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Ovrclckr, refrain from useless comments thank you very much.

Who said the HD5770 was stupid? how about the first one who said it, andysomething. The day it was released. Now it is used by MANY ati haters. keep it low thank you. :)

that a HD5770 reach a HD5850? Yes that was a speculation since the difference is AROUND (AROUND!) the same as the HD4770/4850, and as you can see, the HD4770 had near (PRETTY NEAR) the same performances as 4850 amirite? But yes that is a SPECULATION dont even BOTHER answering to this thank you VERY MUCH. :)

HD 5770 are for HTPC? Maybe. But when a MID RANGE (MID RANGE. THIS.IS.NOT.A.HIGH.END.CARD.IT.IS.NOT.MEANT.FOR.PERFORMANCE.GAMING.)
reach the performances of a HD4870 wich was a HIGH END CARD and wich is still VERY POPULAR, but also bring DX11 and eyeinfinity, with better power/noise/heat control, I think it will please most of the gamers out there.
Oh and, no xfiring them is not stupid mister I know everything. Most of the ppl that buy mid range cards AND consider xfire will USUALLY buy the second card quite a few time later, thus meaning the price would have dropped. :)

Oh and IN MOST GAMES HD5850 will SMASH HD5770crossfire?

http://guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5770-review-test/18

Same performance as a HD5850.

http://guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5770-review-test/14
http://guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5770-review-test/19
http://guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5770-review-test/15
http://guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5770-review-test/17

Same performance as HD5870. Also beat it at HAWX. Point.

http://guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5770-review-test/16
http://guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5770-review-test/20
http://guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5770-review-test/21

And the most beautifull for last -> SAME PERFORMANCE AS HD5870 CROSSFIRE.


Look man I do realize you hate me :)
But still, PLEASE dont make USELESS,POINTLESS,STUPID comments.
Dont assume sh!t witouth ANYTHING to back you up, you will just get dissed by me and end up looking totaly blanked. :)
Thank you for saying my thread was pointless tho :)

Oh last thing, for the price, how about you wait the HD4870 is EOL? Maybe then ATI can finally drop the price to the real level. No company like losing money right? So that's not an argument. Even at 180$, it is a BIG competition since it offers many new things compared to a 167$ HD4870.

Also at daedalus, the HD5770 MIGHT REACH (REACH! NEVERHAVE THE SAME) the same performances as HD5850 was a SPECULATION dont hate about it thank you. As you can see, it doesnt need to REACH the HD4870, I think it's pretty much the same. Also, the difference in ratio between raw power is 1.8x. The HD4770 vs HD4850 was 1.25x. So yes I think it's quite fair to believe that there is a driver problem and that we will see HD5770 getting around 10~ fps less then HD5850 hopefully. Remeber that HD4770 only had 3~5 FPS less then HD4850. BUT THATS ONLY SPECULATION PLEASE DONT BOTHER ANSWERING THAT.

Ovrclkr thank you for your...useless...comment :)
 
This makes no sense :

Now to make things clear.
HD4870 = High end Card
HD5770= Mid range card.

The 4870 is more or less the same as GTX 260, give or take. As far as I know the GTX 260 is a midrange GPU. The GTX 275 is mid-high and anything above that is HIGH-END

Taking that into consideration, the 4870 is a midrange GPU. The 4890 is mid-high and the 4870x2 is considered HIGH-END..

5750/5770 = Midrange
5850/5870 = High End
 
All I can say is that im looking forward to getting home from work so I can have a more intelectual experience with my cat..

Rather than point out why you are blatantly on some other realm of reality, I'm going to give you these links:

http://dictionary.reference.com/
http://www.wikipedia.org/

Now, I want you to look up the following words:

Assumption
Oppinion
Subjective
Objective
Reach
Similar
Equivalent
Speculation
ratio
difference

Once you are comfortable using those words I can start to explain how using the phrase "difference in ratio between " makes my eyes bleed.

Perhaps you would be better suited then, to understand why the 5850 vs 5770 is not at all the same as the 4850 vs 4770. Some points to consider would be comparing memory subsystems (which were equivalent on the 4's, where as the 5850 has twice teh bus width of a 5770), comparing the cores, and THEN looking at the clocks. By the way, 640/800 = .8 where as 800/1440 = .5556. So not only is the 5850 far larger than a 5770, it has twice the memory bandwidth...



