MODERN WARFARE 2

[importuner]

Hello my fellow PC gamers!

Im writing because Im very confused about all the dilema about Modern Warfare 2. Some people say its the worst thing that IW has taken out after the amazing hit of COD4. I really want to buy the game, but then again I dont want to get it and then feel like a total Idiot after spending $60. Also some friends from school got the game last night and said that they played it till 6am in SP mode. Some said that the story is so intense that they didnt want to go to sleep. How interesting. I really want to try it out. But then with all the things they have taken away from the PC version its a huge draw back. God this is so anoying. Can some one that has bought the game for the PC post something, a review or something that we the PC gamers can rely on. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[JofaMang]

Agreed. Consoles limit the number of people to take strain off the company networks. Thats one reason I found MW2 multiplayer boring; the action is too spread out. At least a 16 man BF2 map has point which focuses the action...

Also note, quickplay tends to want to put people who live near eachother together in the same game. Once you start to play with people from California and Texas, you see the limitations of non-dedicated servers.

The one biggest issue that faces clans is server placement; I've seen on more then a few occasions really good players forced to sit out of matches because their internet isn't good enough to connect halfway around the country. With dedicated servers, you can control this. With MW2, its all up to the gods.

I just have to disagree with your first statement. Consoles do no limit the number of people to take strain off the company networks, the game developer does this. It is not a console only issue (as evidenced by MW2 PC) as consoles continually move forward on the size of the MP matches. In the past two years we have seen the advent of 30v30 (R2) up to 128v128 (MAG) on console FPS. I am sure there are PC games out there that can make similar claims, but to say that "consoles" are the limiting factor is pretty false.

 

[OvrClkr]

^^ Agreed. Nevermind that for all its faults, Punkbuster at least works. I've only seen a handful of hackers after 5 years of BF2, and never the same thing twice. CSS, I can't go more then 1 match without seeing someone hack.

Good clan servers have 24/7 admin support, so you can deal with people in the long run. A few of us also pass around banned lists, which leads to several hundred server where known hackers are banned for life. Of course, you don't get that now, unless VAC catches them in the act.

Punkbuster only works if the hack was installed in the game folder. If the hack is installed elsewhere then it is undetectable. Back in 2002 I sent an e-mail to PB just to see their response. I basically asked them if there was a way that PB could scan the whole drive in the interim of things just for fairness purposes. Of course this cannot be done due to legal laws and so forth...But it would be nice if it was possible for PB to scan everything.... Would make the gaming comunity much happier, and the hackers would have to learn something called skill.....

As far as banning someone from a server, that is a joke due to many hackers just go ahead and switch to another IP....

 

[purplerat]

Having a dedicated server will not stop the hacking regardless if the host is cam tracking the hacker or not. As long as the game is made to work on a PC there will always be a hack available and in most cases it will not be detected. Aimbots, wallhacks, glitching, etc are among the easiest to detect, but unfortunately there are many other hacks that are almost impossible to detect. This has always been the downside of PC gaming.

I knew when I made my last post that somebody was going to come back with some absolutists response that "dedicated servers will not stop hacking". Well duh and thanks for pointing out the obvious.

But a dedicated server, coupled with other anti-cheating measures, can offer an additional layer of safety that random match making doesn't. If you find a good dedicated server with a regular group of players it's less likely that you are going to run into cheating than if you are playing random games. And if somebody does cheat or use a hack it will be much more obvious to the people on that server and those in charge of moderating that server than a complaint to some third party who probably doesn't care very much.

It really all goes back to the community aspect that dedicated servers create. It's easier to cheat and get away with it against random people than it is to cheat and get away with it within a persistent community.

 

[importuner]

Hey I bought the game a week ago, and its amazing. Honestly I dont know why so many people are saying that it sucks. I have it for pc and it plays smooth. Yahh it has a few lags here and there cuz im playing through wireless but with ETHERNET this thing rocks. Plus you have to accept that the SP mode is beyond good, and the guns are out of this world. I'm so happy we finally got the BLING perk, two attachments it's funner. The game rocks.

 

[importuner]

also graphics wise it has been optimized and cleansed with some nice shaders and new textures. The guns, the maps, physics, sound, along with the rest have been redesigned.

 

[purplerat]

I don't think anybody is arguing (at least not rationally) that MW2 sucks in terms of gameplay or graphics or anything. In fact it's probably the realization that it is such a good game that makes such a glaring omission as no dedicated servers hurt so bad. I guess it could be worse - maybe MW3 will drop support for keyboard and mouse on the PC and it will be gamepad only.

