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I am looking for a new photo printer. This is for photo use only because I
have a Canon MP 780 all in one for everyday printing. I will mostly be using
it for 5x7 4x6 and 8x10 photos. I am looking at the Epson because they print
on CD'S but this is not that important. The photo quality and colors is more
important. I am not interested in HP'S because of their high ink price and
you have to change the whole cartridge for one color. Any suggestions?
 
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> I have a Canon MP 780 all in one for everyday printing. I will mostly be using
> it for 5x7 4x6 and 8x10 photos. I am looking at the Epson because they print
> on CD'S but this is not that important.

I print CDs on my mp760... the instructions were found in the mp750/780
service manual.
http://pixma.cjb.net/
http://pixma-faq.cjb.net/
It's a pain because you gotta find or make a tray, but it is an option.

I find that the mp760 is a very passable photo printer, but actually
leaned tward the r200 for more accurate reproductions out of the box
and consistent results on different types of media without tweeking. I
ditched it in favor of the canon due to issues I had with it, but I did
so with some regrets. I made my choice based on what I could maintain
the longest.

I wouldn't dismiss HP out of the running. I don't have current numbers
but the last time I looked the cost/page was on par with the epson dye
printers, and the newer photo printers can use a grey cart which is a
big bonus.
 
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> What if for example you print a lot Christmas pictures that use a lot of
> red? There goes all your red and you have to replace the ink at around $30
> compare to Epson or Canon at $11.

A good x-mas red uses much magenta and yellow and a pinch of cyan...
and green is cyan and yellow. Christmas is a great holiday because you
use up all your ink pretty evenly.

The C9363WN color hp cart I believe is 14ml by three fetching a price
of $35 which works out to be about $11.66 each color. Chances are by
the time one is low, another is almost equaly as low as it takes at
least two colors to form a decent primary color and your third best
case scenero might be left with 1/2 of a single color left.

I can't speak for the canons as i've not replaced ink in them alot but
the Epsons... you "can" replace the magenta but if you do it by their
methods, the offical replace cart method, it's going to spew ink from
all the cartrages... so if your magenta is low and it gets replaced
you've lost so much of everything else you might as well replace the
whole set.

IIRC the R200 uses 13ml color carts costing $12/each. I found
replacing all the ink at the same time wasted far less ink than one at
a time with a cleaning cycle that purged a few ml from each one. The
black for the r200 costs $18 IIRC and is about 1/2 the yield of the HP
IIRC.

I went into the epson thinking that it would reduce my long term costs.
It didn't happen. while it's true you might not get all the ink out
of an HP cart replacing the set costs $60ish with typicaly a very high
yield black, a tad more if you buy one that takes three carts. The
epson ran me about $78/refill with a lower yield black. Not a big deal
as you already have a canon for document printing.

The way I see it... it's a cointoss between HP which you have to throw
away surplus ink or the epson which will purge surplus ink.

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The r800 is a very nice printer... Those ultrachrome pigment inks are
rather lightfast and the results look great even on uncoated paper, so
long as you're willing to spend $14.25 each or $114 for an entire set
of ink.

There is also the r200/r300 which are more reasonable in price and work
better on glossy papers.

The canon ip6000 and i960 are also good choices for photo printers.
the i960 *was* onsale on tigerdirect for under $100 but alas they hiked
their price, the current ip6000 costs less from newegg.com. While I
prefer the epsons for color accuracy and consistancy on most media
types the Canons don't seem to waste as much ink and the cost is much
more reasonable. But if you want to be frugal and not spend extra for
light magenta/cyan the canon ip5000 is a *very* nice substitute. While
i'd vote for smooth skies, the ip5000 with the smaller drop size looks
very good.
 
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The CD printing is not that important to me just ink cost and print quality.
> I wouldn't dismiss HP out of the running. I don't have current numbers
> but the last time I looked the cost/page was on par with the Epson <

What if for example you print a lot Christmas pictures that use a lot of
red? There goes all your red and you have to replace the ink at around $30
compare to Epson or Canon at $11.

