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Hello,
I just brought a new gigabyt 7950 oc but my card is not giving the frames shown in benchmarks in its reviews in games like the witcher 2 and skyrim. Is it my card , the version of reviewers game ( they use the enhanced edition while im using v1.1 for the witcher) or is it simply cux the reviewers have a killer rig? i mean their cpu rams etc r top of the line.
 
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I hope you don't mind me on here and not trying to jeopardize this forum. I have the same issue with FPS drops. I have MSI Twin Frozr III 7950, when I first got it, I had decent FPS on all Ultra setting on battlefield until recently I dropped abnormally. So I am hoping we both can the same answer in this forum figuring out how to resolve this issue. I have good specifications even I ocerclocked my CPU AMD 965 BE from 3.4 to 3.8GHz using hyper 212 cooler and kept it under 45C under loaded. It just happened this week for me and I am getting irritated as well. 12.7 Beta here as well. I hope our card aren't defected D:
 
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BF3 is a big CPU bottleneck in multiplayer. Is this something you've noticed in multiplayer or singleplayer. Did you start playing new maps, the bigger and more players, the more of a CPU bottleneck you'd have.

You may want to make sure your CPU is still overclocked. At least some motherboards will default back to stock clocks if you have a crash.
 
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I change it thru using motherboard bio and it still is the same as I set it to. My GPU is at 99% load and CPU is usually under 40% load. So I don't see any bottlenecking here. I always play on 64 player TDM, Conquest and Domination, I had decent FPS without Vsync I had 100+ FPS till now something has happened I am betting its the game itself because I play on Fallout 3, ultra details and I don't see any drops. It's just plain weird. Maybe driver issues that need to be updated once again by AMD and yet no luck :-/
 
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Funny thing is I even lowered the setting and the FPS goes up for a few minutes till a few minutes it dropped back to 29-44. It's a bit stuttery I can tell you that. But it has never happen till now 🙁
 
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On 64 player large maps, everyone gets drops below 60. It's your CPU. It is the bottleneck. AMD CPU's are much slower than Intel.

40% usage does not mean it does not have a bottleneck. Though it's possible you have some other issue as well, you are going to experience drops to about 30 in multiplayer on an AMD CPU. 40% usage means if you add up the power used on every core. The bottleneck happens on a single core, while other cores have low usage. Add all the core usage up and average them, and you end up with 40% usage.
 
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I had the CPU for 4 months, the graphic for 2, and they hav3 not given me any trouble at all while playing. Intel i5 and AMD 965 BE are on par tho i5 is greater due to their speed slightly, but still AMD CPU isn't the causes. I always do researches before buying parts for gaming PC. A lot of people I talked to are using AMD 965 Black Edition and never had any bottlenecks. So we can rule out the AMD CPU. I think it might be the card that's defective I doubt it due to MSI decent made card that's made for overclocking.
 
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I did not say your troubles are because of the AMD processor. I said it's worse with the AMD processor. AMD CPU's do fine in most cases. If you look up an average FPS chart for several games, AMD CPU will look nearly the same as Intel's. The reason is because most games are more GPU bound than CPU bound. If the game is not held back by the CPU, they perform nearly the same. However, in games in which the CPU holds back FPS, like multiplayer BF3, or Skyrim, you will see lower FPS on an AMD CPU.

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All of these are at 3.0Ghz. What makes this worse is that the Intel CPU's generally clock higher.

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=703662
Look at this post. You'll see with a stock i7 860 at 2.8ghz, he gets dips that are very low. To under 30 FPS. Once he OC's to 4Ghz, those minimums go over 50.

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I am finding it hard to find tests for multiplayer and Phenom's. It seems BF3 likes more than 4 cores, so the hex core AMD cpu's do well, but looking at the Phenom 980, it didn't perform so well.

Anyways, your dips are a common problem in multiplayer, intel or AMD. When a game is CPU bound, and AMD CPU bottlenecks the game more. In a handful of cases, more than 4 cores does prove useful. Even the I7 hyperthreading helped, where it commonly does nothing.

Edit: Btw, I saw a lot of reviews of your CPU, and when OC'ed to 3.9Ghz, it just finally gets comparable to the i7 920 at stock (2.67Ghz) for gaming at least. It's not comparable to an i5-2500k.
 
