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I'd be interested to know when lights (strobe, landing etc.)on aircraft
should be on or off, whether singularly or together.

Ok the panel switch turns the 'dashboard' lights on and supposedly that can
be done whenever the pilot deems he/she needs to see the panel indicators,
but what about the others.

Should taxiing lights be on after landing etc etc...
 
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"Shub" <shubunkin@btinternet.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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> I'd be interested to know when lights (strobe, landing etc.)on aircraft
> should be on or off, whether singularly or together.
>
> Ok the panel switch turns the 'dashboard' lights on and supposedly that
can
> be done whenever the pilot deems he/she needs to see the panel indicators,
> but what about the others.
>
> Should taxiing lights be on after landing etc etc...
>
>

Some time ago I copied the following text from the PMDG forum. It is for the
B737NG aircraft:

Aircraft lights

On stand: (night time only)
Position lights on
Logo lights on

Before start up and during all flight whilst engines running, until engines
shutdown again: (day and night)
Anti Collision lights

During taxi: (day and night)
Taxi light on

Lining up: (day and night)
Landing light on
Runway Turnoff light on
Strobe lights on

After departure, when performing after takeoff checks: (day and night)
Landing lights off
Runway Turnoff lights off
Taxi light off
logo light (if already on) off

That will leave you configured in the lighting department until you begin
your approach and all you do is switch them on in that order:

Approach: (night only)
Logo lights

Final App: (day and night)
Landing lights on
Runway turnoff lights on
Taxi lights on (not sure about this one, i normally do. The taxi light is on
the front nose gear, so it can't do any harm to have it on!)

Vacating Runway: (day and night)
Landing lights off
Runway turnoff lights off
Taxi light (if not already) on
Strobes off

Turning onto stand: (day and night)
Taxi light off

After engines shutdown: (day and night)
Anti collision light off

------------------------------------------------------
Position and logo lights can stay on at all times when on the stand during
night time. Also Position lights (i think) are on all the time during
daytime (in the realworld!) anyway. If position lights are not on during
daytime, but it is bad weather, it is good practice to have them on.

Not too sure about wing lights. They light up the leading edge of the wing
(to check for icing?). These are probably turned on/off at the same time as
logo lights.
 
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"Henning Larsen" <henning.larsenNOGOOD@osterbo-net.dk> wrote in message
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<Snip>

> After departure, when performing after takeoff checks: (day and night)
> Landing lights off
> Runway Turnoff lights off
> Taxi light off
> logo light (if already on) off

<Snip>

> Final App: (day and night)
> Landing lights on
> Runway turnoff lights on
> Taxi lights on (not sure about this one, i normally do. The taxi light is
> on
> the front nose gear, so it can't do any harm to have it on!)

<Snip>

My understanding was that landing lights should be on below 10000 feet. Am I
wrong? :0))

Iain
 
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"IAIN SMITH" <iainsmith.rugby@btinternet.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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>
> "Henning Larsen" <henning.larsenNOGOOD@osterbo-net.dk> wrote in message
> news:4a0d7$4218ec67$3e3d85ed$6401@nf4.news-service.com...
>
> <Snip>
>
> > After departure, when performing after takeoff checks: (day and night)
> > Landing lights off
> > Runway Turnoff lights off
> > Taxi light off
> > logo light (if already on) off
>
> <Snip>
>
> > Final App: (day and night)
> > Landing lights on
> > Runway turnoff lights on
> > Taxi lights on (not sure about this one, i normally do. The taxi light
is
> > on
> > the front nose gear, so it can't do any harm to have it on!)
>
> <Snip>
>
> My understanding was that landing lights should be on below 10000 feet. Am
I
> wrong? :0))
>
> Iain
>
>

I had the same thoughts, but the guy who originally wrote this is a real
life 737 pilot. Maybe it's only in some countries the landing lights must be
lit when below 10000 feet, but I dont know.

