First of all, the new ISA standard is not Intel's but AMD's x86_64. Intel had wanted to go from x86 → Itanium IA64 but AMD captured the market with their x86_64 ISA. I'm not going to argue with your second point as Intel does on average charge more for their chips than AMD does and usually has since they started making CPUs. But you did forget the thing Intel is actually REALLY REALLY GOOD at- IC photolithography process engineering. Intel is world-class in their fab and process technology. Maybe IBM can go toe-to-toe with them, but Intel beats IBM in execution of the latest fab technology to make hundreds of millions of ICs.Intel is good at two things; making more expensive chips and regurgitating the 8086 architecture.
Probably about as expensive as equivalently-clocked Phenom X3s/X4s and Opteron x3xx CPUs, maybe a tad less.I can't wait to see how expensive their 45nm chip is going to be.
And people got a Skulltrail with dual QX9775s to 6 GHz under a liquid-cooled environment (that liquid was nitrogen, but it's a liquid, right? ) It really makes little difference to anybody who actually uses their computer how high somebody can get a CPU to go in a suicide shot using a grand worth of LN2 and a Vcore approaching two volts. Really the only thing that matters would be how high somebody can clock the chip on a sane Vcore using sane cooling methods, which usually means a large air-cooled heatsink or maybe water.Some people overclocked the Barcelona to 4.7Ghz under liquid cooled environment.
Barcelona like Phenom is Native Quad Core.
In my opinion the native quad core design is superior to the multi-chip module that Intel currently uses. The problem is that while AMD's concept for the design was great, their execution was disappointing. Intel will be using the same conceptual design in their next processor generation and it remains to be seen if they will fare any better.[/quotems]
It will be interesting to see the Nehalem launch. It's a big change for Intel as far as a macro-architectural and platform standpoint and there are supposed to be μarch tweaks as well.
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