Microsoft Extends Windows XP Downgrade to 2020

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beayn

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[citation][nom]wotan31[/nom]Who are you, Steve Ballmer? Stop regurgitating MS marketing materials. Every release of Windows is touted as "The best Windows evar!!" in the first year its released. Then everyone wakes up and realizes how it actually is. Windows 95 was the best Windows evar! Windows ME was the best Windows evar! Vista was the best Windows evar! Get a grip.[/citation]

That is the marketing strategy of EVERY OS out there. In fact, EVERYTHING touts itself as "the best yet" when compared to their own previous version. Nothing wrong with that since it is usually true.


 

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[citation][nom]Wittermark[/nom]those companies did the same-thing when moving from win3.1 to win95, win95 to win98, and again from win98 to XP, I don't see how its a big deal to move on from a decade-old system to win7. its much faster and smarter. I hate working with XP systems, my work computer with Win7 installed is so much faster than my co-worker's, and I never get virus and Trojan, while they need to do a reinstall/ghost every few weeks just to keep their XP clean.[/citation]
ever heard of antivirus?
 

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[citation][nom]egmccann[/nom]Some of the comments absolutely amaze me - and make it blatantly obvious they don't have to support businesses, especially medium to large (though cost is still a factor for small business.) I've run across machines still running OS/2. Because they still work and do a specific function, or run specialized software. "Just put Linux on!" Sure, you can get the OS free - now about the cost of rewriting the software. Not to mention testing, making sure the machine works well with it - and don't forget downtime and labor to put it on. For home use? Absolutely, grab Win7. Businesses? Do what works. You'll see XP for quite some time there, even if the rest of the organization moves to Windows 7-8-9-10. It makes a job a little more difficult for IT, yes (production/PR/etc needs to use the latest and greatest, another department needs XP, this group uses Macs or what have you) but that's what they pay you for.[/citation]

OS/2 is still being upgraded all the time, it's just called Ecomstation now.

OS/2 is still the best OS for running DOS apps, even better than DOS itself.
 

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If that's all then get a nice printer server that runs linux. This would almost certainly have drivers for that printer. Have it run CUPS. Windows 7 natively supports printing through CUPS using the http print command. Then it doesn't matter at all that win7 can't run the printer directly since it isn't.

Though from what you had in your post I can't tell how many printers nor the configuration. (my assumption is that there are a few print servers already that are running XP, and to use them through standard windows networking the clients need drivers too but that isn't the case through CUPS)
 

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AT MICROSOFT, NO OS IS ISSUED BEFORE ITS TIME

At my company, we rejoice at Windows problems-- that's because we render tech support to a variety of customers, and it has been a goldmine, of sorts, for all us Windows "camp followers".

That said, however, I heartily endorse the notion of "appropriate technology"-- that is, XP seems to fill the bill for almost all Windows customers (leaving aside the issue of whether they should be on Windows, in the first place).

Microsoft designed XP to deal with widespread and growing dissatisfaction with both the W9x kernel and what seemed an overly complex address of security and other issues in W2000. If the mass of Windows users were to be corraled, however, the strength of NT had to be made friendlier.

So, rather than "dumb down" W2000, Microsoft reinvented it, down to the almost cartoon-casual graphic style of its icons, folders and the Little Search Dog that survived even the rage about Clippy. And, as is occasionally the case, Microsoft hit a home run with users.

Most were glad to be free of W9x, and found, to their astonishment, even the BSOD had disappeared-- replaced by a polite reminder Windows has fallen apart in this session, but not to worry. (Prepare for a forced reboot.)

After some nine years of trial and error, Windows XP emerged a field-proven Windows that actually permitted people to get some work done-- marvelous as it might seem. Coupled with SP2 and SP3 makeovers, XP now need apologize for no shortcoming, in the near future.

The rest of the story is intellectual property and hardware-driven, and very murky at this point. For example, a Microsoft obsession with turning Windows into a vending machine for Hollywood delayed Vista for an entire year, for negligible gain on any front. By the time it was unceremoniously pushed onto the market, it met a very critical, impatient user base which expected much more than it found.

But while Windows 7 has made many users at least as happy as XP, has bitten nobody very badly, and seems worth keeping-- especially if "pre-installed" (aka forced upgrade)-- it is not necessarily worth struggling to acquire. Particularly with its greater hardware requirements.

So, uncharacteristically, Microsoft has done the right thing for users of Windows XP, who want to continue using XP even if Microsoft needs them (for the sake of its cash flow) to "move along", as one user put it.

