[SOLVED] Looking for new desktop

[lostone98]

Approximate Purchase Date: within six months

Budget Range:£1500-2000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Are you buying a monitor: Yes (samsung g9)

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: pc part picker

Location: South Wales

Parts Preferences: samsung g9, rtx 3080, Fractal Design Meshify 2 ATX Mid Tower Case


Overclocking: No

Additional Comments: Gaming at high refresh rate at 1440p , Witcher 3, alyx , Metro, Doom, Resident evil, Red dead redemption 2. Also to add may consider small form factor PC but a little bit nervous due to this being my first build.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: pc out of date

 

[Dj0gany]

You want a prebuild or a new pc?

 

[Dj0gany]

Acquiring a 3080 is questionable.
That is why im asking if you want a prebuild or a custom build.

 

[lostone98]

You want a prebuild or a new pc?

Could you recommend me both? If thats not to much to ask, just seeing my options.

 

[Dj0gany]

Could you recommend me both? If thats not to much to ask, just seeing my options.

No problem, of course.
Where do you live?

 

[Dj0gany]

Just saw you live in Wales...

 

[Dj0gany]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor (£403.19 @ Newegg UK)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£104.99 @ AWD-IT)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard (£199.98 @ Box Limited)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£217.49 @ Newegg UK)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£150.01 @ Novatech)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB EAGLE OC Video Card (£792.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (£79.90 @ More Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£128.94 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £2077.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-25 19:27 GMT+0000
3080 is 300-400 pounds more.

 

[Dj0gany]

Small form factor version:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor (£403.19 @ Newegg UK)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£90.43 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock X570M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£169.28 @ Technextday)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£217.49 @ Newegg UK)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£150.01 @ Novatech)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB VENTUS 2X OC Video Card (£762.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Corsair Crystal 280X RGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£150.00 @ Currys PC World)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£128.94 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £2072.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-25 19:32 GMT+0000

 

[lostone98]

Small form factor version:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor (£403.19 @ Newegg UK)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£90.43 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock X570M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£169.28 @ Technextday)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£217.49 @ Newegg UK)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£150.01 @ Novatech)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB VENTUS 2X OC Video Card (£762.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Corsair Crystal 280X RGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£150.00 @ Currys PC World)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£128.94 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £2072.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-25 19:32 GMT+0000

Is the Rtx 3080 much better then RTX 3070?

 

[Dj0gany]

Is the Rtx 3080 much better then RTX 3070?

Not much, but its better for 4K.
But since you are gaming at 1440p, 3070 is perfect.

 

[Dj0gany]

Can you actually get either of those builds at the price it says in pcpartpicker.

 

[lostone98]

Not much, but its better for 4K.
But since you are gaming at 1440p, 3070 is perfect.

Can the G9 screen do 4k? How much do you need to spend to do full 4k?

 

[Dj0gany]

Can the G9 screen do 4k? How much do you need to spend to do full 4k?

It cant.
Max resolution is 5120x1440p, ideal for a 3070 : )

 

[Why_Me]

Intel's 11th gen Rocket Lake due out in three weeks offers native support of 3200MHz RAM, PCIe 4 along with improved IPC. I used that Asrock B560 board in this build for the simple fact only a few of those new B560 boards have showed up on UK sites. Expect more to show up within the next few days. TBH though, this is the worst time ever to try and obtain a graphics card due to the shortage on them.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/fra...rk-tempered-glass-3x-140mm-fans-usb-31-type-c
Fractal Design Meshify 2 Black Dark Windowed Mid Tower PC Gaming Case £138.98

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/750...ngle-rail-fully-modular-62a-120mm-fan-atx-psu
Seasonic Focus GX 750 750W Modular 80+ Gold PSU £109.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asr...dr4-pcie-40-sata3-3x-m2-25gbe-usb-32-gen2-atx
ASRock B560 Steel Legend ATX Motherboard £129.98

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...e-date-specifications-performance-all-we-know
Intel 11th gen Rocket Lake i5 - 11400F (£135 - £140 if I had to guess)

https://www.box.co.uk/RR-212S-20PK-R1-Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-Black-Edition-CP_2412112.html
COOLER MASTER HYPER 212 BLACK EDITION CPU COOLER £34.99

https://www.ebuyer.com/743022-corsa...ram-3200mhz-c16-memory-kit-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 Memory Kit £74.20

https://www.ebuyer.com/1136129-wd-blue-sn550-2tb-m-2-pcie-nvme-ssd-solid-state-drive-wds200t2b0c
WD Blue SN550 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD £185.99

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/compu...70-8-gb-eagle-graphics-card-10217336-pdt.html
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB EAGLE Graphics Card £520.00

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/34-...s-freesync-12m1-350cd-m-hdmi-dp-g-sync-compat
Gigabyte 34" G34WQC 144Hz Freesync Premium VA Monitor £449.99