"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> I have a Canon MP 780 all in one for everyday printing. I will mostly be
>> using
>> it for 5x7 4x6 and 8x10 photos. I am looking at the Epson because they
>> print
>> on CD'S but this is not that important.
>
> I print CDs on my mp760... the instructions were found in the mp750/780
> service manual.
> http://pixma.cjb.net/
> http://pixma-faq.cjb.net/
> It's a pain because you gotta find or make a tray, but it is an option.
>
> I find that the mp760 is a very passable photo printer, but actually
> leaned tward the r200 for more accurate reproductions out of the box
> and consistent results on different types of media without tweeking. I
> ditched it in favor of the canon due to issues I had with it, but I did
> so with some regrets. I made my choice based on what I could maintain
> the longest.
>
> I wouldn't dismiss HP out of the running. I don't have current numbers
> but the last time I looked the cost/page was on par with the epson dye
> printers, and the newer photo printers can use a grey cart which is a
> big bonus.
>
 
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"Kenneth Maultsby" <kmaultsby@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>I am looking for a new photo printer. This is for photo use only because I
>have a Canon MP 780 all in one for everyday printing. I will mostly be
>using it for 5x7 4x6 and 8x10 photos. I am looking at the Epson because
>they print on CD'S but this is not that important. The photo quality and
>colors is more important. I am not interested in HP'S because of their
>high ink price and you have to change the whole cartridge for one color.
>Any suggestions?
>

You should try a Lexmark Z515 at Wal-Mart for $29-$32. Being a 4800dpi
printer it does wonderful photos. The cartridges are easy to refill by
drilling tiny holes in the corner. If you don't like it your not out much $
for giving it a try. I just buy a new printer when the cartridges wear out
or get clogged.

ER
 
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"Kenneth Maultsby" <kmaultsby@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>I am looking for a new photo printer. This is for photo use only because I
>have a Canon MP 780 all in one for everyday printing. I will mostly be
>using it for 5x7 4x6 and 8x10 photos. I am looking at the Epson because
>they print on CD'S but this is not that important. The photo quality and
>colors is more important. I am not interested in HP'S because of their
>high ink price and you have to change the whole cartridge for one color.
>Any suggestions?

What is your price range? Is photo longevity important to you? The Epson
R800 does CDs and has the highest rating for photo longevity. Do a Google
for many reviews.
 
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Runs fine for me - have used the Epson 820, 925, and RX500 6-color
inkjets and they work great.

The latest, the RX500, was one of those nice clearance/last-year's model
priced specials for <$100, so naturally, had to pick one up.

Prints great (I'm talking ! wow!!) from the camera flash cards (Sony
P150) w/o any adjustments, and they seriously match and/or beat local
print lab quality w/o a doubt (and I'm picky!).

Seriously saturated, colorful, contrasty prints that look 'better than
life'!

Anyways, for me, an excellent combo to get nice prints w/o much work.

---

Also, have always prefered the feel and juicy saturated look of Epson
Premium Glossy Photo Paper prints vs. the other brands, so that also had
me staying with Epson.

(Keep in mind - Epson 100pk of 4x6" EPGP paper is also cheaper, on
average, than the other brand's premium 4x6" paper. Add that to ink
costs...)
 
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ER wrote:

>"Kenneth Maultsby" <kmaultsby@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news😱mgBe.383$3F4.32@trnddc03...
>
>
>>I am looking for a new photo printer. This is for photo use only because I
>>have a Canon MP 780 all in one for everyday printing. I will mostly be
>>using it for 5x7 4x6 and 8x10 photos. I am looking at the Epson because
>>they print on CD'S but this is not that important. The photo quality and
>>colors is more important. I am not interested in HP'S because of their
>>high ink price and you have to change the whole cartridge for one color.
>>Any suggestions?
>>
>>
>>
>
>You should try a Lexmark Z515
>
TRASH

> at Wal-Mart for $29-$32. Being a 4800dpi
>printer it does wonderful photos. The cartridges are easy to refill by
>drilling tiny holes in the corner. If you don't like it your not out much $
>for giving it a try. I just buy a new printer when the cartridges wear out
>or get clogged.
>
>ER
>
>
>
>
>
 
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On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 05:58:39 -0700, "ER" <evad@dodgeit.com> wrote:


>
>You should try a Lexmark Z515 at Wal-Mart for $29-$32. Being a 4800dpi
>printer it does wonderful photos. The cartridges are easy to refill by
>drilling tiny holes in the corner. If you don't like it your not out much $
>for giving it a try. I just buy a new printer when the cartridges wear out
>or get clogged.
>
*Don't* if you have any sort of wish to have a decent print, buy
*anything* from Lexmark.

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"Kenneth Maultsby" <kmaultsby@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>I am looking for a new photo printer. This is for photo use only because I
>...

I have had an Epson R800 for about a year and it is absolutely stunning for
photographs. Not so good on printable CD's, but maybe I'm using the wrong
media. A full set of cartidges runs about $100 and I have probably got
through about 12 cartridges. I've printed maybe 25 8.5x11's, 30-40 6x4's
and 40-50 CD's and CD liners etc., so it's not cheap The cartridges go much
quicker if you power the printer off and on frequently.
I had a Lexmark some years ago, and wouldn't touch anything from them with a
ten foot pole.
 