 



Look when you don't know what your saying, don't say anything. AskANYONE here if a HD4870 is a high end card and I think the answer youl get will give you a heartattack.

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=3&id=2610

I REALLY dont want to bring up the 921038091 sites that says the same thing thank you.
YOU don't make any sense.

and at daedalus, I would like you to be less ironic thank you. You could be alittle more polite you know.
As for the memory bandwidth, I did not know about this one and thank you (even tho You did it in a pretty ugly way) for pointing that out.
I still maintain my specualtion that the HD5770 might have a boost of performance with future drivers. Maybe not reach HD5850, but as I showed, it is a midrange card and should NOT be compared in No way with a high end card. My speculation was based on my own understanding, wich the memory bandwidth was not part off.
And I know my words thank you very much. But ANYWAY this thread is not about the HD5850 vs HD5770, it's about HD5770 vs HD4870, thank you for pointing out my mistake, but move on and if your gonna answer on that, just don't answer :)
 


Your links are contradicting what you are posting.. I said most games. Not all.... Second if 2 or 3 peeps said that the 5770 is a stupid card and you got all upset about then I feel bad for you. Stupid is a childish word, it is obvious that the card can hold it's own when you compare them to similiar priced cards.

Another thing that I see which is a FAIL is you comparing the 4770/4850 to 5770/5850... What are you trying to prove? We have seen the benches and know what each can achieve, but dont assume that since the 4770 only had 3-5 FPS less than the 4850 you can say the same thing when comparing the 5770 to the 5850. You are comparing apples to oranges, and NO the 5770 will not stand a chance vs. the 5850 since both GPU's will have updated drivers meaning they both will have a bump in performance.

Look dude, I don't hate you. Never did, my point on your FERMI thread was "Let's give Nvidia a chance to show us something" and of course you took it the wrong way when in fact I TOLD YOU that maybe there was a misunderstanding and that if you have a right to post your point of view then I should have the same right. I don't see us going anywhere by arguing over stupid things, I apologize if I came on to you as disrespectfull as it may have seemed. There will be things that you post that I do not agree with and vice versa. Lets just keep it cool from now on. You do post alot of good stuff here on Tom's, but you also have a bad temper and both of those do not mix.


 


Personally I think the 4870 and GTX 260 are mid-range cards. Of course when they came out that was a diffferent story. Time goes by, new GPU's emerge, so that is what bumbs them down from high-end to mid-range. If you really think a 4870 is a HIGH-END GPU, technically, then I respect your point of view. To me it was a HIGH-END GPU till the 4870x2 and 4890 dropped, and now more mid-range than ever since the 5850 and 5870.

 


Yeah I guess we started bad.. My bad D:

But yeah, the 5770/5850 was pretty stupid, I went a little too optimistic.

But you said dont compare apples to orange right?
Well this is the problem around this card, and why its underated.
People compare a 128bits (MID RANGE in nvidia and ati marketing) against a 256bits (High end) and then say that HD5770 is not an imporvement. this is FALSE, because it is a CLEAR improvement from the last 128 (MIDRANGE) card.
Not only doe it come with the SAME performance as 4870, but it also have new features, excelent crossfireX and less requirements. This is why I believe people are being badmouthed. Also, it's way more then 2 or 3 guys..thers ALOT of them. This comparaison is now used by fanboys to trash ATI.

Also for the games...
I showed every game in the benchmark.... you can check...none is missing..and in all of them, the crossfire is more then awesome. never HD5850 beats the 5770CF..
 
Yea, I guess in high res situations the 5770's in xfire are superior. I was going by other links that posted otherwise. I see your point, but do not understand the pricing on those 5770's. They are basically priced the same as a 4890. What would you rather get, dual 5770's or a single 5850? Taking into consideration that you can add another 5850 down the road?
 
True that the pricing have shocked many.
But ati is a company right XD
If they price the 5770 same as HD4870, then NO ONE will have any interest in a inferior card for the same price.
They have to wait for the 4870 to be EOL, and then the 5770 will eventually drop to much more appreciated prices.
Of course the crossfiring is interesting after a year, even 6 months when the prices will drop by at least 100$ (adn they will.)
but yeh its true that currently, the pricing is not the force of this card, even the 5750 looks far more interesting XD
 
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