Question Kingston 240A400 GB + HDD conflicting health. Related to 450 Chipset?

[Frenchy789]

Hello everyone, I hope you guys are having a great weekend! (If you got one, shoutout to the real weekend warriors): I have quite a situation, on top of an existing HD situation. This is about the HD's first.
If this is in the wrong section, please tell me ASAP and I'll move it accordingly. Longetime lurker, recently joined

A catastrophic AMD MI install forced a total reinstall of windows but thats for another part of the forum..

I run 2 SSD's and 3 HDD's and am worried about 2 drives and their health.
This is my workstation so it's not a powerhouse but I run a lot of storage and I'm worried either 2 drives are about to die OR I'm overloading the chipset and slowing everything down.

EVERYTHING is backed up, Windows 10 has its own special back-up key <3 Offsite backups for crucial client stuff + a friend in the industry runs a small Cloud storage solution that I happily pay to support small business!

MY ISSUE: OVERLOADING B450 CHIPSET? OR SSD and an HDD about to DIE?

System

• Asus Prime B-450 Plus (it's Plus and in it's prime so you know it's amazing ;P)
• AMD 5 2600 CPU
• 16 GB Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX running at 3200Mhz
• Asus 580 8GB OC dual fan (overkill for my needs, snagged it for 149 Euros way back ^^)

Storage
- 128 GB Mushkin SSD
- 240 GB Kingston
- 500 GB WD 7200 RPM
- 320 GB WD 7200 RPM

• 2 TB WD
• 2 TB WD, both WD Caviar Greens

I know its a stupid storage solution but it's the backbone of my setup, formatting everything and using a backup is really a last resort option.

- 1Tb Samsung 980 Pro M.2 is sitting here until the stand-off and screw arrives in the mail (what waste, not in the mobo box..)

Drives are the ones that alternate between "warning" and "green, A-Okay" depending on the HD Health Monitoring software used.

The chipset has a 6G/s throughput but with too many drives, it throttles to half that speed. (though not always on, I keep 2 unplugged if a client needs that solution)

Smartmontools passes everything without issue though I'm not sure of my ability to use this software correctly
CystalDiskMark/Info: Yellow Warning for both but when I boot from another version of Windows 10 I have, Only the 320GB Spinny HDD shows any problems
SSDLife: 98% Life Left! (Even with the nearly 5+ years of time it's been powered on.
Kingston SSD Manager: 98% as well but only for the Kingston Drive and of course they would tell me that.
Windows HD Health: issues a warning for both.

Am I overloading the Chipset with all the drives? Or are they really beginning to die?

Thank you in advance and have a wonderful weekend!

 

[CountMike]

Hello everyone, I hope you guys are having a great weekend! (If you got one, shoutout to the real weekend warriors): I have quite a situation, on top of an existing HD situation. This is about the HD's first.
If this is in the wrong section, please tell me ASAP and I'll move it accordingly. Longetime lurker, recently joined

A catastrophic AMD MI install forced a total reinstall of windows but thats for another part of the forum..

I run 2 SSD's and 3 HDD's and am worried about 2 drives and their health.
This is my workstation so it's not a powerhouse but I run a lot of storage and I'm worried either 2 drives are about to die OR I'm overloading the chipset and slowing everything down.

EVERYTHING is backed up, Windows 10 has its own special back-up key <3 Offsite backups for crucial client stuff + a friend in the industry runs a small Cloud storage solution that I happily pay to support small business!

MY ISSUE: OVERLOADING B450 CHIPSET? OR SSD and an HDD about to DIE?

System

• Asus Prime B-450 Plus (it's Plus and in it's prime so you know it's amazing ;P)
• AMD 5 2600 CPU
• 16 GB Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX running at 3200Mhz
• Asus 580 8GB OC dual fan (overkill for my needs, snagged it for 149 Euros way back ^^)

Storage
- 128 GB Mushkin SSD
- 240 GB Kingston
- 500 GB WD 7200 RPM
- 320 GB WD 7200 RPM

• 2 TB WD
• 2 TB WD, both WD Caviar Greens

I know its a stupid storage solution but it's the backbone of my setup, formatting everything and using a backup is really a last resort option.

- 1Tb Samsung 980 Pro M.2 is sitting here until the stand-off and screw arrives in the mail (what waste, not in the mobo box..)

Drives are the ones that alternate between "warning" and "green, A-Okay" depending on the HD Health Monitoring software used.

