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[javi4911]

Hey everyone!

I was recommended to this site to get feedback on new builds on a desktop. Just wanted to know if this build would satisfy my needs. I mostly want to use this computer for gaming and personal use. I want this computer to last me a long time and my price range is less than $1200. i already have my tv as my monitor. Thank you for your help. I truly appreciate it.




EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 01G-P3-1563-AR Video Card
Item #:N82E16814130610
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
$254.99


Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy
$99.99



ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
$19.99


RAIDMAX Tornado ATX-238WU Black / Blue SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$49.99


COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible with Intel 1366/1155/775 and AMD FM1/FM2/AM3+
$34.99


Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I72600K
$319.99

Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$109.99


G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL
$36.99


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[lt_dan_zsu]

The 650ti was always worse. The 7870 is on par with the 660ti. The 7970 is barely weaker, but it trades blows with the 680 unoverclocked. Most benchmarks have it ahead now. So mathamatically speaking, it is better. Now the 670 is still better, but it is also a lot more than the 7950. All of the amd cards are better price per performance. With overclocking they easily surpass their nvidia counterparts, even when the nvidia cards are oced, because they can't oc nearly as well.

 

[Guest]

The 650ti was always worse. The 7870 is on par with the 660ti. The 7970 is barely weaker, but it trades blows with the 680 unoverclocked. Most benchmarks have it ahead now. So mathamatically speaking, it is better. Now the 670 is still better, but it is also a lot more than the 7950. All of the amd cards are better price per performance. With overclocking they easily surpass their nvidia counterparts, even when the nvidia cards are oced, because they can't oc nearly as well.

I don't want this to turn personal in anyway, so I hope im not angering you at all.....I just haven't seen benchmarks that are putting the new drivers on the 7970 ahead....From what I have seen, the 680 used to always be better, now the 7970 is better for AMD specialized games and the 680 for nvidia specialized games. ALSO I have never seen that AMD cards are better at OC'ing than Nvidia cards. Sure the 7970 is better because of unlocked voltage, but there are versions of the 680 with that too.

I will say that AMD is almost always better price to performance, BUT I will also say that nvidia makes better cards more of the time.

 

[lt_dan_zsu]

I have always heard of better overclocking from the 7000 series. Most people are getting 20-30% overclocking with 7000 high end. The 600 usually can get around 10%, that's just what I have read from people, and first hand experience. I think there is an anendtech review that puts it ahead with their new drivers. there is also the gpu hierarchy
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html
And no, this is not getting personal. That is what I like about computer people. They don't turn it into a freaking blood feud like console people. I do feel like we kind of hijacked this post though. :/

 

[Guest]

I have always heard of better overclocking from the 7000 series. Most people are getting 20-30% overclocking with 7000 high end. The 600 usually can get around 10%, that's just what I have read from people, and first hand experience. I think there is an anendtech review that puts it ahead with their new drivers. there is also the gpu hierarchy
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html
And no, this is not getting personal. That is what I like about computer people. They don't turn it into a freaking blood feud like console people. I do feel like we kind of hijacked this post though. :/

yea.....woops, sometimes people get carried away.....anyways to bring it kinda back on track,

javi ur build looks good now, let us know when/if you purchased it!

and lt_dan_zsu I see what your saying about the clocking thing, that usually comes down to unlocked vs locked voltage when two cards are the same or very similar, and thats why I think the 7970 is better OC'd.....because its really hard to find an unlocked 680. When unlocked however, Id assume similar OC'ing results. The 7970 GHz edition ill assume is a pre suped up 7970. To fairly compete with that I would be bench marking a pre OC'd unlocked voltage 680, which isn't usually tested in bench marks. However, at that price point which is around 450 give or take, I will say that the price to performance is going to be 7970 route. For a 50-75 dollar difference its a better buy. That said, I think with a correctly matched 680, with unlocked voltage ect, you can surpass the performance. Now is it worth the 75 more? probably not. But almost every year, AMD is the superior card price wise.

 

[burntpizza]

Agreed-good build.


Separate note-from the results, I agree, the 7870 got better, but the 7970 as well as 7950 seem inconclusive/not better.....Ill give you that the 7870 is better now than the 650 ti, but I still stand that the 670 is better than the 7950, the 680 is better than the 7970, and the 690 situation is different so I won't go into that.

Got another one for you.

http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/

Look through it, HD 7970 GHZ is in a tier by itself, it has distanced itself from 680. Also, it is cheaper.

HD 7970 can be better than 680 while costing much less.

HD 7950 is competiting in part with 670 on some games and even 680, but 99% of the time it is faster than 660 ti.

HD 7870 is only like 2-5% slower than 660ti while costing 50 ish dollars less, it beats 660 by a fair margin and is priced the same.

HD 7850 is slower than 660 but is much, much better than 650ti and only costs like 20 dollar more than 650 ti.