Total: £1,779

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/get-windows-10-free-or-cheap,5717.html
How to Get Windows 10 for Free (or Under $30)

Intel Rocket Lake hard launch tipped for Monday 15th March

And the same Hong Kong-based source says that ADL-S delivers a 20 per cent IPC uplift.

hexus.net

Intel 11th Gen Rocket Lake CPU Pre-Orders Open Two Weeks Before Reviews - Full Unveil on 16th March, Sales on 30th March

Intel will be launching its 11th Gen Rocket Lake CPU lineup on 16th of March with pre-orders opening up two weeks prior to sales and reviews.

wccftech.com

B560 boards on those links.

https://www.asus.com/microsite/motherboard/Intel-Rocket-Lake-Z590-H570-B560-series/ <--- Asus

https://www.msi.com/Landing/intel-z590-b560-h510-motherboard <--- MSI

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/Intel-B560 <--- Gigabyte

https://www.asrock.com/mb/index.asp <--- Asrock

A better look at that monitor.

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Monitor/G34WQC#kf

Here's two reviews of the current Intel 10th gen Comet Lake i5 10400F. Expect the newer Rocket Lake version of that chip (i5 11400F) to pump out better numbers for the reasons I stated at the top of this post.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-10400f/
Intel Core i5-10400F Review - Six Cores with HT for Under $200

https://4youdaily.com/technology-an...cessor-review-do-you-still-like-ryzen-5-3600/
Core i5-10400 and Core i5-10400F Processor Review: Do You Still Like Ryzen 5 3600?

https://hothardware.com/news/intel-core-i5-11400-rocket-lake-cpu-performance
Intel Core i5-11400 Rocket Lake CPU Annihilates Its 10th Gen Predecessor In Benchmark Leak

 

[Dj0gany]

Intel's 11th gen Rocket Lake due out in three weeks offers native support of 3200MHz RAM, PCIe 4 along with improved IPC. TBH though, this is the worst time ever to try and obtain a graphics card due to the shortage on them. I used that Asrock B560 board in this build for the simple fact only a few of those new B560 boards have showed up on UK sites. Expect more to show up within the next few days.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/fra...-tempered-glass-window-atx-matx-2x120mm-quiet
Fractal Design Meshify C TG Dark Tint, Mid Tower Chassis, Tempered Glass Window £99.98

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/750...ngle-rail-fully-modular-62a-120mm-fan-atx-psu
Seasonic Focus GX 750 750W Modular 80+ Gold PSU £109.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asr...dr4-pcie-40-sata3-3x-m2-25gbe-usb-32-gen2-atx
ASRock B560 Steel Legend ATX Motherboard £129.98

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...e-date-specifications-performance-all-we-know
Intel 11th gen Rocket Lake i5 - 11400F (£135 - £140 quid if I had to guess)

https://www.box.co.uk/RR-212S-20PK-R1-Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-Black-Edition-CP_2412112.html
COOLER MASTER HYPER 212 BLACK EDITION CPU COOLER £34.99

https://www.ebuyer.com/743022-corsa...ram-3200mhz-c16-memory-kit-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 Memory Kit £74.20

https://www.ebuyer.com/1136129-wd-blue-sn550-2tb-m-2-pcie-nvme-ssd-solid-state-drive-wds200t2b0c
WD Blue SN550 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD £185.99

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/compu...70-8-gb-eagle-graphics-card-10217336-pdt.html
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB EAGLE Graphics Card £520.00

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/34-...s-freesync-12m1-350cd-m-hdmi-dp-g-sync-compat
Gigabyte 34" G34WQC 144Hz Freesync Premium VA Monitor £449.99

Total: £1,740

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/get-windows-10-free-or-cheap,5717.html
How to Get Windows 10 for Free (or Under $30)

Intel Rocket Lake hard launch tipped for Monday 15th March

And the same Hong Kong-based source says that ADL-S delivers a 20 per cent IPC uplift.

hexus.net

B560 boards on those links.

https://www.asus.com/microsite/motherboard/Intel-Rocket-Lake-Z590-H570-B560-series/ <--- Asus

https://www.msi.com/Landing/intel-z590-b560-h510-motherboard <--- MSI

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/Intel-B560 <--- Gigabyte

https://www.asrock.com/mb/index.asp <--- Asrock

A better look at that monitor.

