Just got a 3800 X2, not impressed, am i doing something wrng

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well, it depends on the ms response time, and the actual speed. Having a 10,000 RPM HDD in there is much faster than having a RAID. THG has done research on this. I don't know that that's causing a problem, I'm just guessing it may be. I myself run a SATA 7200RPM 80GB, with an Intel P4 3.0Ghz... runs very fast.
 
You should notice a small performance boost if you go to a low latency ram. I used to run the same ram you are running and went to OCZ el platinum. I love it, its fast and very stable. You will see an improvement in your cpu scores in most benchmarks. I just upgraded again to the 2x 1gig OCZ and am very pleased with it as well. Because of AMD's integrated memory controller it really takes full use of fast ram, the faster the better. You will start to see the benefits of your upgrade over the next year or so. As games and software start to make use of dual processors. Windows Vista will make excellent use of it as well which will be out towards the end of the year. If your wondering what your current ram is running at you can download cpuz, its free and it works great. It will tell you all your ram vital info.


3500+ winny stock speed
MSI NEO 4 SLI Plat
2gigs OCZ EL Plat 2.2.3.5.1T
1x BFG 7800GT OC 470/1200
74gig Raptor
36gig Raptor
500 Ultra PSU

3dmark05 score 8025
 
thats a surprise to me, im just building a new system and will take ur thoughts into account, multi core software just around the corner, that will make the diff. u will see and feel. :!:
 
thats a surprise to me, im just building a new system and will take ur thoughts into account, multi core software just around the corner, that will make the diff. u will see and feel. :!:
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I have been hearing around the corner for six months
i TO am depressed on my 3800x2 i upgraded from a sckt478 p4 3.0Ghz ht and its not any faster still takes the same time to run norton av ,maybe few seconds faster. Quake 4 runs better but i attribute that 2 my new 7800gt
i just bought a pcie mobo for my p4 and will compare, i guess i will look for some low latency ram before i compare.
 
i read something in toms or other that said to stick to the low range of a new platform and put the x bucks in graphics seems to be right now. i cant decide to go for the build now or wait fo m2. awash in pros and cons :)
 
cheetsy , did/have you tried to overclock yet? I have/will not, Thats what alot of people are telling me to do. I am just thinking of returning my 3800x2 to fry's ( i still have 10 days left and going with a single amd 4000+)
 
If you are primarily a gamer, stay with sigle core. If you are a normal user, stay with single core. Dont go dual core because you have 9 or 10 I.E windows open. Dont even go dual core if you want to skype while you game.
If you use dual core progs, like photoshop all the time, go dual core.
If you want a "download complete" message, in game, go dual core.
If you want to use the console version of F@H, go dual core. If you want to encode a DVD, while coverting mp3 files, get a dual core.
But remember, if you dont do the dual core stuff all the time, it may not be worth the extra cost. Most people would probably be better off just using thier old computer to do secondary tasks.
 
yeah i want low latency ram and i want raptors, but when i asked about raptors, through my wife (im a brit living in taiwan and i dont speak chinese) the man (not my wife, shes a woman) laughed at me and said they were too expensive, i mean thats just one shop ofcourse but it seems to be the same everywhere, i mean, they do earn 50 pence an hour at KFC so i dont suppose many taiwanese people buy low latency ram or raptors lol. but yeah i dont use my pc for encoding any more or anything like that, i wouldnt know how to use photoshop as much as i would like to, im an occasional gamer and a regular internet user, and downloader, i often download many files at the same time, ie BT or Limewire, but thats about it, somebody told me that a dual core combined with my 7800gt would give me around a 20 percent FPS boost on games because the compatible nvidia drivers palm off some of the work to the second cpu core, but, havent really played any games yet to see.


