Build Advice Looking for comments and advice on this build

[Rivical]

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: June 20th, 2019

Budget Range: $1100-$1200

Parts to Upgrade:
Motherboard: ASUS Prime X470-Pro AM4 AMD X470 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119100
SSD: Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 Internal SSD High Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-1TB)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LGF54XR/ref=?tag=slickdeals09-20&ascsubtag=f5d35a4884ba11e9bbfa9298aa0449350INT&m=A29Y8OP2GPR7PE&keywords=1TB NVMe ssd
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Processor with Wraith Prism LED Cooler - YD270XBGAFBOX
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Wraith-Cooler/dp/B07B428M7F
GPU: GIGABYTE GTX 1070 (already owned)
https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GV-...HDJP2DQMXXS&psc=1&refRID=FX5PM8ETFHDJP2DQMXXS
(IDK if this is the exact same GPU I have but its just for reference)
Radiator/Heatsink: CORSAIR H100i RGB PLATINUM SE AIO Liquid CPU Cooler,240mm,Dual LL120 RGB PWM Fans, Intel 115x/2066,AMD AM4/TR4
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LGHJTVX/ref=psdc_3015422011_t1_B019EXSSBG?th=1
Ram: CORSAIR Vengeance RGB PRO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz C16 LED Desktop Memory - White
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...9940d967b084cc5f50INT&ie=UTF8&pldnSite=1&th=1
Case: CORSAIR CRYSTAL 570X RGB Mid-Tower Case, 3 RGB Fans, Tempered Glass - White (CC-9011110-WW)
https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-Crystal-Mid-Tower-Tempered-Glass/dp/B073D1XJ55?th=1

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
Any website is fine, but preference would be amazon or newegg.

Location:
Texas?

Parts Preferences:
White colored, but doesnt matter if the theme doesn't stay white

Overclocking:
Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution:
1080p plan on upgrading to 1440p

Additional Comments:
A good network card and Bluetooth card would be nice.

 

[WildCard999]

Since your going with a aftermarket CPU cooler I'd save money and get the 1700. With the AIO you should be able to overclock pretty close to the 2700X. Also changed out the SSD for a better one and put in what I'd get for a PSU since you didn't list one.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg Business)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i RGB PLATINUM 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Walmart)
Case: Corsair - Crystal 570X ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ B&H)
Total: $854.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-02 18:33 EDT-0400



With your extra cash I'd get this monitor.

PCPartPicker Part List
Monitor: MSI - Optix MAG341CQ 34.0" 3440x1440 100 Hz Monitor ($429.00 @ Walmart)
Total: $429.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-02 18:35 EDT-0400

It's about $80 above your original budget however if your near a Microcenter it's $50 cheaper plus getting your other parts there could save you another $30-50 (they price match with online retailors such as Newegg & Amazon). If you want a standard 16:9 1440P monitor then most will work fine although I'd get a Freesync one and use updated Nvidia drivers to utilize the Freesync with the 1070 although you'll need to get a DisplayPort cable if the monitor doesn't come with one (most come with HDMI which won't work with the Freesync on that 1070).

 

[AminAhmad]

this is a very high end pc and should run the latest games at really high settings but if not you could check about getting a better internet broad band as most game require more streaming services but im sure you should be fine with what you got.

 

[Rivical]

@WildCard999 Awesome appreciate the response! It was very helpful, just looked at some benchmarks and it does seem that its better just to get the 1700 and OC. I was wondering what you would OC it at, 3.8GHz?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

3.8 or 3.9 is usually achievable, sometimes even on stock cooling.
I'd expect to get 3.8-4ghz on the H100i, however, it depends on how much you want to spend fiddling with voltages.

 

[Rivical]

Very nice! I was also wondering if i decided to stream would the 1700 still do fine?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

One of the Ryzen 7 1700s main bragging features was its streaming performance over the 4 core I7s of the time. The 8 cores and 16 threads will run games while streaming very well. Some software may run better than others, but streaming with GeForce experience or OBS should be no problem.
An overclock will help gaming performance, since the Ryzen 7 1700 does have low stock clocks, but will overclock really far.