The chipset has a 6G/s throughput but with too many drives, it throttles to half that speed. (though not always on, I keep 2 unplugged if a client needs that solution)

Smartmontools passes everything without issue though I'm not sure of my ability to use this software correctly
CystalDiskMark/Info: Yellow Warning for both but when I boot from another version of Windows 10 I have, Only the 320GB Spinny HDD shows any problems
SSDLife: 98% Life Left! (Even with the nearly 5+ years of time it's been powered on.
Kingston SSD Manager: 98% as well but only for the Kingston Drive and of course they would tell me that.
Windows HD Health: issues a warning for both.

Am I overloading the Chipset with all the drives? Or are they really beginning to die?

Thank you in advance and have a wonderful weekend!

No, you are not "overloading the Chipset", I have 6 SATA drives and 2 more M.2 SSDs in an adapter for PCIe slot that also feeds from chipset, no problems.
You need to check details on those drives which will tell you where the problem may be. Specially look for relocated/bad sectors.
Errors can be "soft" caused by file system corruptions (mostly caused by power disruptions while writing) or bad data cables/contacts. Those can be fixed but you will have to do full disk scan of sectors.
Hard errors caused by head or surface damage are there to stay although soft errors may also leave mark in firmware.

 

[freercurse]

Hd health monitoring software is wholly unreliable except in ver specific circumstances the drive is on its last door of death or its fine. The anything inbetween is generally a non issue. I've had supposedly bad health drives run for the last year's upon years until this day, with no issue. I do have raid setup however.
General good practice is to always keep a raid on spinning disks and to leave a bigger custom trim on ssds they will last significantly longer just buy leaving and extra 50 gb unused.
But yeah you can't over load a chipset. Sata5g is a very reliable system

 

[USAFRet]

but it's the backbone of my setup, formatting everything and using a backup is really a last resort option.

A properly set up backup routine means simply slotting in a new physical drive, and recovering the whole data set to the new drive.

Not "formatting" and then recovering individual files.


But no...it is not the chipset being overloaded.
Drives die. Prepare for that.

And don't wait for software to tell you. You need to be prepared every single day.

 

[Frenchy789]

Hd health monitoring software is wholly unreliable except in ver specific circumstances the drive is on its last door of death or its fine. The anything inbetween is generally a non issue. I've had supposedly bad health drives run for the last year's upon years until this day, with no issue. I do have raid setup however.
General good practice is to always keep a raid on spinning disks and to leave a bigger custom trim on ssds they will last significantly longer just buy leaving and extra 50 gb unused.
But yeah you can't over load a chipset. Sata5g is a very reliable system

That's what I always thought until a buddy of mine spent a good chunk of Friday evening telling me they are fantastic because of S.M.A.R.T caches in SSD's.

I'm glad I can use all the ports without any speed issues!

Very much appreciated, have a great weekend 😀

A properly set up backup routine means simply slotting in a new physical drive, and recovering the whole data set to the new drive.

Not "formatting" and then recovering individual files.


But no...it is not the chipset being overloaded.
Drives die. Prepare for that.

And don't wait for software to tell you. You need to be prepared every single day.

I think I need to re-configure my raid setup and streamline my offsite backups. Storage is cheaper than ever but right now: every $ counts.. especially when you're hobby turned little business starts looking like a viable career. I'm used to 3-5 customers and lately I've been hotswapping drives and using too many different backup options. I'm going to invest in 1 solid off-site, a local backup every 12hrs and lovely 512 GB flash drives for ultra vital info per customer.

2 2TB Red WD's should do the trick, everything is going into a new case with the C: drive being the NVME due to the AMD MI storage catastrophe.. The other random HD's will help out for a small Raid 6 for user files, raid 5 should be fine between the 4 2tb Drives of WD Green/Red

Thank you very much! Enjoy Sunday as well sir!

Hoped it could be avoided but a dead HDD years ago has traumatized me for multiple lives.

 

[USAFRet]

raid 5 should be fine between the 4 2tb Drives of WD Green/Red

WD Green should never be used in a RAID environment.
Actually, WD Green should be avoided in any business environment.

 

[CountMike]

WD Green should never be used in a RAID environment.
Actually, WD Green should be avoided in any business environment.

WD Blue is "New Green" and much better. There are 5400 and 7200rpm variants.

 

[Frenchy789]

WD Green should never be used in a RAID environment.
Actually, WD Green should be avoided in any business environment.

My business is a tiny side-hustle, I'm in Grad school and the primary customer backups are all off-site and taken care of by a small professional firm in Indianapolis I i'nterned' for back in HS.

I've used them for 6-8 years now without them ever failing.

Not versed in HDD manufacture. Did WD they switch heads, platter or actuator suppliers?

WD Blue is "New Green" and much better. There are 5400 and 7200rpm variants.

Thanks for the heads up, I just found some absolute steals and may pull the trigger before I go out to dinner.

Thanks you guys, much appreciated. Have a great weekend! (3 day for me hehe, VERY excited)