Question Macrium Reflect Scheduled Backup - - - - Windows 10 password problem ?

[smalltech]

Hi,

Some questions about Macrium Reflect v8

In my old PC (Macrium Reflect Home v6)(Windows 10 Home), I create a windows login password then I create a scheduled backup, during the process of creating a scheduled backup I see this [Scheduled Tasks User Name] screen that requires [User Name] (note: User Name auto filled in by Macrium) [Password] and I enter my windows login password in the Password box, scheduled backup works successfully. FYI, [Scheduled Tasks User Name] box as seen in https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/d...and+password+is+used+when+scheduling+a+backup

In my new PC (Macrium Reflect Home v8)(Windows 10 Pro), I did not create a windows login password then I created a scheduled backup, during the process of creating a scheduled backup I did not see this [Scheduled Tasks User Name] screen, scheduled backup works successfully.

Q1) Now in my new PC (Macrium Reflect Home v8) I will create a windows login password, how do I ensure that the scheduled backup (that was created during no windows login password) will be able to work successfully after I create a windows login password?

Q2a) Now in my new PC (Macrium Reflect Home v8) after I create a windows login password, where to find the [Scheduled Tasks User Name] screen to input my windows login password into the password box?

Q2b) Now in my new PC (Macrium Reflect Home v8) after I create a windows login password, do I need to fill in windows login password at [Scheduled Tasks User Name] for the scheduled backup to work correctly?

Q2c) Now in my new PC (Macrium Reflect Home v8) after I create a windows login password, do I need to delete the scheduled backup and recreate the scheduled backup again?

Q2d) If my new PC (Macrium Reflect Home v8) has a windows login password then I create Macrium scheduled backup, during Macrium Reflect Home v8 create scheduled backup process does [Scheduled Tasks User Name] screen appear to tell me to input my windows login password?

Q3) Is the purpose of input windows login password into Macrium [Scheduled Tasks User Name] so that the Macrium scheduled backup works successfully even during the PC is at the windows login screen before entering into windows (without entering the windows password manually by myself at the windows login screen)?

Q4) Does Macrium Reflect Home v8 scheduled backup or any feature still require user to enter windows login password into Macrium to work correctly?

Q5) In what situations do I need to enter windows login password at the password box at [Macrium Reflect v8>Other Tasks>Edit Defaults and Settings>Schedule Settings], screenshot https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW80/Schedule+Settings

Q6) Does Macrium Reflect v8 require windows login password to work for any Macrium Reflect v8 scheduled backups or Macrium Reflect v8 features?

These is the timeline of what I have done.

My new PC (Macrium Reflect Home v8)(Windows 10 Pro) is switched on everyday 24 hours, at 11pm before I sleep I will lock screen (Windows key and the L key) until 7am next day. PC is untouched from 11pm to 7am.

13 Mar to 16 Mar 9pm no windows login password created in the new PC, brand new PC that does not have any windows login password.
13 Mar 9pm I create an incremental scheduled backup to do incremental backup daily at 4am, during the process of creating the scheduled backup I did not see this [Scheduled Tasks User Name] screen so no windows login password input is required in Macrium Reflect v8, this scheduled backup works successfully from 14 Mar to 18 Mar.
14 Mar 4am scheduled backup works successfully
15 Mar 4am scheduled backup works successfully
16 Mar 4am scheduled backup works successfully
16 Mar 9pm I created a windows login password in my new PC. Macrium Reflect v8 software untouched.
17 Mar 4am scheduled backup works successfully
18 Mar 4am scheduled backup works successfully
18 Mar 9am I delete all scheduled task and delete all backup definition files, then redo (redo 13 Mar step) create an incremental scheduled backup to do incremental backup daily at 4am, during the process of creating the scheduled backup I did not see this [Scheduled Tasks User Name] screen so no windows login password input is required in Macrium Reflect v8.

I noticed 18 Mar 9am and 13 Mar steps to create an incremental scheduled backup are exactly the same, so my conclusion is Macrium Reflect v8 does not require windows login password even if a windows login password was created in the PC and Macrium will still be able to create backup successfully when windows is at windows login screen (before entering windows).