 

[Rivical]

I dont plan on doing 4k but i really like the MSI - Optix MAG341CQ 34.0" 3440x1440 100 Hz Monitor is there a good equivalent for 1440p?

 

[WildCard999]

I dont plan on doing 4k but i really like the MSI - Optix MAG341CQ 34.0" 3440x1440 100 Hz Monitor is there a good equivalent for 1440p?

I'd probably get this for a 16:9 1440P IPS panel.

PCPartPicker Part List

Monitor: Acer - VG271U Pbmiipx 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $389.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-03 07:25 EDT-0400

 

[ElectrO_90]

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: June 20th, 2019

Wait 2 more weeks after this and get the 3xxx series.

 

[Rivical]

I was thinking about waiting but what do you think would be the price point for the new series?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

• Ryzen 9 3900X—12C/24T, 3.8GHz to 4.6GHz, 70MB cache, 105W TDP, $499
• Ryzen 7 3800X—8C/16T, 3.9GHz to 4.5GHz, 36MB cache, 105W TDP, $399
• Ryzen 7 3700X—8C/16T, 3.6GHz to 4.4GHz, 36MB cache, 65W TDP, $329
• Ryzen 5 3600X—6C/12T, 3.8GHz to 4.4GHz, 35MB cache, 95W TDP, $249
• Ryzen 5 3600—6C/12T, 3.6GHz to 4.2GHz, 35MB cache, 65W TDP, $199

These all are confirmed. There will likely be a Ryzen 3 lineup and AMD accidentally confirmed there will be a 16 core.
According to gamers nexus, they asked AMD about a 16 core and AMD said something like "this platform started with 4 cores and we have quadrupled that"

 

[jeremyj_83]

I'd probably get this for a 16:9 1440P IPS panel.

PCPartPicker Part List

Monitor: Acer - VG271U Pbmiipx 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $389.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-03 07:25 EDT-0400

Could also go with a 3440x1440 panel.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pD...cq-340-3440x1440-100hz-monitor-optix-mag341cq

• Ryzen 9 3900X—12C/24T, 3.8GHz to 4.6GHz, 70MB cache, 105W TDP, $499
• Ryzen 7 3800X—8C/16T, 3.9GHz to 4.5GHz, 36MB cache, 105W TDP, $399
• Ryzen 7 3700X—8C/16T, 3.6GHz to 4.4GHz, 36MB cache, 65W TDP, $329
• Ryzen 5 3600X—6C/12T, 3.8GHz to 4.4GHz, 35MB cache, 95W TDP, $249
• Ryzen 5 3600—6C/12T, 3.6GHz to 4.2GHz, 35MB cache, 65W TDP, $199

These all are confirmed

The 3700X is the one that I think is the most interesting of the bunch. You should be able to OC it quite a bit and with the claimed 15% IPC improvement it would be worth it to wait two extra weeks and then see the 3rd party benchmarks.

 

[WildCard999]

@jeremyj_83, That was the original recommendation!

 

[NightHawkRMX]

@jeremyj_83, That was the original recommendation!

🤣😆🤣😆

 

[jeremyj_83]

@jeremyj_83, That was the original recommendation!

HAHAHA I missed that piece. Thanks

I have a 3440x1440 monitor, Samsung C34F791, and it is awesome for both productivity and gaming.

 

[WildCard999]

HAHAHA I missed that piece. Thanks

I have a 3440x1440 monitor, Samsung C34F791, and it is awesome for both productivity and gaming.

Nice monitor, once I have the extra cash for a better GPU I'll make the upgrade to 3440x1440P/100hz. At the time 2560x1080P/75hz was all I could afford but games still look great on it.

 

[jeremyj_83]

Nice monitor, once I have the extra cash for a better GPU I'll make the upgrade to 3440x1440P/100hz. At the time 2560x1080P/75hz was all I could afford but games still look great on it.