But there is also hidden self-interest in the Microsoft move-- so long as even XP users remain in the Microsoft fold, Microsoft's Ballmer can continue to pump up the Windows tent for developers, year after year, as "the greatest show on earth"-- and developers will still come running for the cash, if nothing else.

So, for the sake of an established market foothold, Microsoft will not kill off Windows XP prematurely. This is the same thinking that led Microsoft to continue with security updates for years with the surprising cohort still using W98SE. Presumably, Microsoft will build upon its XP user base, not attempt to force anything.

If Microsoft has learned anything over the years as America's Official Predatory Monopoly, it is The Microsoft Customer Is Nearly Always Right.
 
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Bunch of clueless fanboys with no idea of how a buisness works.
The simple reason is Money. Buisnesses do not like spending money and want maximum duration and useage from there investments. Something a wishing/whining wanabe fanboy has no idea or concept on.
Microsoft performed a smart and correct buisness move. With no support for XP, Company's will definately consider other Operating systems before they consider upgrading. Simple buisness strategy. And Microsoft Deinately does not want to lose any coustomers.

PFFFT typical noob wanabee MS fanboys.. totaly clueless.
(xp is still faster than windows 7, xp still has more software , xp still has the biggest usesr base, xp will be around for a long long time.) all those simple points makes XP Microsofts biggest buisness partner.. so of course they will look after thm.. simple buisness again.. (I just hat MS noobs) /grumble /grumble
 

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I reckon everyone should consolidate their data/specialised programs on AS/400 servers and leave client computers to do document editing, emails, websurfing etc. That way business should be able to update to new stable technologies with minimal complications. At least AS/400 is guaranteed to be backwards compatible. Updated to V6R1M0 and it still runs software that was made in 1982(JDE). Thats a good 7 years older than me o_O.
 

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That is a good decision from MS, but also I think they did not have other choice. I worked on BP years ago on IT and where there on the transition to XP and I wont do this job again with 100s of software training and questions from everybody. I wish you the best IT people, this is not for me.

It may imply a slower adoption of new technologies as manny are saying but you can't force a multitude of legitimate businesses over the world to upgrade to W7 even with the advantages it offers. I am still on XP 64 and I have my 7 64 copy but it will wait until I find in the right time to do the upgrade. I am not worry about this. Obviously for me it will be an easy transition, so I hope, but I am not going to judge the entire world from my personal situation.
 

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Another aspect is that employees are not willing to get used to a new system and will complain. As long as they can do their work and check their mail and print something they will be completely satisfied with XP.
 

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For the love of God let this POS operating system DIE. It is stiffling innovation and keeping gaming tech back. JUST UPGRADE ALREADY YOU STUPID IDIOTS. XP IS CRAP.
 

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That's just freaking great. Just when I thought my company would move out of the dark ages, this happens.

Grr.....
 

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[citation][nom]wotan31[/nom]Windows is garbage. Always has been. Always will be. You know how many Microsoft desktops and servers, combined, we have at our 130 person company? Zero. You know why? Cause it's garbage software riddled with bugs and viruses. We are an exclusively Linux, AIX, and OSX shop and will be for the foreseeable future.[/citation]
Your 130 person company would certainly not be put to a bill running into millions for the change. Unlike others. Your software isn't capable of running the kinds of industrial contact management software required to keep the wheels of the financial/insurance/commerce industries running and even if it could the cost of retraining a billion employees would make it impossible.

For example just the worlds 5 biggest banks BNP Paribas, RBS, Credit Agricole, Barclays and Deutsche Bank have over 750,000 employees. That's just 5 companies, then you have to figure there are literally thousands of banks, building societies, insurance, credit card, investment, etc and that's just the financial world. Then you have all the organisations involved in customer management, retail sales, etc.

In the general scheme of things your 130 employee company is, and dont take this the wrong way, insignificant. Smaller companies have less trouble changing, but generally speaking smaller companies have no impact on the world's majority computer usage.
 

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it only means the company I am working with will have more sweet time using windows XP which is already boring knowing that windows 7 is just around the corner :(
 

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[citation][nom]wotan31[/nom]Windows is garbage. Always has been. Always will be. You know how many Microsoft desktops and servers, combined, we have at our 130 person company? Zero. You know why? Cause it's garbage software riddled with bugs and viruses. We are an exclusively Linux, AIX, and OSX shop and will be for the foreseeable future.[/citation]

I'd give this guy props if he hadn't mentioned OSX. Linux is good. Apple fanboys don't really know a whole lot usually though unfortunately.
 
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