It seems like Macrium Reflect v8 does not require windows login password at all, correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks

 

[Ralston18]

Are you running Macrium Reflect 8 via Windows Admin account or a Windows User Account?

Perhaps the following Macrium link will help:

https://updates.macrium.com/help/v5/how_to/backup/schedule_backups.htm

From the link:

"You can configure the task to run as a different user, however they must have Administrator privileges."

 

[USAFRet]

Within Macrium, when you start to create an image to some other drive...it asks you for the username/password of that resource.
In the schedule, it can save that login data.

 

[smalltech]

Are you running Macrium Reflect 8 via Windows Admin account or a Windows User Account?

Perhaps the following Macrium link will help:

https://updates.macrium.com/help/v5/how_to/backup/schedule_backups.htm

From the link:

"You can configure the task to run as a different user, however they must have Administrator privileges."

I am using Windows Admin account. I think the link you provided is for Macrium reflect version 5 since the word v5 is on the url.

Within Macrium, when you start to create an image to some other drive...it asks you for the username/password of that resource.
In the schedule, it can save that login data.

My experience is if the Windows PC has created a Windows login password, Macrium asks me for Windows login password (username auto filled in by Macrium) during I am creating a scheduled incremental backup on v6 only, v8 does not ask me for Windows login password. I only tried v6 and v8.

My understanding is from v7 onwards, Macrium reflect uses SYSTEM account by default so it does not require any Windows login password.

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Info I read:
"Reflect will use whichever scheduler you have selected in the drop-down box. The SYSTEM account is selected by default and, I believe, that is so a password is not needed to start the backup."

"The scheduling engine used for starting scheduled backups and the user account under which scheduled backups run are two different things. The ability to use the SYSTEM account was introduced for V7. Prior to that, you had to use a "real" user account, which meant that if you ever changed the password of your account, scheduled backups would break until you remembered to update Reflect. Or you had to avoid that by creating an account dedicated to Reflect backups. However, the SYSTEM account has no implicit network access, and in some cases it can be convenient to run the backup as an account that already has access to network resources rather than configuring network logon credentials in Reflect. That's especially true if you're trying to use Reflect to make backups of data that on the network, rather than just backing up TO the network, since Reflect only uses its stored credentials to access destinations. Using Windows accounts to gain network access is more common in Active Directory environments, but it can also be used if you have a NAS and make sure it has a user account with the same username and password as your Windows account."

source https://forum.macrium.com/48570/Macrium-Task-Scheduler-vs-Windows-Scheduler

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[smalltech]

The only questions I have now are these 2 questions.

Q5) In what situations do I need to enter windows login password at the password box at [Macrium Reflect v8>Other Tasks>Edit Defaults and Settings>Schedule Settings], screenshot https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW80/Schedule+Settings

Q6) Does Macrium Reflect v8 require windows login password to work for any Macrium Reflect v8 scheduled backups or Macrium Reflect v8 features?

 

[smalltech]

The only questions I have now are these 2 questions.

Q5) In what situations do I need to enter windows login password at the password box at [Macrium Reflect v8>Other Tasks>Edit Defaults and Settings>Schedule Settings], screenshot https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW80/Schedule+Settings

Q6) Does Macrium Reflect v8 require windows login password to work for any Macrium Reflect v8 scheduled backups or Macrium Reflect v8 features?

Maybe I have solved Q5), I discovered the screenshot at https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW80/Schedule+Settings if the box is ticked (by default is ticked) for [Use the Windows SYSTEM account to run scheduled tasks], the User Name box and Password box are greyed out so it does not require any Windows login User Name or Password, if the box is unticked for [Use the Windows SYSTEM account to run scheduled tasks], the User Name box and Password box are not greyed out so it requires Windows login User Name and Password, so I guess if I unticked [Use the Windows SYSTEM account to run scheduled tasks] then it uses Windows Admin account then it requires a Windows login User Name and Password.