Kepler news and discussion

[JAYDEEJOHN]

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120405PD218.html
Supply still doesnt look good

 

[lostcard]

I want TSMC logo on my toilet papir

i hope that company will solve its problems soon

 

[mactronix]

Artificial industry created shortage designed to justify the price increase Still on the plus side in Q4 the prices should start to fall, assuming the article is correct then any price drop before then would just go to prove that they are pushing the prices up through greed.

Mactronix

 

[lostcard]

Artificial industry created shortage designed to justify the price increase Still on the plus side in Q4 the prices should start to fall, assuming the article is correct then any price drop before then would just go to prove that they are pushing the prices up through greed.

Mactronix

i agree and hope nvidia and amd will find new partners to make their buisness with

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/04/06/will-28nm-rain-on-nvidias-financial-parade/
Who knows

 

[Guest]

it was about a week ago i was reading where Nvidia wasn't happy with TSMC then a day later [strike]AMD[/strike] APPLE was looking to start using them more . . . . :scratchhead:
now nvidia is going to intel for help.

EDIT:
Nvidia deeply unhappy with TSMC
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/123529-nvidia-deeply-unhappy-with-tsmc-claims-22nm-essentially-worthless
TSMC to craft more chips for Apple's next-gen portable devices
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/03/30/tsmc_to_craft_more_chips_for_apples_next_gen_portable_devices.html
Nvidia: Intel Should Build Our Chips In Its Factories
http://www.forbes.com/sites/briancaulfield/2012/03/22/nvidia-intel-should-let-us-build-chips-in-its-factories/

 

[Rockdpm]

This isnt fair. Infact now the only thing stopping me from getting one of the top of the line GTX 580's over a 670 ti or 680.... is the new technologies Direct X11.1 and the games soon to come share....

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Hold on
AMD got theirs out didnt they?
There may be low supplies, but they will be out

 

[esrever]

Artificial industry created shortage designed to justify the price increase Still on the plus side in Q4 the prices should start to fall, assuming the article is correct then any price drop before then would just go to prove that they are pushing the prices up through greed.

Mactronix

tin foil hat

 

[Rockdpm]

Well all i know is if TSMC has really worked out their so called "Kinks" in the processes and kepler costs are still too D&** high...... I won't blame NVIDIA but will only hope they stick with one nm process company "Global Foundries" cough cough. and bugg out TSMC for good.

 

[Rockdpm]

Well the problem is.......... EVGA and NVIDIA and all the people that made the 680... keep doing give aways and Advertisements and product show casing's of the 680.... But its kinda like "Buy 680 now, forget the facts uh you cant because they arent in stock ANYWHERE"

 

[Homeboy2]

:lol:

tin foil hat

 

[Haserath]

Well all i know is if TSMC has really worked out their so called "Kinks" in the processes and kepler costs are still too D&** high...... I won't blame NVIDIA but will only hope they stick with one nm process company "Global Foundries" cough cough. and bugg out TSMC for good.

We don't know whether bad yields are from TSMC, Nvidia, or both.

AMD has kept their 7970 in stock pretty well ever since launch; there was some stock outages early on for a short while, but they've gotten more chips out in the same amount of time Nvidia has had(since the beginning of the 28nm process at TSMC).

 

[Rockdpm]

But still..... if they don't have more kepler models out because "Yields" or "Shortages of chips within the 28nm process" then the Market for GPU's are gonna be slim

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Thus the higher pricing.
If supply is low, demand is high, charge what the market will bear.

Theyve allotted enough wafers for each SKU, you can be certain on this, and the lower 670s and 660s should come from crippled 680s anyways.
Lower than this, who knows, but they will have them covered.

They jumped out with the 680 because AMD forced them to, as I remember Jensen saying theyre waiting so they have enough product, which certainly isnt the case, and moved forwards regardless, tho low in numbers, and high in price

 

[17seconds]

The GTX 680 is priced exactly the same as the top-end cards from Nvidia have always been priced since time immemorial. The top GTX 580, 480, 280, 9800, 8800, 7800, and 6800 were all priced at $499 when they were released.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Pricing then; we just have to take into account that the GeForce GTX 280 will be introduced at launch with a price of no less than an astounding 649 USD, that's roughly 500-549 EUR here in Europe. And that's a stack load of money for sure which obviously I don't like as much as you do, either. The GeForce GTX 260 (which we hope to review soon) will be launched at a far more interesting 399,- USD retail price.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-280-review-test/20

 

[mactronix]

:lol:

That's your two's opinion (that you disagree with me that is) and you are entitled to it, I'm entitled to mine as well. Others agree with me you two obviously don't.
I feel its a little far and has insulting implications to suggest I'm a conspiracy theorist though, If you disagree with me fine but lets not start throwing insults about. Keep it civil, the mods have enough to do as it is.

Mactronix

 

[Rockdpm]

That's your two's opinion (that you disagree with me that is) and you are entitled to it, I'm entitled to mine as well. Others agree with me you two obviously don't.
I feel its a little far and has insulting implications to suggest I'm a conspiracy theorist though, If you disagree with me fine but lets not start throwing insults about. Keep it civil, the mods have enough to do as it is.

Mactronix

Agreed

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

TY

 

[-Fran-]

The GTX 680 is priced exactly the same as the top-end cards from Nvidia have always been priced since time immemorial. The top GTX 580, 480, 280, 9800, 8800, 7800, and 6800 were all priced at $499 when they were released.

Has the USA had any inflation or deflation in this past years?

I mean, here in Chile, we do have like 4-5% inflation per year, and the USD is getting lower (2008 was 1USD per 640CLP now it's like 490CLP). So, nVidia getting outside USA manufacturing and assembly, means it's subject to those economies prices (and inflation) against the USD.

Point is: I don't know if they "want" to price them at 500USD, but it wouldn't be hard to assume they're getting thinner margins on each year with that launching price. The USA economy is not so strong these days (AFAIK), and the countries where they manufacture the cards (Taiwan and China mainly) are getting stronger (vs the USD) each passing year.

Cheers!

 

[Homeboy2]

That's your two's opinion (that you disagree with me that is) and you are entitled to it, I'm entitled to mine as well. Others agree with me you two obviously don't.
I feel its a little far and has insulting implications to suggest I'm a conspiracy theorist though, If you disagree with me fine but lets not start throwing insults about. Keep it civil, the mods have enough to do as it is.

Mactronix

Why reply to me when I'm not the OP? I have implied nothing and made no insults, only laughing at someone else's post. As far as others agreeing with you, that simply means they are wrong too.I hope you're not going to cry to the mods again over nothing.

 

[mayankleoboy1]

where i live inflation is 9%.
and food inflation is 20%.

 

[-Fran-]

where i live inflation is 9%.
and food inflation is 20%.

9%? That's a lot... 20% for food alone is quite a bit as well.

Where are you from? Thailand, Malaysia?

Cheers!

 

[lostcard]

Can´t remember if ti was posted but i will show it anyways 😀

http://www.techpowerup.com/163804/MSI-GeForce-GTX-680-Twin-Frozr-III-Graphics-Card-Pictured.html