News Maxsun RTX 5060 Ti EEC filings show 8GB, 16GB models — 2016 wants its VRAM capacity back

[beyondlogic]

Again none of that refutes my point.

Are you expecting nVidia to have invented a time machine or are you just fake angry that they are using the same product layout since 40 series?

I mean you could organize a team of crack ninja squirrels to rappel into nVidia HQ and force Jensen to cancel the 50 series launch.

no im refuting what you said was false about 3060 series starting at 128 bit bus it never started at 128 bit period.

and why would they need a time machine they could easily make the card 192 bit bus they choose to follow the 4000 series design despite it being criticised in past and fact its a new card.

fake anger no just disappointed that this card would probly have been great if it wasn't being butchered.

the last part was actually quite funny and made me laugh and id pay more to see that happen then put another cent into 5000 series which i wont go near with a 20 foot pole.

fact that there literally band aiding the cards connector on the high end card with thermal pads to me is also just hilarious and just points to these cards are just plain bad whyy is that acceptable to people if the cards going to cost 2000 or whatever price they throw at it its just nuts.

 

[beyondlogic]

Only way to stop this madness is stoping buying GPU from nvidia... but they don't care because they make billions with enterprise market... they don't care about gaming market.
AMD droop the ball with RDNA4 because they move to enterprise too...
The only company right now can save us is the intel... The mostly Greed and evil one...


We are so F!

yes we are royally and absolutely sodded.

and yes i think this 4070 super sitting in my rig will be the last i buy from them till they get a clue.

and i am hoping intel can get the other cards out and start making a bigger come back im buying a intel b570 to see what the image quality is like on these cards.

but id be intrested to see how rdna 4 stacks up.

 

[thestryker]

Yes that's why I find it utterly insane people expected nVidia to have invented a time machine to have those chips in products before they are even finished being developed / released..

They announced the 24GB 5090 mobile which uses 3GB memory IC so there's always that.

 

[thestryker]

8GB was somewhat understandable for the 3060 Ti, questionable for the 3070 and never should have been a thing for the 4060 Ti. It would be rather unfortunate if an 8GB 5060 Ti happened, but nvidia is in a market position where the customer value/benefit doesn't matter.

 

[beyondlogic]

8GB was somewhat understandable for the 3060 Ti, questionable for the 3070 and never should have been a thing for the 4060 Ti. It would be rather unfortunate if an 8GB 5060 Ti happened, but nvidia is in a market position where the customer value/benefit doesn't matter.

yep which is why i do hope they get a good wrecking out of nowhere to bring them off cloud nine

 

[CelicaGT]

I started typing a reply about 1080p gaming and 8GB might still be enough but it rings hollow. Even my 4070Ti with 12GB at 1440p is VRAM choked in some games at certain settings. In other news NVDA is down 17% due to the release of an open source chinese AI something or other (DeepSeek, for those who actually care). So...I guess there's that.

 

[oofdragon]

Why the heck are you complaining instead of buying AMD gpus??? Fake frames are gimmick, ray gimmick is gimmick, dlss is gimmick, break out from the smoke and mirrors fgs. Buy a card that raster the fps you want and that's it, that's the way it has always been. PRO TIP: the 6800XT is a 16GB card > than the 4070 and surprise it is cheaper now than what the 5060 aka 4060 ti II is going to cost. Who cares about this lame "new gen"??? If you want to wait at least do it for the 9070 or even the 9060

 

[CelicaGT]

Why the heck are you complaining instead of buying AMD gpus??? Fake frames are gimmick, ray gimmick is gimmick, dlss is gimmick, break out from the smoke and mirrors fgs. Buy a card that raster the fps you want and that's it, that's the way it has always been. PRO TIP: the 6800XT is a 16GB card > than the 4070 and surprise it is cheaper now than what the 5060 aka 4060 ti II is going to cost. Who cares about this lame "new gen"??? If you want to wait at least do it for the 9070 or even the 9060

Like last Gen, I am closely looking at AMD. Unfortunately due due several factors, I went with NVIDIA and a 4070Ti. I'm sitting a little prettier with sunk costs on my rig this Gen and AMD is a consideration, as long as they have something at least 50% or more faster than the 4070 with at LEAST 16GB VRAM for a reasonable price. I've wanted an all AMD rig again for ages. Last time was a ATi (later, AMD) 7870 Ghz edition ..

