Made my parts lists. Now- Intel Or AMD?

[IndecisiveBacon]

Looked around and made these two part lists and I don't know which one to choose.
AMD: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/God_Of_War145/saved/2n3A
Intel: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/God_Of_War145/saved/2hzA
EDITED THE PARTS

 

[IndecisiveBacon]

Okay maybe he doesn't need a GTX 770, but the thing is that your build is more expensive than the one I recommended yet the one I recommended still performs better? Sounds like your build doesn't have a very good price/performance ratio.

The Corsair H100i is definitely loud. The pump makes a lot of noise: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/corsair_h100i_review,10.html
A high end air cooler is only about 20dba MAX, while the Corsair H100i is about 45 max.
Air coolers like the Noctua NH-D14 is much cheaper than the Corsair H100i (save about $20-30), performs nearly the same (Corsair H100i performs a bit better, but not worth the extra noise and money IMHO), and you don't need to worry about any leaks (AoI liquid coolers does have a chance of leaking).

Actually,, the one me and edogawa built is only $60 more. These are the part lists:
AMD: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/God_Of_War145/saved/2n6S
INTEL: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1CNHa
Personally, i think i would rather go with the AMD build seeing how much more i can get.

 

[edogawa]

@realchaos
The h100i is worth investing if you don't want a large ugly heat sink stick out, and it's easy to clean with an air compressor or air can.

I have an h100i in one of my systems, it is not loud at all, I barely even hear the fans or the pump. Also the chance of all in ones leaking is rare.


Here is the build I setup for him as a recommendation:

He's only going to do light gaming now with one card, but if he went SLI 760s he would technically get better price/performance.
He'd probably want to go with the Noctua or H80i if he wanted to overclock though.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.79 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($77.98 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($117.85 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($249.00 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($249.00 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.46 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($27.59 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1353.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-12 19:51 EDT-0400)

 

[edogawa]

Okay maybe he doesn't need a GTX 770, but the thing is that your build is more expensive than the one I recommended yet the one I recommended still performs better? Sounds like your build doesn't have a very good price/performance ratio.

The Corsair H100i is definitely loud. The pump makes a lot of noise: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/corsair_h100i_review,10.html
A high end air cooler is only about 20dba MAX, while the Corsair H100i is about 45 max.
Air coolers like the Noctua NH-D14 is much cheaper than the Corsair H100i (save about $20-30), performs nearly the same (Corsair H100i performs a bit better, but not worth the extra noise and money IMHO), and you don't need to worry about any leaks (AoI liquid coolers does have a chance of leaking).

Actually,, the one me and edogawa built is only $60 more. These are the part lists:
AMD: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/God_Of_War145/saved/2n6S
INTEL: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1CNHa
Personally, i think i would rather go with the AMD build seeing how much more i can get.

AMD can be a good route, it's budget friendly.

 

[IndecisiveBacon]

Okay maybe he doesn't need a GTX 770, but the thing is that your build is more expensive than the one I recommended yet the one I recommended still performs better? Sounds like your build doesn't have a very good price/performance ratio.

The Corsair H100i is definitely loud. The pump makes a lot of noise: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/corsair_h100i_review,10.html
A high end air cooler is only about 20dba MAX, while the Corsair H100i is about 45 max.
Air coolers like the Noctua NH-D14 is much cheaper than the Corsair H100i (save about $20-30), performs nearly the same (Corsair H100i performs a bit better, but not worth the extra noise and money IMHO), and you don't need to worry about any leaks (AoI liquid coolers does have a chance of leaking).

Actually,, the one me and edogawa built is only $60 more. These are the part lists:
AMD: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/God_Of_War145/saved/2n6S
INTEL: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1CNHa
Personally, i think i would rather go with the AMD build seeing how much more i can get.

AMD can be a good route, it's budget friendly.

Yea, thats why i like it. I also get an SSD and a Monitor that the intel build cant support. (budget wise)

 

[edogawa]

You should like this build then:

7970 GPU through newegg comes with free games.

For gaming though I'd probably recommend a GTX 670, it's better than a 760 by a little bit:

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx670dc22gd5


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($154.98 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($124.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($77.98 @ NCIX)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.79 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.46 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.79 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($279.00 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $1390.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-12 20:06 EDT-0400)

 

[realchaos]

You can definitely get an intel build with a SSD and monitor at the same price:
My I ask what games you want to play/planning to play?
If you're fine without a 144hz monitor (which isn't all that necessary), this is a viable option:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.79 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.30 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.79 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ NCIX)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($48.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.50 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($178.00 @ Vuugo)
Total: $1384.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-12 20:24 EDT-0400)

The monitor is IPS so you'll have better image quality.

