just keep shifting things back and forth, and how much data would be lost in the progress. I have a 4tb external I could use to help offload some of it, but im still not entirely sure where to go with it at this point.
 

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I know that when i remove a drive from the pool, it'll shift the data onto the other two drives, but im not entirely sure if doing that would allow for me to just keep shifting things back and forth, and how much data would be lost in the progress. I have a 4tb external I could use to help offload some of it, but im still not entirely sure where to go with it at this point.

Thats what I would do, break the storage array and rebuild it new or just use the drives individually. Even though it says healthy either its having synch issues or one of your drives is failing. If you run the drives individually you will know if one is dragging.
 

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Alright, fair enough. Thank god i have a laptop because the desktop is probably going to be out of commission for the next few days because of this lmao. Is there any programs/ways better than Teracopy for moving giant chunks of data?
 

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Alright, fair enough. Thank god i have a laptop because the desktop is probably going to be out of commission for the next few days because of this lmao. Is there any programs/ways better than Teracopy for moving giant chunks of data?

Not really, your limits are physical hardware not software. With that much data its time to bite the bullet.

I mean it IS games so you could just try and break the array and then oh well time to download again if something goes wrong. If nothing goes wrong - profit! Not like you're losing your wedding photos. Just back up anything irreplaceable and gamble with the rest.
 
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Colif

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if its steam games you can always move some of them into another folder on another drive, but obviously not all 5.1tb at once.

if you removed one drive from the 8tb storage space and added it to the 1tb storage space, you might have the space needed to survive breaking the big one.
 

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if its steam games you can always move some of them into another folder on another drive, but obviously not all 5.1tb at once.

if you removed one drive from the 8tb storage space and added it to the 1tb storage space, you might have the space needed to survive breaking the big one.

I have a 4tb usb 3.0 external that i was using with my xbox one, ive just decided to format that and try moving everything to it in order to back up all of the stuff that I cant just redownload, but ill probably wind up annoying my ISP anyways :rolleyes: