ite raid controller extremely slow in 7n400 pro2 rev2

Ale

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Excuse for my poor english...
I have noticed that when i try to read from my two maxtor 60 gb in raid 0
the value sounded normal (70-80 mb/s) but when i'm trying to write in that
discs the value il really really poor...like an ata 33 hd...does anyone know
about this problem??
I'm using win xp pro with the latest raid drivers....but if this is normal
for this motherboard i will sold it almost now!!
It's impossible to use the raid in this way....
CAn someone help me??
Thanks!!
 
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Ali,

What are Maxtor the model numbers for the drives?
What is your test software.
Are you on the GigaRAID (PATA) ports or the SATA ports?
I use the Rev 1 board and both he serial and the Parallel RAID ports read
very fast ( in the 90 mb/s range). I do not check the write speeds as I
don't have a tester that I trust that will do it
Testing these arrays can be a problem.

Jim

PS-If you think your English is bad you should see my Italian

"Ale" <aleturNoSpam@aliceposta.it> wrote in message
news:cYUEc.401616$hc5.17303374@news3.tin.it...
> Excuse for my poor english...
> I have noticed that when i try to read from my two maxtor 60 gb in raid 0
> the value sounded normal (70-80 mb/s) but when i'm trying to write in that
> discs the value il really really poor...like an ata 33 hd...does anyone
know
> about this problem??
> I'm using win xp pro with the latest raid drivers....but if this is normal
> for this motherboard i will sold it almost now!!
> It's impossible to use the raid in this way....
> CAn someone help me??
> Thanks!!
>
>
 
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"Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Check for driver updates at the ITE web site.
> They have produced some new drivers a while back that are reported to
> "solve" the performance problems. I don't use mine so can't confirm.
> Check that you do not have discs pugged into Master and Slave on the same
> cable - this will kill performance (read and write) so doesn't sound like
> the cause.
>
> - Tim

The discs are plugged in two different cables as masters...
the official page is this:
http://www.ite.com.tw/productInfo/Download.html#Software%20Support

Can i change the bios of the controller if it is inside the mainboard??
 
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"Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Check for driver updates at the ITE web site.
> They have produced some new drivers a while back that are reported to
> "solve" the performance problems.

I've tried the latest v1.7.1.9 drivers but the situation is the same...and
the flash utility don't recognize the controller as IT8212....i think
because it is the it8212F implemented in the mb...
Suggestions??
 
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The ITE firmware will be part of the motherboard bios, so check your bios
version.

The ITE Drivers are separate and on the web site you referred to somewhere.

You may only see the performance boost when a matched bios / firmware /
driver is installed.

- Tim



"Ale" <aleturNoSpam@aliceposta.it> wrote in message
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>
> "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:cc28ia$57f$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> Check for driver updates at the ITE web site.
>> They have produced some new drivers a while back that are reported to
>> "solve" the performance problems.
>
> I've tried the latest v1.7.1.9 drivers but the situation is the same...and
> the flash utility don't recognize the controller as IT8212....i think
> because it is the it8212F implemented in the mb...
> Suggestions??
>
>
 
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"Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> The ITE firmware will be part of the motherboard bios, so check your bios
> version.
>
> The ITE Drivers are separate and on the web site you referred to
somewhere.
>
> You may only see the performance boost when a matched bios / firmware /
> driver is installed.
>
> - Tim

Thanks, i have already the latest bios for my mb...
Now i'm thinking to delete my raid and use the normal ata controller....
:-(
This is something very annoing for me, a bad point for gigabyte...
 
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Well, it turns out that this is not a RAID problem but a file copy problem.
When copy /paste is used, both read and write buffering come into play and
things slow down.

The 'move' command is faster.

JPS


"Ale" <aleturNoSpam@aliceposta.it> wrote in message
news:cYUEc.401616$hc5.17303374@news3.tin.it...
> Excuse for my poor english...
> I have noticed that when i try to read from my two maxtor 60 gb in raid 0
> the value sounded normal (70-80 mb/s) but when i'm trying to write in that
> discs the value il really really poor...like an ata 33 hd...does anyone
know
> about this problem??
> I'm using win xp pro with the latest raid drivers....but if this is normal
> for this motherboard i will sold it almost now!!
> It's impossible to use the raid in this way....
> CAn someone help me??
> Thanks!!
>
>
 
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"jpsga" <jpsga@comcast.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Well, it turns out that this is not a RAID problem but a file copy
problem.
> When copy /paste is used, both read and write buffering come into play and
> things slow down.
>
> The 'move' command is faster.
>
> JPS

But when i'm for example decompressing a file .rar of 50 megab.of mp3s the
all operation takes about 1 minute...when i used the raid with my old 7vaxp
ultra with the promise controller the operation takes 15 seconds with my
discs..the file is so stupid to decompress..so it's a controller
problem..and in italy i've found a lot of people with this problem..no one
has a solution..
Now i have found an external raid card with the ITE 8212F chip...i wanna see
if with an external card the situation is the same or not..
Stay tuned next week..
Bye
 
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Some decompression programs (EG winzip) use a not very intelligent method of
decompression:

They decompress to Temp directory then *copy* to the directory you indicate
so you have 3 times the amount of disc IO's needed to do the operation.
(Winzip does this and its a royal pain with multi GB files - in fact I had
to ditch it cos it could not produce zips > 2Gb, version 9 addressed this
problem too late).