In response to IcBlUsCrn (damn you for your pain in the ass to type name!! jk 😛 ) I havent tried overclocking yet, just didnt want to cause any problems with my ram, is there a special way of doing it, i mean, do i say, drop the fsb so i can ramp up the cas latency or however it works? the last thing i over clocked was a barton 2500 and that went up to 3000 cos was the same voltage etc so was easy to do, no extra heat, no messing with the fsb. or did i take it up to 2800? hmm
 
the only way u see a difference is when u multi task... if ur not a multi tasker u wont see any thing different but, if ur like me I can compress a dvd with dvd rebuilder on one core and also play call of duty 2 and surf the web all at the same time... but u need 2 gigs of ram to be able to do all of those things
 
Just upgraded from a venice 64 3000 to a 3800 X2, and to be honest, i havent really noticed any difference, ive done a clean install of windows etc, but its just some of the things people wrote about it in other posts, like about doing 2 things at once etc, well according to the task manager bit when im doing anything both cores are apparently working just as hard and i cant really see any difference, i dont know, maybe im expecting too much, or maybe ive not set something up? Is the Kingston Value Ram seriously letting it down?

Is there anything you other X2 users had to do to windows to get the full advantages from the X2?


thanks in advance


cheetsy
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Ive also got a 3800+ x 2!!!!

If anything when running in XP (home or Pro) Its worse perfomance than a single core! The problem is not purely due to AMD x 2. Its to do with XP - and applications that are not coded to run on two - TRUE CPUs.

In Intels Hyper Threading, single threaded apps just default to single core threads. In a CPU with two true cores, single threaded applications can go off and "lose their way." With the result in that perfomance can suffer.

Heres one MS article:

http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?id=896256

The AMD forum link is http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=64936
 
also make sure u have the x2 patch from amd site and also get the dual core fix from ms site also that help out alot with the performace issues... just remember single cores are dead this time next year we will be at quad cores from both amd and intell

i know my typing is bad lol but its 4am and baby just got up and I just so happend to check my e-mails :)
 
grrr i so should of stuck with single core, i mean when am i ever going to rip and dvd and play games lol, damn it!!! thanks for the article links!
 
the only patch i could find was the one that sorts out all the power throttling and i believe the ms one refers to the same

sorry to hear bout ya kid lol, me and my new wife are hopefully 2yrs away from a child, but we will see!
 
grrr i so should of stuck with single core, i mean when am i ever going to rip and dvd and play games lol, damn it!!! thanks for the article links!
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I did not plan to go Dual core. It was purely the fault of the supplier who could not deliver me a straight 3200 AMD 64!!!

So, in despiration and anger, I went and splashed out on a 3800+ x2 - which was not a good idea.....since I spent since Nov 2005 - sufferring from frame lagg! So I put my self in for a nightmarish time.

I changed - PSU, Mobo, HDD and even sold me GT 6600 and settled for just 1 PCIE card. Many, many, many reinstalls and Ghostings and a new copy of XP home - genuine.....turns out the prob is this ..........arrrgg! So I know .... I know .... how you feel.

PS....my machine is running great now!!!! Whoo hoo - flying machine!!! Im just waiting for the multithreaded s/w next year.... maybe.
 
grrr i so should of stuck with single core, i mean when am i ever going to rip and dvd and play games lol, damn it!!! thanks for the article links!
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I did not plan to go Dual core. It was purely the fault of the supplier who could not deliver me a straight 3200 AMD 64!!!

So, in despiration and anger, I went and splashed out on a 3800+ x2 - which was not a good idea.....since I spent since Nov 2005 - sufferring from frame lagg! So I put my self in for a nightmarish time.

I changed - PSU, Mobo, HDD and even sold me GT 6600 and settled for just 1 PCIE card. Many, many, many reinstalls and Ghostings and a new copy of XP home - genuine.....turns out the prob is this ..........arrrgg! So I know .... I know .... how you feel.

PS....my machine is running great now!!!! Whoo hoo - flying machine!!! Im just waiting for the multithreaded s/w next year.... maybe.


im steady telling u why ur having that problem and u wont fix it.... u need the amd x2 patch from there website and then u need the windows dual core patch from there website and then u wont have the frame lag with older games.
 
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