 

[oofdragon]

Like last Gen, I am closely looking at AMD. Unfortunately due due several factors, I went with NVIDIA and a 4070Ti. I'm sitting a little prettier with sunk costs on my rig this Gen and AMD is a consideration, as long as they have something at least 50% or more faster than the 4070 with at LEAST 16GB VRAM for a reasonable price. I've wanted an all AMD rig again for ages. Last time was a ATi (later, AMD) 7870 Ghz edition ..

Yeah and I went with the 7900 XT which is a tier above the 4070 Ti, 20GB VRAM cheaper as I paid $600 for it. What did I miss choosing AMD? Nothing!!!!! In fact I didn't miss some hundred dollars paying more for less. The only reason there are $800 MSRP gpus with 12gb is exactly because people somehow find the most absurd reasoning to buy it

 

[oofdragon]

Like last Gen, I am closely looking at AMD. Unfortunately due due several factors, I went with NVIDIA and a 4070Ti. I'm sitting a little prettier with sunk costs on my rig this Gen and AMD is a consideration, as long as they have something at least 50% or more faster than the 4070 with at LEAST 16GB VRAM for a reasonable price. I've wanted an all AMD rig again for ages. Last time was a ATi (later, AMD) 7870 Ghz edition ..

The 9070 XT will perform really close to the 4080 which is 50% faster than the 4070 and it does have 16GB We don't know the price yet, it will beat the 5070 Ti so it could cost just as much as $750.. everyone is hoping it's closer to $500 though, it would literally be a 4080 tier at less than half the launch price, now that's a true next gen GPU. Let's wait and see. IMO if AMD just price it $50 cheaper like it did last gen it's bound to fail again, so there are good chances it will be way cheaper this time. That would bring 7800 XT and 6800 XT prices way bellow what they are selling now and that would be great for everyone.

 

[palladin9479]

They announced the 24GB 5090 mobile which uses 3GB memory IC so there's always that.

That's a product announcement, just like they "announced" the 50 series last year. The thing is Samsung is the ones making the 24Gb chips and they are anticipating making them available to hardware makers sometime Q1 FY25. We're a few weeks into Q1 so far, so sometime in the next few months, assuming no delays. This is why we're assuming the mid cycle refresh will by using the new modules. nVidia doesn't want to say that now because it might have people "waiting" for them.

It's also why I'm perplexed that people expected nVidia to have invented a time machine and use future parts in their current products.

 

[spongiemaster]

The 9070 XT will perform really close to the 4080 which is 50% faster than the 4070 and it does have 16GB We don't know the price yet, it will beat the 5070 Ti so it could cost just as much as $750.. everyone is hoping it's closer to $500 though, it would literally be a 4080 tier at less than half the launch price, now that's a true next gen GPU. Let's wait and see. IMO if AMD just price it $50 cheaper like it did last gen it's bound to fail again, so there are good chances it will be way cheaper this time. That would bring 7800 XT and 6800 XT prices way bellow what they are selling now and that would be great for everyone.

According to a Bulgarian retailer, AMD's original launch plan was for the 9070XT to MSRP at $899 and the non XT at $749. Then Nvidia's CES announcement came and everything got cancelled and AMD has been trying to figure out what to do since. The delay has nothing to do with software. This was stated in an official video by a company representative on Youtube while he stood in front of a Red Devil 9070Xt retail box they can't sell. If you think AMD is going to be your price savior. You need to move on to a different hobby than PC gaming.

 

[palladin9479]

I started typing a reply about 1080p gaming and 8GB might still be enough but it rings hollow. Even my 4070Ti with 12GB at 1440p is VRAM choked in some games at certain settings. In other news NVDA is down 17% due to the release of an open source chinese AI something or other (DeepSeek, for those who actually care). So...I guess there's that.

It depends on the game and settings, resolution only ends up with a ~10% difference. The setting that is most important is texture size, they consume the most display memory and "ultra" settings tend to shove it to the max. Then load in a game where you have a wide angle view with tons of different objects and that can end up with at on of stuff on screen at once. Change to a game that's all corners and hallways or uses a smaller texture set and memory consumption plummets. Can also turn down texture size one or two levels from max and memory consumption drop by half in most games. Also RT and DLSS FG consume quite a bit more memory as well.

I have a 3050 LP with 6GB of VRAM on my HTPC doing casual gaming at 4k (really 1080p upscaled) and it's a solid 50~60fps. Main rig is significantly beefier but most people people overstate memory requirements due to not understanding WDDM.