I need a serious GPU upgrade before I can run things at speed. Unless it is Rocket League, most games have to run at 1080p for me, I have a lowly R9-285 that I got back in early 2016.

 

[WildCard999]

I need a serious GPU upgrade before I can run things at speed. Unless it is Rocket League, most games have to run at 1080p for me, I have a lowly R9-285 that I got back in early 2016.

That's rough, friend just bought the 50th Anniversary Radeon VII to replace a GTX 780 and is waiting for me to install it. I'm pretty excited to check it out in person, looks glorious.

 

[jeremyj_83]

That's rough, friend just bought the 50th Anniversary Radeon VII to replace a GTX 780 and is waiting for me to install it. I'm pretty excited to check it out in person, looks glorious.

Thing is I use it for work quite often. It replaced my dual monitor setup and I can have 6 1024x768 remote consoles open at once so it is a give and take.

 

[cryoburner]

Could also go with a 3440x1440 panel.

For gaming, a GTX 1070 is likely going to have a hard time pushing 1440 ultrawide resolution in most newer and upcoming games at decent settings and frame rates. That's over a third more pixels the card needs to render compared to standard 1440p, or about 2.4x the pixels of 1080p. I don't think it would be an ideal option without a higher-end card, at least for gaming at the screen's native resolution.

I do agree that unless the system needs to be purchased on the 20th of June, it would probably be worth waiting a couple weeks longer to see what the new CPUs have to offer. The 8-core parts will certainly be more expensive than what first and second-gen Ryzen can be had for now, but if the IPC increases and higher clocks pan out, even the 6-core models might offer nearly the level of total multi-core performance as the existing 8-cores, while offering notably better performance at tasks that won't be utilizing so many threads. It remains to be seen whether the binning situation might be any different for these 7nm processors, but if the $199 3600 can be overclocked up near 4.5 GHz, that could make it a really nice option.

As for that cooler, unless you own it already, I would probably hold off for now to see what kind of cooling these new processors require for overclocking. For existing Ryzen processors, it's probably overkill, as they will tend to hit their overclocking limits before temperature becomes enough of a concern to justify a $150+ cooler. I would rather spend under $50 on an aftermarket tower cooler, and put the money saved toward components that can actually have some notable effect on system performance, like the CPU itself.

 

[Rivical]

@jeremyj_83 haha yeah I would love that monitor but as I said I don’t plan on doing 4K so I don’t think it’d be worth it.

I also wanna thank you all for all the help! I’ve changed out the ssd and psu and will wait the two weeks for the 3700x it’s pretty much the same price but I’m sure it’s better. Looks promising so I’m sure it’s worth the wait. The two weeks will also help add like $300 to my budget so that’s a plus. The only other main questions I have are, will that motherboard support the new series? I was also wondering if any of y’all knew of any good network cards and Bluetooth cards? I mentioned it the original post but have received no comments on it haha
Also the radiator is for looks and cooling, I know it may be a little excessive but I really want the all white rgb build with the ll120s so it works perfect for my needs! I’m still open to any other suggestions y’all have so feel free to post more!

 

[cryoburner]

haha yeah I would love that monitor but as I said I don’t plan on doing 4K so I don’t think it’d be worth it.

3440x1440 isn't 4K though. 4K would be 3840x2160, which is a considerably higher resolution still. In terms of approximate pixel counts...

1920 x 1080 (16:9) = 2.1 megapixels (100%)
2560 x 1080 (21:9) = 2.8 megapixels (133%)
2560 x 1440 (16:9) = 3.7 megapixels (178%)
3440 x 1440 (21:9) = 5.0 megapixels (239%)
3840 x 2160 (16:9) = 8.3 megapixels (400%)

And yeah, you would likely want a new X570 motherboard for those new processors, which are also not available quite yet. An X470 would technically work, but would require a BIOS update to support the new processor. And to perform that, you would also need a supported processor on-hand. So, it's probably a lot more convenient to simply go with a newer motherboard for anyone who doesn't already have an existing Ryzen system. Plus the new boards will support additional functionality of the new processors, like PCIe 4.0.