- Tim




"Ale" <aleturNoSpam@aliceposta.it> wrote in message
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>
> "jpsga" <jpsga@comcast.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:65SFc.22616$XM6.12305@attbi_s53...
>> Well, it turns out that this is not a RAID problem but a file copy
> problem.
>> When copy /paste is used, both read and write buffering come into play
>> and
>> things slow down.
>>
>> The 'move' command is faster.
>>
>> JPS
>
> But when i'm for example decompressing a file .rar of 50 megab.of mp3s the
> all operation takes about 1 minute...when i used the raid with my old
> 7vaxp
> ultra with the promise controller the operation takes 15 seconds with my
> discs..the file is so stupid to decompress..so it's a controller
> problem..and in italy i've found a lot of people with this problem..no one
> has a solution..
> Now i have found an external raid card with the ITE 8212F chip...i wanna
> see
> if with an external card the situation is the same or not..
> Stay tuned next week..
> Bye
>
>
 
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"Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Some decompression programs (EG winzip) use a not very intelligent method
of
> decompression:
>
> They decompress to Temp directory then *copy* to the directory you
indicate
> so you have 3 times the amount of disc IO's needed to do the operation.
> (Winzip does this and its a royal pain with multi GB files - in fact I had
> to ditch it cos it could not produce zips > 2Gb, version 9 addressed this
> problem too late).
>
> - Tim

This is exactly what makes winrar...but the question is : why the promise
use 15 seconds and ite 1 minute??there is something that i can't
understand...
Does anyone knows this page??
http://underclock.rocks.it/
 
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even flashing the bios of the ite controller the situation is the
same..there is no solution..i've tried everything ...even modifing the bios
of the mb...
bye bye ite raid ....bllleeeaaahhhh!!!
 
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"Ale" <aleturNoSpam@aliceposta.it> wrote in message
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> even flashing the bios of the ite controller the situation is the
> same..there is no solution..i've tried everything ...even modifing the
> bios
> of the mb...
> bye bye ite raid ....bllleeeaaahhhh!!!
>
>

How do you flash the ITE controller BIOS?
 
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"Richard Dower" <richarddower@hotmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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>
> "Ale" <aleturNoSpam@aliceposta.it> wrote in message
> news:6I9Hc.7574$tj3.381191@news3.tin.it...
> > even flashing the bios of the ite controller the situation is the
> > same..there is no solution..i've tried everything ...even modifing the
> > bios
> > of the mb...
> > bye bye ite raid ....bllleeeaaahhhh!!!
> >
> >
>
> How do you flash the ITE controller BIOS?
>

🙂 Inside the mb bios there's the old ite bios (45k)...i've replaced that
bios with the newer one that i've found on the ite home page...for raid the
1.7.1.92 bios exactly...
Wanna try??
 
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"Ale" <aleturNoSpam@aliceposta.it> wrote in message
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>
> "Richard Dower" <richarddower@hotmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:ccjolu$lee$1@kermit.esat.net...
>>
>> "Ale" <aleturNoSpam@aliceposta.it> wrote in message
>> news:6I9Hc.7574$tj3.381191@news3.tin.it...
>> > even flashing the bios of the ite controller the situation is the
>> > same..there is no solution..i've tried everything ...even modifing the
>> > bios
>> > of the mb...
>> > bye bye ite raid ....bllleeeaaahhhh!!!
>> >
>> >
>>
>> How do you flash the ITE controller BIOS?
>>
>
> 🙂 Inside the mb bios there's the old ite bios (45k)...i've replaced that
> bios with the newer one that i've found on the ite home page...for raid
> the
> 1.7.1.92 bios exactly...
> Wanna try??
>
>

I've downloaded the latest BIOs from the website, but how do you actually
flash the ITE BIOS?

I also have the ITE controller disabled, it dosen't appear during POST. So
would i have to enable it first to flash it?
 
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>
> I've downloaded the latest BIOs from the website, but how do you actually
> flash the ITE BIOS?
>
> I also have the ITE controller disabled, it dosen't appear during POST. So
> would i have to enable it first to flash it?

Yes ..first enable the controller....then try with a boot diskette with the
iteflash utility inside...but in this way i can't flash the ite bios
already..for me the only way was the modification of the gigabyte official
bios...an easy operation.. 🙂
 
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Hi,

I doubt your method would work. You would need to take the mobo bios, rip
out the existing ite component and replace it. The bios update program for
8KNXP seems to incorporate the bios editing functions - this is risky - you
need to know what you are doing and be able to recover the bios if you stuff
it. EG you will need a bios recovery method of some sort.

Of course, I could be wrong about this - seeing as I have never done it.
Perhaps go to one of the Uber Bios sites and research there.

- Tim



"Ale" <aleturNoSpam@aliceposta.it> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> I've downloaded the latest BIOs from the website, but how do you actually
>> flash the ITE BIOS?
>>
>> I also have the ITE controller disabled, it dosen't appear during POST.
>> So
>> would i have to enable it first to flash it?
>
> Yes ..first enable the controller....then try with a boot diskette with
> the
> iteflash utility inside...but in this way i can't flash the ite bios
> already..for me the only way was the modification of the gigabyte official
> bios...an easy operation.. 🙂
>
>
 
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"Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Hi,
>
> I doubt your method would work. You would need to take the mobo bios, rip
> out the existing ite component and replace it. The bios update program for
> 8KNXP seems to incorporate the bios editing functions - this is risky -
you
> need to know what you are doing and be able to recover the bios if you
stuff
> it. EG you will need a bios recovery method of some sort.
>
> Of course, I could be wrong about this - seeing as I have never done it.
> Perhaps go to one of the Uber Bios sites and research there.
>
> - Tim

My bios mod works perfectly...but the operation is useless..the controller
is awful..
For programming the bios i use a program (awdedit if i remember correctly)
that replaces the parts automatically..
And about the risks..we have 2 bios installed in the mb...if one don't
works..the other is available...now i use the official bios ff not
modified..because my mod was useless :-(
 

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