ME3 & Origin

[cadefoster]

I have avoided using origin up 'till now because 1) I have no interest in using more then one game client and 2) that many people believe origin is just spyware for EA kinda freaks me out. I really don't want to miss out on ME3 though so to those of you who use it, just how invasive/unpleasant is origin to use?

 

[rpg_poser]

casualcolors,
do you work for EA?

 

[casualcolors]

casualcolors,
do you work for EA?

No, and I don't wholeheartedly stand by their company either. But calling Origin or secuROM spyware when those arguments were hashed out already (in securom's case years ago) isn't really a valid point of complaint. They aren't hacking your gibson. In the end I find their business model to be marginally less offensive than Activision's, and I hope Origin succeeds so that someone other than Valve exists in the digital distribution market. Competition benefits my wallet a lot more than brand loyalty (or disloyalty) that can only be reasoned in platitudes.

And the title of this thread should be "Mass Effect 3 and Day One DLC" because that is a trend that has to stop. It's made doubly obnoxious to know that Bioware apparently finds this kind of thing justified, from reading their article on Forbes.

 

[rpg_poser]

You justify your arguments well. I would just rather nobody have access to my PC for ANY reason. Quite frankly, I think more PC users should be of the same mind. You may not work for EA, but you probably work in a related field.

 

[casualcolors]

You justify your arguments well. I would just rather nobody have access to my PC for ANY reason. Quite frankly, I think more PC users should be of the same mind. You may not work for EA, but you probably work in a related field.

I do have a technical career, but I don't have any association with the gaming or multimedia industries in any way, aside the fact that I'm a consumer. I do agree with you that in a perfect world, nobody would have the means (nor even the reason) to put a program launch hub (like steam or origin and so on) on my computer that could potentially restrict my future access to the software. Unfortunately those days are gone. When the gaming industry started really making high budget AAA titles on the PC platform and they were pirated to hell and back, a lot of people didn't think that it would end well. Ultimately, here we are and every company is going to extensive and largely ineffective means to protect their investment in each game.

Best result that can come out of it, at least for me since I actually purchase the things that I use including software and games, is that eventually a meaningful DRM is developed with no potential inconvenience to the end-user who buys the retail product. Until then, I'm willing to put up with experimentation. If a DRM is ever developed that goes the way of actual rootkitting I'll be in line to boycott it with everyone else.

 

[rpg_poser]

I won't purchase any games which I believe use privacy violating DRM. This includes Steam and Origin. I am not willing to put up with any experimentation on my PC unless it's done by me.
No doubt I am in the minority, as the majority of consumers don't care.

I have a technical career as well, non-game related, in the IT security field.

 

[casualcolors]

I won't purchase any games which I believe use privacy violating DRM. This includes Steam and Origin. I am not willing to put up with any experimentation on my PC unless it's done by me.
No doubt I am in the minority, as the majority of consumers don't care.

I have a technical career as well, non-game related, in the IT security field.

Really you're exhibiting more or less what I think is completely within reason. Steam and Origin both work much in the same way and if want to denounce one while you use the other, it's just foolish. If you choose not to use either, you're making an informed decision and I don't think anyone can or should argue with your right to do so.

 

[AntiZig]

Funny how securom gets called spyware considering it came about long before steam and origin. Nobody had a problem with it until origin? Sounds to me like people are hearing others scream but don't understand what the screaming is about...

 

[casualcolors]

I don't remember anyone screaming about secuROM until around the time of sony's little music disc fiasco, and then every rumor about it was debunked. Seems to have resurfaced to again be mislabeled.

Well, more likely the old articles were dug up in a google search about ubisoft or Origin. The same kind of inflammatory language is used across the board in all topics if I recall correctly.

 

[jaguarskx]

Personally, I never had an issue with SecuROM. Many, many games use it.

I did have issues with StarForce though. I wanted to buy X3: Reunion, but the US release used StarForce. I decided not to buy the game until the publisher (EgoSoft) released a utility to remove StarForce. That was probably about 18 - 24 months after the release of the game.

 

[jtl2901]

Lol not sure what all the frustration is about. I have ME3 through Origin and it's been really easy to use and hassle free so far, not a big deal.

 

[HEXiT]

cant say im a fan of it as it does monitor the last program accessed and sends that info to e.a but to be honest i have no idea how there processing the sheer amount of info being thrown at em... also i see very little activity coming from my client so i dunno when its sending or what its sending. but what ever it is , it is questionable how they say, accept or invasion of your privacy or forget about using our product...
at least with steam you can opt out... origin should offer the same choice and by law they may have to at least in eu countries.