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Keep in mind, you are experiencing dips, not prolonged low FPS. When the CPU is not bottlenecking, the GPU is 99%, when the CPU is bottlenecking, for those moments, the GPU usage drops and yes, an OC would help raise the minimums, but it may not do much to the average. You may also be using too high of settings.
 
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Often that's an indication of a CPU bottleneck. Graphical settings in many games put all the stress on the GPU, although some games will use the CPU for some settings.

See if an OC on the CPU helps. Otherwise, there is something else going on. Perhaps driver related.
 
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BF3 gives everyone troubles on some multiplayer maps, it just gives AMD a little extra trouble. You don't have to upgrade, you just will occasionally suffer a larger bottleneck than having gone with an i5-2500k.
 
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Can you give link for good motherboard and good intel processor? So I can add wish list from newegg.
 
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toms tend to give the average fps on there tests. only recently have they started putting the all important minimum.
what your seeing on witcher 2 qnd bf3 are the correct fps for the cards your using...
the biggest variance will be down to the ram. amd cpus benefit a lot more form higher frequency ram than intel cpu's do but intel cpu's do like lower latencies.
you can spend all the money you want on new motherboards and cpu's but if your running on anything stronger than a first gen i5 750 then you will see roughly 0 fps increase in your games on the most part. on bf3 you will see a slight gain if you have a hyperthreading cpu nut not a huge amount. reason being 1s you get over 2.4 ghz theres very little gained benefits to gaming. reason being is programmers write there waits in seconds not cpu cycles. so you can have a 4.2 ghz cpu and a 2.4 ghz cpu running the same game at the same fps and the difference will only show in overall cpu usage. the faster cpu will likely only use 60% while the slower 1 will be near 97%.
if the waits in games were set in cpu cycles then games would run faster or slower depending on the speed of the cpu and all cpu's would be maxing out at 97%+

waits* in the programming sense is a set time between 2 events happening. wait for event A then do b and if A and B are correct then do C
 
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I hope Asrock is a great brand and I noticed it has 3.0 PCIe slots 😀 great selection there mate, and as for CPU, Does it give great FPS than the 2500k? And do I need to overclock it in order to get great FPS? :-/ or it doesnt matter since stock and overclock gives good performances?
 
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The CPU doesn't really generate FPS, but the CPU sometimes determines the maximum FPS you can get when the game is heavily using the CPU. That means it helps lift your minimums in some games, like BF3, and can play a bigger role in things like SC2.

Yes, that is a great CPU. It's the Ivy bridge version of the i5-2500k, which is newer, though not much faster.
 
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The cpu is around 5-10% faster than 2500k. As for Asrock, it's a decent brand. This specific board won Tom's Hardware motherboard award:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/z77-express-ivy-bridge-benchmark,review-32489.html
 
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I meant will it be worth the extra money? I realy dont wana make a hasty decision abt it
 
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I feel u man. I used to play on a 6870, dual core cpu, 4 gb ddr2 when the game came out but gradualy after every update my fps started decreasing. In multiplyer i usualy get 60+ fps but i keep msaa off. But i do get stuterings and i mean BAD stuterings but they are almost always in karkand maps when im veiwing the whole city with 50+ players then fps drops to 45ish. (and one part of caspian near a fence even though there is nothing there so i figured must b a glitch). but all in all i think its cux of my cpu and ping(150+ ms ping )
 
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I agreed it can be the CPU, but still, FPS dropping on Battlefield is unacceptable for me. I spend a lot of money and especially went over my budgets to get a decent FPS. It gave me a decent FPS till recently it dropped like some type of encoding in the game is broken or maybe there's hackers on the servers that lagged most of the time. there are too many theories and complications for gaming, it's bull, why can't everything be just as simple.
 
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I upgraded mainly cux of bf3 too. But after each update they are like leeching the fps out of AMD cards. I read so many posts on battlelog forums in which people were complaining about fps drop and yes like 99% of them had AMD. By the way are there any specific maps in which u get lag spikes? Or general. AS i said i have issues with B2K maps only. Also which settings are u using?
 
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