Add in FC3 and Hitman absolution, it is mostly an AMD game

7750 took care of GTX 650 and 640.

 

[Guest]

Got another one for you.

http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/

Look through it, HD 7970 GHZ is in a tier by itself, it has distanced itself from 680. Also, it is cheaper.

HD 7970 can be better than 680 while costing much less.

HD 7950 is competiting in part with 670 on some games and even 680, but 99% of the time it is faster than 660 ti.

HD 7870 is only like 2-5% slower than 660ti while costing 50 ish dollars less, it beats 660 by a fair margin and is priced the same.

HD 7850 is slower than 660 but is much, much better than 650ti and only costs like 20 dollar more than 650 ti.

Add in FC3 and Hitman absolution, it is mostly an AMD game

7750 took care of GTX 650 and 640.

only reason the ghz is distanced is because its an improved/oc'd 7970. If I buy a free voltage OC'd 680 it will beat a 7970(personal experience, I have 5 desktops in use at the moment). The problem with all those benchmarks is they are comparing a stock card with what essentially is a OC'd card. PLUS the stock 680 has locked voltage which can be fixed, some special 680s do not have this, but those cards rarely show in benchmarks.


EDIT for clarity: what I am basicly saying is you cannot compare a GHz with a stock 680. An still, when equal ability cards are shown, NVIDIA wins.

AMD-Price to performace
NVIDIA-Performance for more price.

This is coming from a guy who refused NVIDIA till late last gen and this gen.

 

[burntpizza]

only reason the ghz is distanced is because its an improved/oc'd 7970. If I buy a free voltage OC'd 680 it will beat a 7970(personal experience, I have 5 desktops in use at the moment). The problem with all those benchmarks is they are comparing a stock card with what essentially is a OC'd card. PLUS the stock 680 has locked voltage which can be fixed, some special 680s do not have this, but those cards rarely show in benchmarks.


EDIT for clarity: what I am basicly saying is you cannot compare a GHz with a stock 680. An still, when equal ability cards are shown, NVIDIA wins.

AMD-Price to performace
NVIDIA-Performance for more price.

This is coming from a guy who refused NVIDIA till late last gen and this gen.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/07/23/msi_geforce_gtx_680_lightning_video_card_review/9

No, it would not be. HD 7970 has 7% higher ipc than GTX 680. This is way back before 12.11 huge performance boost to Radeon HD 79XX series. HD 7970 still won. Add 10% to radeon for real post 12.11 performance.

IPC article from a while back: http://www.overclock.net/t/1232948/7970-vs-gtx-680-who-is-the-real-king-update-7970-8-better-clock-per-clock

HD 7970 GHZ is NOT an overclocked card. It is a stock card, and not a factory overclock. Therefore, the comparison is valid Beside, GTX 680 is priced around the ghz edition, so why not compare it?


I am not trying to argue with you or anything, but I ve been hearing too much of Nvidia GTX 6XX being better cause, they are more overclockable and has higher performance than comparable radeon cards, pure bs.

PS. AMD released ghz edition with almost identical clock speed as gtx 680.

 

[Guest]

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/07/23/msi_geforce_gtx_680_lightning_video_card_review/9

No, it would not be. HD 7970 has 7% higher ipc than GTX 680. This is way back before 12.11 huge performance boost to Radeon HD 79XX series. HD 7970 still won. Add 10% to radeon for real post 12.11 performance.

IPC article from a while back: http://www.overclock.net/t/1232948/7970-vs-gtx-680-who-is-the-real-king-update-7970-8-better-clock-per-clock

HD 7970 GHZ is NOT an overclocked card. It is a stock card, and not a factory overclock. Therefore, the comparison is valid Beside, GTX 680 is priced around the ghz edition, so why not compare it?


I am not trying to argue with you or anything, but I ve been hearing too much of Nvidia GTX 6XX being better cause, they are more overclockable and has higher performance than comparable radeon cards, pure bs.

PS. AMD released ghz edition with almost identical clock speed as gtx 680.

Same price does not mean same level. NVIDIA is known to be more expensive. Also the 680 isnt a fair test because its a stock limited card. And yes if you did what I said to do to the 680 that would happen...
The 6xx series is a higher preforming card if given the same benefits as their counterparts which can be done either manually or from buying a modified card. Why NVIDIA decided to limit their reference cards so much? Who knows......
btw you are wrong the 7970 didn't win before the update. It was behind bit. The update changed that and now the GHz model can beat the stock 680. A correctly modified 680 so it can do the same power wise? At that point it comes down to the game being nvidia based or amd based.



EDIT:that hardocp article is using an OCed 7970 btw. Its known that vs a stock 680 the 7970 will win because its more OC'able....take out the voltage limitation that difference goes away and the 680 wins.