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Monitor/G34WQC#kf

Here's two reviews of the current Intel 10th gen Comet Lake i5 10400F. Expect the newer Rocket Lake version of that chip (i5 11400F) to pump out better numbers for the reasons I stated at the top of this post.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-10400f/
Intel Core i5-10400F Review - Six Cores with HT for Under $200

https://4youdaily.com/technology-an...cessor-review-do-you-still-like-ryzen-5-3600/
Core i5-10400 and Core i5-10400F Processor Review: Do You Still Like Ryzen 5 3600?

https://hothardware.com/news/intel-core-i5-11400-rocket-lake-cpu-performance
Intel Core i5-11400 Rocket Lake CPU Annihilates Its 10th Gen Predecessor In Benchmark Leak

How do you not get tired of putting so much stuff in a reply man xD
I would've quit before the Windows thing.
Much respect for doing it that way though : )

 

[Why_Me]

How do you not get tired of putting so much stuff in a reply man xD
I would've quit before the Windows thing.
Much respect for doing it that way though : )

I pretty much use the same copy & paste from my previous post. It cuts down on the OP having to look this stuff up.

 

[lostone98]

It cant.
Max resolution is 5120x1440p, ideal for a 3070 : )

I don't know if you can answer this but how long will it last (compatibility wise with modern games)? I have a gtx 690 and to be honest its still got life in it but its a bit old as I had it since it came out lol

 

[Dj0gany]

I don't know if you can answer this but how long will it last (compatibility wise with modern games)? I have a gtx 690 and to be honest its still got life in it but its a bit old as I had it since it came out lol

Depends on the game but you should see 5 years of usage atleast.

 

[lostone98]

Depends on the game but you should see 5 years of usage atleast.

I have learning difficulties (Autism) Could you be honest, is it easy building a PC? I been told its not hard but I don't have a very good concept of building computer's and very clumsy. so i'm a bit nervous with breaking parts. Thanks for the help

 

[Dj0gany]

I have learning difficulties (Autism) Could you be honest, is it easy building a PC? I been told its not hard but I don't have a very good concept of building computer's and very clumsy. so i'm a bit nervous with breaking parts. Thanks for the help

Im sad to hear that.
There are a ton of guides on how to build a pc.
What i like to do is link people my YT playlist of all the videos needed to build a pc.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqb4fdDIN1jh5ghPiv2v3yxrsPl5BMoPH
If you need any help, just say so : )

 

[Dj0gany]

Typically the only hard part about building pc for me was to find courage to do so, since you dont want to break stuff.
And even when i knew some stuff, i was still sceptical if i should do it.
On day i just decided to go full send and swap cases (replacing my old Lenovo case one with a gaming one) and it worked first try!
The worst thing is probably the front panel imo.
Be gentle with components, build on the motherboard box, it is a great surface since it doesnt attract static and its flat and safe, when mounting the cooler make sure to follow the guide since that is probably the hardest part for some people since you have to push really hard to install it (depends on the cooler ,but intel stock coolers need force to be installed).
The RAM and GPU are probably the easiest part.
Ram is just a matter of unclipping those 2 clips and making sure that you turn the ram stick the right way.
For the GPU, you want to plugg it into the motherboard,then screw it into the case,then plugg in the power cables.
Power cables for the GPU might require some force, but just grab onto the gpu and make sure it doesnt move as you are applying force.
You should either hear a click or just see if its all the way in.
The route that i take when building pc's is:
Install the PSU in the case > then move onto the cpu/cpu cooler/mobo/ram (the part where you build on the motherboard's box) > then do the fans if you have any > then the front panel > and the GPU at the end.
After that it either turns on the first try and you are greeted with BIOS screen, where you check everything if its recognized, and running as it should be, and the windows installation.
If anything goes wrong, or you are scared to do something, be sure to reply to us : )

 

[Dj0gany]

One thing i should mention and not scare you is that i have a Lenovo IH61M motherboard,which is a OEM motherboard.
Aka some things on it are different from the others.
Such as front panel connectivity.
You see, with these Lenovo, Dell, etc.. system's, motherboards are ussually made only to run in the configuration they ship with.
Which often means they dont accept different hardware as easily as a 'normal' motherboard (from GIGABYTE,ASUS,ASROCK,MSI,etc..), such as a CPU upgrade for example.
Also their front panel connectors are all slapped onto together into 1 big connector, rather than splitting them in HDDLED + or - , RESET, POWER, etc.. i think you get the point.
So long story short i had a hard time finding someone who wanted to do the same thing as me, and i wanted a front panel scheme, and who would've thought i found it here!

 

[lostone98]

Im sad to hear that.
There are a ton of guides on how to build a pc.
What i like to do is link people my YT playlist of all the videos needed to build a pc.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqb4fdDIN1jh5ghPiv2v3yxrsPl5BMoPH
If you need any help, just say so : )

Its ok and thank you, you're a credit to this site. you helped me loads.

Does the "Corsair Crystal 280X RGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case" have good air flow?

 

[Dj0gany]

Its ok and thank you, you're a credit to this site. you helped me loads.

Does the "Corsair Crystal 280X RGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case" have good air flow?

Its solid.
2 at the front and 2 on the top.
Mount the 240mm aio on the top and ur all good.