 

[thestryker]

That's a product announcement, just like they "announced" the 50 series last year. The thing is Samsung is the ones making the 24Gb chips and they are anticipating making them available to hardware makers sometime Q1 FY25. We're a few weeks into Q1 so far, so sometime in the next few months, assuming no delays.

With a March launch period which means the 3GB memory IC is already in hand because there's no way the laptop manufacturers would be able to hit that otherwise.

 

[George³]

Unless these are significantly cheaper than the 4060TI cards, this is devastating if true. IMO 8GB should only be for 5050 class or lower.

My friend we are in 2025. 8GB VRAM must be in 5030 class distant successor of gt 1030. Or successor of gtx 1630

 

[Thunder64]

According to a Bulgarian retailer, AMD's original launch plan was for the 9070XT to MSRP at $899 and the non XT at $749. Then Nvidia's CES announcement came and everything got cancelled and AMD has been trying to figure out what to do since. The delay has nothing to do with software. This was stated in an official video by a company representative on Youtube while he stood in front of a Red Devil 9070Xt retail box they can't sell. If you think AMD is going to be your price savior. You need to move on to a different hobby than PC gaming.

Nah. How could they plan to sell it at $900 if it doesn't even beat the 7900XTX?

 

[spongiemaster]

Nah. How could they plan to sell it at $900 if it doesn't even beat the 7900XTX?

It would be a rather bizarre move for a major retailer to make a video lying about that. Remember, the early rumors had the 5080 as high as $1500 with nobody thinking it would launch at less than the 4080's $1200. At those prices, a $900 7090XT would not have seemed that out of line.

 

[beyondlogic]

According to a Bulgarian retailer, AMD's original launch plan was for the 9070XT to MSRP at $899 and the non XT at $749. Then Nvidia's CES announcement came and everything got cancelled and AMD has been trying to figure out what to do since. The delay has nothing to do with software. This was stated in an official video by a company representative on Youtube while he stood in front of a Red Devil 9070Xt retail box they can't sell. If you think AMD is going to be your price savior. You need to move on to a different hobby than PC gaming.

has to be bogus or someone in amd needs to get off the drugs in there marketing.

it would be incredibly stupid to market these cards so high up the ladder. there mid range gpus.

 

[beyondlogic]

It would be a rather bizarre move for a major retailer to make a video lying about that. Remember, the early rumors had the 5080 as high as $1500 with nobody thinking it would launch at less than the 4080's $1200. At those prices, a $900 7090XT would not have seemed that out of line.

major retailers are gonna price it at whatever they want a cut of the pie as well.

 

[George³]

has to be bogus or someone in amd needs to get off the drugs in there marketing.

I guess he's just greedy and intends to sell at scalped prices. And he's angry that it didn't work out for him.

 

[thestryker]

has to be bogus or someone in amd needs to get off the drugs in there marketing.

it would be incredibly stupid to market these cards so high up the ladder. there mid range gpus.

Since it's a Bulgarian retailer that may have included VAT which would make the cards ~$625/750 which is a more believable price point depending on performance. The last 3 generations of AMD cards haven't been priced to gain market share so while I'd like for them to have learned their lesson who knows.

 

[spongiemaster]

I guess he's just greedy and intends to sell at scalped prices. And he's angry that it didn't work out for him.

That makes no sense on any level. Once AMD actually launches with official pricing, no one can just make up another price and claim that's the official AMD pricing so they can "scalp" product at that price.

 

[spongiemaster]

Since it's a Bulgarian retailer that may have included VAT which would make the cards ~$625/750 which is a more believable price point depending on performance. The last 3 generations of AMD cards haven't been priced to gain market share so while I'd like for them to have learned their lesson who knows.

Could also be a bad translation, though I'm sure the prices he said are being reported accurately, they may not actually represent what is being reported.

 

[beyondlogic]

Since it's a Bulgarian retailer that may have included VAT which would make the cards ~$625/750 which is a more believable price point depending on performance. The last 3 generations of AMD cards haven't been priced to gain market share so while I'd like for them to have learned their lesson who knows.

normally if its 599 that usually includes vat at least in uk
though i find retailers in uk usually do about 50-60 pounds higher then the official retail price. depends on which retailer. then sent in the most god aweful cheapest protective packaging lol or non at all if its amazon lol.

 

[Amdlova]

Changed my 4060 for one Rx570... going back to play some old dungeon siege...
Maybe get some intel graphics when they have something more powerfull than a rtx 4070.