 

[JofaMang]

I don't think anybody is arguing (at least not rationally) that MW2 sucks in terms of gameplay or graphics or anything. In fact it's probably the realization that it is such a good game that makes such a glaring omission as no dedicated servers hurt so bad. I guess it could be worse - maybe MW3 will drop support for keyboard and mouse on the PC and it will be gamepad only.

But you will be able to purchase KBM support for online play for only $10! Want higher than 1650x1080 resolution? A steal at only $5 per resolution!

 

[MGDJoker]

VAC = Crap, PB = Sweetness

 

[importuner]

haha true, MGDJoker, Vac stands for nothing, but punkbuster will bust anyones a$$ who is trying to cheat. I agree!!

 

[OvrClkr]

played last night till 4am and now I am regreting it.....

Hey import, what rank you at right now? Im at 32 and got a boatload of weapons and perks....The game is just too addictive....

 

[KnightyKnight]

A bit disappointed with the dedicated servers and TDM being 6vs6.

There's ground war but there's not as many players compared to TDM.

 

[OvrClkr]

the game plays fine for me... of course the dedi server issue is the handicap but it is still an overall great game...

 

[huntsman]

yeah i got the game for 360 got it from a friend for a good cheap price, and i like it alot, i actually dont like playing consoles but this game got me into it, for the past couple months my 360 has been off but now that i got the game its pretty much on everyday lol, i was thinking of buying this for the pc, but since i have it for the 360 i think ill hold off on that, gotta say i get lil lag almost never, and its pretty fun on the 360. id reccommend the game for consoles.

 

[OvrClkr]

Yea I have it both for the PS3 and the PC and can't get enough of it....I get a tad of lag on the PS3 if connected via wireless but nothing major, maybe a lag spike every 15-20 min. On the PC there is no lag whatsoever....

 

[importuner]

played last night till 4am and now I am regreting it.....

Hey import, what rank you at right now? Im at 32 and got a boatload of weapons and perks....The game is just too addictive....

Dude Im rank 26 because I haven't had that much chance to play but thanksgiving week is here and I'll be playing tomorrow all day long. Dude I agree with you this game rocks, ive been playing online and its not as bad as some say , it rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude my online ID is importuner171 , codename RIPPER!

 

[OvrClkr]

My steam id is "ipwn" add me whenever you get a chance....

 

[huntsman]

i wish i could connect my mouse and keyboard to the xbox as i cant aim for shyt with the controller. im terrible, kinda sucks that xbox wont work with mouse and kb while ps3 i heard does.

 

[OvrClkr]

i purchased this adapter for the PS3, here is the 360 version :

http://www.ishopvideogame.com/max-shooter-for-xbox-360-p-1743.html

obliterate everyone who is using the regular controller.....

 

[MrDrift]

wat do you mean have to use steam to play

 

[huntsman]

i heard that adapter doesnt work well for the 360 and i thought the ps3 didnt need an adapter as it supported keyboard and mouse while 360 only supports keyboard to chat

 

[OvrClkr]

the only keyboard for the PS3 that works without the adapter is the logitech blue tooth, it does not have a mouse. If you want mouse and keyboard you need the adapter....

 

[JofaMang]

Any wireless KB with a USB reciever works on the PS3, actually, any KB that conforms to USB connection standard works, in my experience. I currently use a Logitech with mine, but have used super cheap no-name wireless and wired KBs without issue.

I am totally gonna get that adapter, OverClkr, infact, I am totally pumped about it now. Still not paying for MW2 (friend going on vacation with his parents until feb is lending me his games next week, MW2 is one of them, HAH, FU IW/Act) but I would also like to give it a shot in KZ2 and R2, games I regularly pop into still these days.

 

[OvrClkr]

Yea^^, what I meant is that if you want both the key/mouse combo you need the adapter. Would be nice if we could just connect the keyboard and mouse via USB w/o having to deal with the adapter.

To be honest, the adapter works fine for the PS3 but it's a pain to set-up. You have to play with the sensitivity buttons as far as the mouse goes. But once you have all the buttons configured correctly it's pretty sweet.

 

[JofaMang]

I am gonna check around my city before I pay that price online, seems a little steep for an adapter, althout admittedly it does a lot more than just adapt the plug ins, heh.

It is a surface hardware effect, so I assume there is no problem using it any game, its settings are all based within the device?

 

[OvrClkr]

The first adapter that came out (blue) was/is 99.99$, then the max shooter came out at 59.99$, since then the price skyrocketed to around 75.00$ and on some websites it is selling for 95.00/100.00$ + shipping.... The price went up due to high demand and the fact that many are just buying it for MW2 alone....

http://www.amazon.com/XFPS-RATEUP-adapter-PLAYSTATION-3/dp/B0013WI4L6