Henning
 
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"Henning Larsen" <henning.larsenNOGOOD@osterbo-net.dk> schrieb im
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>
> "IAIN SMITH" <iainsmith.rugby@btinternet.com> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:cvchb4$4n8$1@titan.btinternet.com...
>>
>> "Henning Larsen" <henning.larsenNOGOOD@osterbo-net.dk> wrote in message
>> news:4a0d7$4218ec67$3e3d85ed$6401@nf4.news-service.com...
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>> > After departure, when performing after takeoff checks: (day and night)
>> > Landing lights off
>> > Runway Turnoff lights off
>> > Taxi light off
>> > logo light (if already on) off
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>> > Final App: (day and night)
>> > Landing lights on
>> > Runway turnoff lights on
>> > Taxi lights on (not sure about this one, i normally do. The taxi light
> is
>> > on
>> > the front nose gear, so it can't do any harm to have it on!)
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>> My understanding was that landing lights should be on below 10000 feet.
>> Am
> I
>> wrong? :0))
>>
>> Iain
>>
>>
>
> I had the same thoughts, but the guy who originally wrote this is a real
> life 737 pilot. Maybe it's only in some countries the landing lights must
> be
> lit when below 10000 feet, but I dont know.
>
> Henning
>
>
No, it's just a common rule. There is however a reason for this. On many A/C
types the landing light are of the rectracting type and they produce quite
some vibrations at high speeds when extended. Furthermore below FL100/10'000
ft there's most commonly a speed limit of 250 KIAS. So these two go hand in
hand. ;-)

Btw, it's not really that some pilot's are scared that they fly "so slow"
below 10'000 ft. It's actually a certification item for windshield
bird-proofness. If you ever had a direct hit at 250 KTS you will certainly
agree that you were lucky not to fly faster (I had one at 8000 ft by a
relatively small swallow, and it smashed 3 of the five glass layers...)

Use of lighting is usually laid down in company procedures. The only
required lighting by law (at least according to JAR) are the so-called
rotating beacon whenever engine start is intended or engines running (must
not necessarily be of the rotating type, but at least flashing red) and the
navigation lights during nighttime.
--
Oskar
(retired captain)
Remember, in the great scheme of things, we're all small potatoes...
 
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I'm not sure how great a reference this is, but if you watch the AI aircraft
in climb or descent, the landing lights go off and on at 10,000 feet.

Arthur

"Oskar Wagner" <rengaw@swissonline.ch> wrote in message
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> "Henning Larsen" <henning.larsenNOGOOD@osterbo-net.dk> schrieb im
> Newsbeitrag news:12856$4219e20d$3e3d85ed$11833@nf4.news-service.com...
>>
>> "IAIN SMITH" <iainsmith.rugby@btinternet.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>> news:cvchb4$4n8$1@titan.btinternet.com...
>>>
>>> "Henning Larsen" <henning.larsenNOGOOD@osterbo-net.dk> wrote in message
>>> news:4a0d7$4218ec67$3e3d85ed$6401@nf4.news-service.com...
>>>
>>> <Snip>
>>>
>>> > After departure, when performing after takeoff checks: (day and night)
>>> > Landing lights off
>>> > Runway Turnoff lights off
>>> > Taxi light off
>>> > logo light (if already on) off
>>>
>>> <Snip>
>>>
>>> > Final App: (day and night)
>>> > Landing lights on
>>> > Runway turnoff lights on
>>> > Taxi lights on (not sure about this one, i normally do. The taxi light
>> is
>>> > on
>>> > the front nose gear, so it can't do any harm to have it on!)
>>>
>>> <Snip>
>>>
>>> My understanding was that landing lights should be on below 10000 feet.
>>> Am
>> I
>>> wrong? :0))
>>>
>>> Iain
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I had the same thoughts, but the guy who originally wrote this is a real
>> life 737 pilot. Maybe it's only in some countries the landing lights must
>> be
>> lit when below 10000 feet, but I dont know.
>>
>> Henning
>>
>>
> No, it's just a common rule. There is however a reason for this. On many
> A/C types the landing light are of the rectracting type and they produce
> quite some vibrations at high speeds when extended. Furthermore below
> FL100/10'000 ft there's most commonly a speed limit of 250 KIAS. So these
> two go hand in hand. ;-)
>
> Btw, it's not really that some pilot's are scared that they fly "so slow"
> below 10'000 ft. It's actually a certification item for windshield
> bird-proofness. If you ever had a direct hit at 250 KTS you will certainly
> agree that you were lucky not to fly faster (I had one at 8000 ft by a
> relatively small swallow, and it smashed 3 of the five glass layers...)
>
> Use of lighting is usually laid down in company procedures. The only
> required lighting by law (at least according to JAR) are the so-called
> rotating beacon whenever engine start is intended or engines running (must
> not necessarily be of the rotating type, but at least flashing red) and
> the navigation lights during nighttime.
> --
> Oskar
> (retired captain)
> Remember, in the great scheme of things, we're all small potatoes...
>
 
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