Microsoft Backs Down on Controversial Xbox One Online Requirements, Used Game Disc Trading

[LordConrad]

I already pre-ordered my PS4. Microsloth may be getting better at reversing their bad decisions, but I would be more comfortable if they could stop those bad decisions from happening in the first place. After seeing the mess that is Windows 8, who knows what horrors their new console will be hiding.

 

[atawhai007]

The funny thing about Sony's successful e3 was that all they had to do is tell their core audience what they were'nt going to do (drm checks etc...) that was the most memorable portion of their press conference, the audience reaction was incredible. If nothing else it highlighted for MS the importance of customer satisfaction.

 

[fleeb]

Still the damage has been done with Sony being more affordable m$ already screwed themselves over at E3

That did not stop PS3 from selling even if it is more expensive at launch.

 

[fleeb]

dont know why everyone keeps pointing out the specs difference? xbox 360 had crap specs vs the ps3 and both did very well. the only thing they are failing on is the price difference

There was nothing else to complain about. When I ask around what negative effect a lacking of 2GB of RAM would have, nobody can answer straight. In the first place, so many games will be released on both consoles at launch and looks like they both work.

 

[nevilence]

PS4 doesn't include the cost of the Eye, but XB1 has the Kinect 2 bundled, so cost isnt that much different, plus the Eye blows compared to the Kinect 2

Dropping all the DRM and used sales restrictions I think is a mistake however, maybe dial it down a notch but drop it altogether? Wrong. If a games developer sees an opportunity to sell a copy to everyone with the Xb1, whereas the PS4 sells one copy which gets traded between a dozen people with no cut going back to the developer - you could be guaranteed that there would be a huge number of XB1 exclusive AAA titles and hardly any for PS4, plus the price could drop for $60 a game to $40 or less and the devs would still rake twice as much dough

The complain campaign hasn't got what it wants because it is a means to an end, that end is cheaper games and now you are stuck in the same old tired Gamestop leeching from the games industry system, the same end could have been achieved but never mind, it will have to wait for the next-gen after this one

Leeching from the games industry? No cheaper games? What the hell is wrong with you? You a MS executive or something? The industry has existed and survived with second hand games for a long time and will do so this generation of console and probably the next. AAA games will continue to be produced with or without a second hand industry. And your claim that games wont be cheaper with a second hand industry is just plain silly, if I can pick up a second hand game for $10 then thats cheap, your logic is fuzzy if ya cant see that? Save your bad rants for somewhere else.

 

[bigshootr8]

dont know why everyone keeps pointing out the specs difference? xbox 360 had crap specs vs the ps3 and both did very well. the only thing they are failing on is the price difference

Still the damage has been done with Sony being more affordable m$ already screwed themselves over at E3

That did not stop PS3 from selling even if it is more expensive at launch.

But see not everything is dictated at launch. The consoles selling power showcases by the 2nd holiday season because by then you have a good idea of how many units are sold and games sold as well.

 

[acadia11]

Ok, do they not get it , 1 time setup. If you don't have an internet connection, you don't have an internet connection. Whether it's 1 time, or 1000 times.

 

[bigshootr8]

dont know why everyone keeps pointing out the specs difference? xbox 360 had crap specs vs the ps3 and both did very well. the only thing they are failing on is the price difference

But see there lies the problem as well the PS3 sold for more money and didn't sell at the same level as the xbox. Also, xbox was more simple and the draw to blu rays was still not quite as it is now. Sony did a good job here by providing a great product in theory and a cheaper price tag. Selling more consoles and having it reflect within the first 2 holiday seasons will really show where consoles are at. Wii was selling really well but dropped like a rock after a while.

 

[cjlindman]

these are pretty significant, meaningful changes. i'm not sure it will convince me to change my mind (ultimately the deciding factor will be how badly i miss halo), but i'm glad they didn't give us some meaningless bullshit changes and try to pretend they're doing us a favor.

 

[bigshootr8]

Ok, do they not get it , 1 time setup. If you don't have an internet connection, you don't have an internet connection. Whether it's 1 time, or 1000 times.

^This to. However, I have a feeling there console probably is to far along to not require the initial setup. What I would do if I was gamestop or target would be to offer initial setup at there locations so you didn't need internet for a fee.

 

[Chairman Ray]

They would have made a lot more money if they did this from the start. How did their marketing team not predict the major backlash?

 

[thesuperguy]

Now all they have to do is make the kinect optional, make the console more powerful than the PS4 or cut the price to have an even better shot at not utterly failing.

 

[none12345]

Well at least they got their heads out of their butts....

But its too little too late. I still wont touch the xbox on, id be too scared of them changing their minds again and turning their DRM back on after people buy the thing.

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Now....microsoft....about the start button, and disabling metro permanently.....id consider touching windows 8 if you would get your heads out of your arses on this one...

 

[sean1357]

Good moves Microsoft. But I'm still get PS4. $100 cheaper... I can buy other games for that.

 

[brandonjclark]

If any tool decides this is enough to give Micro$oft their money over the PS4 then they are damn fools.

 

[jigawatt]

Due up for the chopping block: Kinect!

 

[Icecweam7]

So Micro$$$$oft will make the positive changes that will supposedly change gamers minds to buy the Xbox1? Then on day one people who buy the Xbox1 find other hidden charges that will just keep everyone pissed off at the company for thinking about the $$$$ before the consumers. You lost the trust in many people M$. Continue to enjoy your negative publicity money greedy M$.

 

[The Grave Digger]

Well, EA must be VERY UNHAPPY about this decision..i Can Feel it.

 

[rodbowler]

It's good that Microsoft realised that Sony was going to eat their lunch if they stuck to the crazy always-connected policy.
On the other hand,it's a crying shame that Microsoft ignored the pre-Windows 8 concerns. The difference here is, despite various iMacs and greatly improved Linux desktop distros, Microsoft still has a near Monopoly on PC's and Laptops. Adding the Start button back is meaningless if the Start menu does not come with it.

 

[Devoteicon]

MS is pulling the "New Coke/Coke-Classic" strategy.

I underestimated their marketing department. I still hope it fails though...

 

[damian86]

well, that escalated quickly.

 

[amoralman]

So little, so late.

I wish Xbone eats dust.

 

[redeemer]

I already pre-ordered my PS4. Microsloth may be getting better at reversing their bad decisions, but I would be more comfortable if they could stop those bad decisions from happening in the first place. After seeing the mess that is Windows 8, who knows what horrors their new console will be hiding.

I kinda liked the way I could share my games under the Xbox One share plan, MS was trying to be different and change the way we share and trade digital content. I think the latest decision is a step backwards, eventually discs will be phased out

 

[redeemer]

So little, so late.

I wish Xbone eats dust.

Lol man console are not even out yet

 

[redeemer]

Still the damage has been done with Sony being more affordable m$ already screwed themselves over at E3

The thing is PS3 has like 3-4 games that are awesome Xbox1 has like 10! $100 is not a big deal considering the Xbox is offering more than just gaming. Of course each has a dedicated fanbase, more services and features will be announced in the future.