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David de Jongh wrote:

>"Kenneth Maultsby" <kmaultsby@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news😱mgBe.383$3F4.32@trnddc03...
>
>
>>I am looking for a new photo printer. This is for photo use only because I
>>...
>>
>>
>
>I have had an Epson R800 for about a year and it is absolutely stunning for
>photographs.
>

Do you notice any bronzing with the Epson OEM Pigmented ink?

>Not so good on printable CD's, but maybe I'm using the wrong
>media. A full set of cartidges runs about $100 and I have probably got
>through about 12 cartridges. I've printed maybe 25 8.5x11's, 30-40 6x4's
>and 40-50 CD's and CD liners etc., so it's not cheap The cartridges go much
>quicker if you power the printer off and on frequently.
>I had a Lexmark some years ago, and wouldn't touch anything from them with a
>ten foot pole.
>
>

I believe that the Canon IP8500 will produce just as good results for a
lot less money. As for fading, I have not notice any in 9 months with
my IP4000 but with the 6 and 8 color printers I do not know.

>
>
>
 
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In general, I would consider this poor economy and poorer environmental
stewardship. Buying a mid priced inkjet printer usually will supply you
with one that is reliable, and provides good print output, and it may
provide for refilling depending upon the model and brands.

Art

ER wrote:

> "Kenneth Maultsby" <kmaultsby@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news😱mgBe.383$3F4.32@trnddc03...
>
>>I am looking for a new photo printer. This is for photo use only because I
>>have a Canon MP 780 all in one for everyday printing. I will mostly be
>>using it for 5x7 4x6 and 8x10 photos. I am looking at the Epson because
>>they print on CD'S but this is not that important. The photo quality and
>>colors is more important. I am not interested in HP'S because of their
>>high ink price and you have to change the whole cartridge for one color.
>>Any suggestions?
>>
>
>
> You should try a Lexmark Z515 at Wal-Mart for $29-$32. Being a 4800dpi
> printer it does wonderful photos. The cartridges are easy to refill by
> drilling tiny holes in the corner. If you don't like it your not out much $
> for giving it a try. I just buy a new printer when the cartridges wear out
> or get clogged.
>
> ER
>
>
>
 
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In message <k1odd1li4ourmtn5b68fp2b1a4ps4hcej4@4ax.com>, Hecate
<hecate@newsguy.com> writes
>On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 05:58:39 -0700, "ER" <evad@dodgeit.com> wrote:
>>You should try a Lexmark Z515 at Wal-Mart for $29-$32. Being a 4800dpi
>>printer it does wonderful photos. The cartridges are easy to refill by
>>drilling tiny holes in the corner. If you don't like it your not out much $
>>for giving it a try. I just buy a new printer when the cartridges wear out
>>or get clogged.
>*Don't* if you have any sort of wish to have a decent print, buy
>*anything* from Lexmark.

Unless its a heavy duty departmental network laser.

--
Timothy
 
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Do you mean genuine Epson ink cartridges, or supposed "100% compatible" OEM
rubbish? I never buy anything like that. My company buys reloads for
Laserjets, then wonders why they get so many tech support calls.
No, I don't get bronzing.
"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> David de Jongh wrote:
>
>>"Kenneth Maultsby" <kmaultsby@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>news😱mgBe.383$3F4.32@trnddc03...
>>
>>>I am looking for a new photo printer. This is for photo use only because
>>>I ...
>>>
>>
>>I have had an Epson R800 for about a year and it is absolutely stunning
>>for photographs.
>
> Do you notice any bronzing with the Epson OEM Pigmented ink?
>
>>Not so good on printable CD's, but maybe I'm using the wrong media. A
>>full set of cartidges runs about $100 and I have probably got through
>>about 12 cartridges. I've printed maybe 25 8.5x11's, 30-40 6x4's and
>>40-50 CD's and CD liners etc., so it's not cheap The cartridges go much
>>quicker if you power the printer off and on frequently.
>>I had a Lexmark some years ago, and wouldn't touch anything from them with
>>a ten foot pole.
>
> I believe that the Canon IP8500 will produce just as good results for a
> lot less money. As for fading, I have not notice any in 9 months with my
> IP4000 but with the 6 and 8 color printers I do not know.
>
>>
>>
 
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:57:37 +0100, "me@privacy.net" <me@Privacy.Net>
wrote:

>>*Don't* if you have any sort of wish to have a decent print, buy
>>*anything* from Lexmark.
>
>Unless its a heavy duty departmental network laser.

True. They work :)

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