 

[IndecisiveBacon]

You should like this build then:

7970 GPU through newegg comes with free games.

For gaming though I'd probably recommend a GTX 670, it's better than a 760 by a little bit:

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx670dc22gd5


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($154.98 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($124.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($77.98 @ NCIX)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.79 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.46 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.79 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($279.00 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $1390.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-12 20:06 EDT-0400)

Alright, So right now, i'm trying to get it under $1500, its currently at $1515 so i dont know if adding more stuff will help! LOL

 

[IndecisiveBacon]

You can definitely get an intel build with a SSD and monitor at the same price:
My I ask what games you want to play/planning to play?
If you're fine without a 144hz monitor (which isn't all that necessary), this is a viable option:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.79 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.30 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.79 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ NCIX)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($48.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.50 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($178.00 @ Vuugo)
Total: $1384.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-12 20:24 EDT-0400)

The monitor is IPS so you'll have better image quality.

This seems like a pretty good deal for everything. Shipping included?

 

[realchaos]

DirectCanada offers free shipping on orders over $50.
NCIX and Vuugo doesn't offer free shipping. If you can post your zip code, we can calculate the shipping for you.

 

[IndecisiveBacon]

DirectCanada offers free shipping on orders over $50.
NCIX and Vuugo doesn't offer free shipping. If you can post your zip code, we can calculate the shipping for you.

R0A 0H0 - So DirectCanada is the way to go if you don't want to pay shipping?

 

[realchaos]

Shipping for the NCIX orders will be $19.06 excluding the NZXT Phantom 410 and $37.08 including the Phantom 410.
I know shipping cases costs a lot since they're pretty big and heavy.
Directcanada is probably one of the best sites due to no shipping but using other sites allows you to utilize more deals and it may make things cheaper even with shipping. I can't think of any other free shipping websites in Canada.

 

[IndecisiveBacon]

Shipping for the NCIX orders will be $19.06 excluding the NZXT Phantom 410 and $37.08 including the Phantom 410.
I know shipping cases costs a lot since they're pretty big and heavy.
Directcanada is probably one of the best sites due to no shipping but using other sites allows you to utilize more deals and it may make things cheaper even with shipping. I can't think of any other free shipping websites in Canada.

About how long is Free Ground Shipping for DirectCanada?

 

[realchaos]

I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure you can google around and find it though.
It's mostly more on how you are from their warehouse though.

 

[IndecisiveBacon]

I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure you can google around and find it though.
It's mostly more on how you are from their warehouse though.

I think im going to go with Direct Canada... should i get a new monitor right away or what until after.. Around christmas?

This is my build nooow.. So many changes lol http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1D5oY

 

[realchaos]

Get this PSU instead: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1750bbefx
Higher quality, 80+ gold, and only $2 more when bought at directcanada.

This ram is better: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbsr
Slightly faster and lower profile for nearly the same price.

If you're going to buy the GPU from NCIX, this is a better buy: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr795wf33gd
Higher stock clock and cheaper.

There's no real need for a Maximum board. The main advantage of it over other boards is the better onboard audio. Not worth it, IMHO.
You can get this from NCIX: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz87xud3h
Or this from DirectCanada: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87g45gaming

About the monitor, what's your current monitor?

 

[IndecisiveBacon]

Get this PSU instead: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1750bbefx
Higher quality, 80+ gold, and only $2 more when bought at directcanada.

This ram is better: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbsr
Slightly faster and lower profile for nearly the same price.

If you're going to buy the GPU from NCIX, this is a better buy: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr795wf33gd
Higher stock clock and cheaper.

There's no real need for a Maximum board. The main advantage of it over other boards is the better onboard audio. Not worth it, IMHO.
You can get this from NCIX: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz87xud3h
Or this from DirectCanada: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87g45gaming

About the monitor, what's your current monitor?

