Laptop Vs.PC

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"I know for a fact that my "little" 1.6GHz Pentium-M notebook scores higher than a 2.4GHz Pentium 4 with a GeForce 4 Ti 4200....." - lol, no comments here, my P3-1.13 notebook outperformed Athlon900 with twice as much memory and faster HD (4200 versa 7200) in DivX encoding by as much as 2.5 times with clock difference only in 200 MHZ, but it does not mean that now i have to argue with every body out there that P3 laptop is faster than any pc with Athlon up to 1.1GHZ and P4 up to 1.8GHZ, even it is true for some apps. and by the way, while you at it, quit saying that PC can be equipped with ..Mobility or ..GO graphics, that is rediculous even to imagine.

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Hey 'blah', I don't dish out personal insults, and I don't expect to receive them. There is such a thing as equally spec'd notebooks-desktops "old fella", what do you call the ECS I-buddy? it is a notebook made up entirely of "desktop" components apart from the hard drive - it even has a standard lever-activated ZIF socket. And as a matter of fact, many notebooks especially those that use desktop CPUs use desktop chipsets ("dzing-dzing"). Furthermore, if you wish to be sooo specific, you could (unconvincingly) argue that a ShuttlePC cannot be equally spec'd to a standard desktop pc because it also uses a different/proprietary motherboard design. But we all know that that is not the case.

And what do you think a GeForce 4 Go 4200 is? It is a GeForce 4 Ti 4200 clocked down. There is NO DIFFERENCE, they are the exact same core. What do you think the Mobility Radeon 9000 is? It is a Radeon 9000 clocked down.. need I go on?!

<<<interesting how "shorter tracks" will have "thus slightly lower latency"? do you have any idea what speed electrons have? you think one or two inches will make a "couple of nanoseconds" of a difference?>>>

I was merely responding to another Poster's "miseducated" reasoning that the reason notebooks perform slower is because of shortened tracks, therefore I sarcastically (and theoretically) put forth on the table that shorter tracks could only mean lower latency even if there is no way to even measure the reduced time - try reading the entire thread before you go insulting other people with your supposedly higher intellect (and higher ego too).

I'm not even going to bother responding to the rest of your little unfounded, baseless escapades as it would simply be a waste of my time, forum space, and everyone else's intellect.




"Kapish?"

RaPTuRe


Oh, one more thing (and I don't think that I am alone here), until you have something relevant to add, "shut up".

Who's General Failure and why's he reading my disk?
 
lol, you are little out of scale, sorry.

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LOL, it is ""clocked down"" how come...""There is NO DIFFERENCE""? go read the sports, fella, there is no brain power gets to be involved.

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You are grasping at straws buddy! I will try to be specific now: There is no technical difference. Anyone who knows notebooks will also know that manufacturers are given the choice of what speed they would like the graphics card to run at. nVidia's technical spec's specify 200/400 (Core/Mem) as being the default, where as the Ti 4200's default is 250/500. i.e. If you clock the graphics cards to the same speed (ergo have a computer with equal specifications), they will score virtually the same.

I hope that was a bit more clear. Is that the only fact that you are going to quarrel?

RaPTuRe

And how can you say no brain power gets involved with reading sports? That is preposterous?! THINK about it my friend, what is CHESS?! Can you spell "S T R A T E G Y" ?

RaPTuRe

Who's General Failure and why's he reading my disk?
 
gg, ""There is no technical difference"" - I thought we were talking "performance" here, and not "technicality". are you trying to get me lost? please spare my poorly developppped brain and don't confuse my few last gray cells.

"If you clock..." - can you spell "I F"?

and if you need brain power to read, hehe, that is tough.

by the way, come to yahoo/games i'll show you "S T R A T E G Y"

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Why all the personal attacks 'blah'? Last I checked, this was a civil, hardware forum. I'm not trying to confuse you, and I need not bother as you seem to be succeeding quite admirably on your own. I'm also not used to having to lower my intellect to converse with people who obviously have much more experience at being ignorant:

Take for instance a Pentium 100MHz. If I clock that Pentium to 200MHz it will perform like a 200MHz Pentium. ([Sarcasm])Kinda makes sense huh? ([/sarcasm]) Just like I explained in my previous post (this is where the actual reading of posts comes in 😉 ), the notebook manufacturer has a choice of what speed they would like to clock their graphics etc. So "IF" applies to this situation. This of course is beside the point anyway because my statement says that if you spec a desktop computer and a notebook the same, they will perform the same - We have already established that you CAN in fact do this contrary to your statement in one of your original posts.

So "technicality" is covered as you can configure notebooks/desktops to the same technical specification, and "performance" is covered as you can get the same performance out of an identical notebook/desktop.

I don't want to turn this into some sort of flaming war, because I don't see the point - Why waste these people's time with your ignorant babbelings and my continual responses. I mean if you are going to reply, at least stick to the topic. If you have something you wish to say to me, at least send a personal message - spare everyone else the waste of time.

RaPTuRe

Who's General Failure and why's he reading my disk?
 
hey, RaPTuRe, no offence, i was just playing with you. you seam to be a very patient person, so i was trying to get you "off" the balance. i just like yer remarks like ""spare everyone else the waste of time"" and such.

anyway, back to the topic:

""I wanna ask if laptop can be as good as PC in performance"" - in theory it can. ""I f laptop can reach PC."" - in theory it can. ""And which are the best brand new models."" - big boys like Dell, IBM, HP, Sony, Toshiba make very good models, it depends what you want to do with it (through against the wall, or put on the shelf to wipe the dust off of it once in a while) and how much you have to "spare" for it.


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blah, my friend - you were stretching me thin! But I agree 100% with your post ^.

Rap

Who's General Failure and why's he reading my disk?