Currently have a 1680x1050p monitor. Fixed the board, and the ram. Sticking with the Asus 7950 because of the quieter cooler and is almost as efficient as the Windforce coolers. (Without OC)

 

[realchaos]

It's most advised that you buy a 1080p monitor when you can. If you feel like that monitor is fine for now and want to wait until thanksgiving / christmas / good sales because money is tight, then by all means wait.

 

[IndecisiveBacon]

It's most advised that you buy a 1080p monitor when you can. If you feel like that monitor is fine for now and want to wait until thanksgiving / christmas / good sales because money is tight, then by all means wait.

Alright I'll grab one on black friday or something.

 

[IndecisiveBacon]

It's most advised that you buy a 1080p monitor when you can. If you feel like that monitor is fine for now and want to wait until thanksgiving / christmas / good sales because money is tight, then by all means wait.

Doublepost, but what do you think this computer will perform like?

 

[realchaos]

Well with an overclocked Intel i5 and a 7950, it should do fairly well in games. At your current monitor resolution, it should be able to max out or nearly max out every game out there. Once you upgrade to 1080p, it should still be able to max out a lot of games while maintaining about high settings on the higher-end games.

 

[IndecisiveBacon]

Well with an overclocked Intel i5 and a 7950, it should do fairly well in games. At your current monitor resolution, it should be able to max out or nearly max out every game out there. Once you upgrade to 1080p, it should still be able to max out a lot of games while maintaining about high settings on the higher-end games.

Sounds worth upgrading too haha. I'm really iffy about Windows 8. Is there a desktop mode you can switch to?

 

[edogawa]

This thread took off while I was away lol. Windows 8 IS better than Windows 7. Install Start8 or one of the other free ones to make Windows 8 GUI just like Windows 7.


-The build I posted above is over 1500 for you? It should be about 1400
-Don't get that low end IPS panel, it won't be good for gaming, only a few high quality IPS are worth it.
-Windows 8 is solid and stable since launch for me, not a single BSOD from it.
-Stick with the 650 watt power supply and go with a single 7950, then another 7950 later if you want to Crossfire.
-The higher refresh rate will make games very fluid and feel so much better for shooters.
-While the sniper memory above is good, the rip jaws have much better timings at 1866, so stick with the ripjaws.


You have black Friday type deals in Canada?


With a 7950 instead:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($154.98 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($124.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($77.98 @ NCIX)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.79 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($224.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.46 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.79 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($279.00 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $1325.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-12 22:16 EDT-0400)

 

[realchaos]

Windows 8 is great. There's multiple advantages to Windows 8, such as faster booting time and better security.
If you want to make it look like Windows 7, download this program called Start8.
It allows you skip the metro screen (so you boot directly to desktop), and it adds a start menu back just like Windows 7.

-There's nothing wrong with one of those cheaper IPS panels. Sure, they won't be as good as the high end IPS ones, but it's still better than a regular panel.
-It's more advised to go 750w when you're going to crossfire/SLI. That way when you overclock your processor and graphics card, you're psu won't be under 100% load.

 

[IndecisiveBacon]

This thread took off while I was away lol. Windows 8 IS better than Windows 7. Install Start8 or one of the other free ones to make Windows 8 GUI just like Windows 7.


-The build I posted above is over 1500 for you? It should be about 1400
-Don't get that low end IPS panel, it won't be good for gaming, only a few high quality IPS are worth it.
-Windows 8 is solid and stable since launch for me, not a single BSOD from it.
-Stick with the power 650 watt power supply and go with a single 7950, then another 7950 later if you want to Crossfire.

The build you gave me was $1515. I live in a rural area of Canada and it costs alot to ship to me.
I'm going to hold off for the monitor until black friday or something.
Gonna get the app to switch it so it looks like Windows 7.
750w PSU. I prefer modular over non-modular. Less cords to deal with.

 

[IndecisiveBacon]

Windows 8 is great. There's multiple advantages to Windows 8, such as faster booting time and better security.
If you want to make it look like Windows 7, download this program called Start8.
It allows you skip the metro screen (so you boot directly to desktop), and it adds a start menu back just like Windows 7.

-There's nothing wrong with one of those cheaper IPS panels. Sure, they won't be as good as the high end IPS ones, but it's still better than a regular panel.
-It's more advised to go 750w when you're going to crossfire/SLI. That way when you overclock your processor and graphics card, you're psu won't be under 100% load.

Exactly. I'd rather have more than enough power by ~100w rather than be at 100% all the time. I do plan on overclocking anyways.