Monitor doesn't get signal from vid card,

[thebladeroden]

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my specs:

Motherboard: Intel D850GB,
CPU: P4 1.75Ghz
Video Card: ATI Radeon 9600 128MB,
Monitor: Gateway EV700
Memory: RIMM RAMBUS 512MB,
Hard Drive: 2x80GB HD
450W PSU

Now this setup has worked before, but I guess multiple instances of taking
it apart and putting it back together has taken it's toll.

When I power up my system, the fans all come on and the hard drive starts
making noise, so I think it's booting up. However my monitor is not getting
any signal. The monitor will start playing the test image when it gets
attached to the vid card, but it won't get any actual video data.

Now the vid card and monitor work fine when used on the other motherboard,
so I think the issue might be with this mobo, even though it worked fine
before.

And I don't think the problem is with me attaching the vid card faultily
because when i tried with my Geforce 3, the fan on that will turn on when I
boot up the system.

Well I hope I explained my problem thoroughly enough for you to help me.

 

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"TheBladeRoden" <TheBladeRoden@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> my specs:
>
> Motherboard: Intel D850GB,
> CPU: P4 1.75Ghz
> Video Card: ATI Radeon 9600 128MB,
> Monitor: Gateway EV700
> Memory: RIMM RAMBUS 512MB,
> Hard Drive: 2x80GB HD
> 450W PSU
>
> Now this setup has worked before, but I guess multiple instances of taking
> it apart and putting it back together has taken it's toll.
>
> When I power up my system, the fans all come on and the hard drive starts
> making noise, so I think it's booting up. However my monitor is not
> getting
> any signal. The monitor will start playing the test image when it gets
> attached to the vid card, but it won't get any actual video data.
>
> Now the vid card and monitor work fine when used on the other motherboard,
> so I think the issue might be with this mobo, even though it worked fine
> before.
>
> And I don't think the problem is with me attaching the vid card faultily
> because when i tried with my Geforce 3, the fan on that will turn on when
> I
> boot up the system.
>
> Well I hope I explained my problem thoroughly enough for you to help me.

Take it all apart again, leaving just the motherboard, memory, processor,
and video card. Power supply, obviously. You can do this outside the case,
if you want, to verify that nothing on the case is shorting. Leave the
drives unplugged from power, and the ide/floppy cables unplugged from the
motherboard. See if it turns on. If no, you can remove memory and/or vid
card. You should get an interesting beep from the motherboard. If no beeps,
the motherboard is likely the problem, as it should at least be able to
signal a video or memory error.

If it does post with just the mobo, proc, mem and vid, start adding
components back one at a time. Either you'll find one that's gone bad, or
you'll find out that there was an assembly problem before.

 

[thebladeroden]

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"D.Currie" wrote:

>
> Take it all apart again, leaving just the motherboard, memory, processor,
> and video card. Power supply, obviously. You can do this outside the case,
> if you want, to verify that nothing on the case is shorting. Leave the
> drives unplugged from power, and the ide/floppy cables unplugged from the
> motherboard. See if it turns on. If no, you can remove memory and/or vid
> card. You should get an interesting beep from the motherboard. If no beeps,
> the motherboard is likely the problem, as it should at least be able to
> signal a video or memory error.
>
> If it does post with just the mobo, proc, mem and vid, start adding
> components back one at a time. Either you'll find one that's gone bad, or
> you'll find out that there was an assembly problem before.


Ok so i stripped the mobo of almost everything. When it doesn't have video
card or memory, I get 3 long beeps. With a vid card and without memory I get
3 long beeps. When I have memory but no vid card I get no beeps. And when I
have both vid card and memory I get no beeps. In all cases the fans turned on
but there was still no video signal.

 

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D.Currie's suggestions are all good.

There's more troubleshooting information and general
motherboard info available at
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS
-010256.htm .

In addition to Currie's suggestions, either check the
power leads with appropriate equipment (if available), or
consider temporarily replacing the power supply. Sometimes
a faulty power supply can cause this sort of issue,
especially when only one or a few leads die.

If you do trace the problem to the motherboard, don't give
up hope yet. I've dealt with an Intel motherboard with
onboard video that exhibited a similar issue when first
installed. In that case, the CMOS was somehow corrupted
and had to be reset. If you run out of other options,
consider trying to reset the CMOS.

Looking through the manual, it appears there's a jumper
you can move to load BIOS defaults, so that may be worth a
try. Also note that if the jumper was accidentally
removed, the board may be trying to recover its BIOS using
a floppy. So check the jumper to make certain it's in the
proper place.

>-----Original Message-----
>
>"TheBladeRoden" <TheBladeRoden@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in message
>news:78FFDD56-8F8B-4A98-BD16-4ABCB5BAF543@microsoft.com...
>> my specs:
>>
>> Motherboard: Intel D850GB,
>> CPU: P4 1.75Ghz
>> Video Card: ATI Radeon 9600 128MB,
>> Monitor: Gateway EV700
>> Memory: RIMM RAMBUS 512MB,
>> Hard Drive: 2x80GB HD
>> 450W PSU
>>
>> Now this setup has worked before, but I guess multiple
instances of taking
>> it apart and putting it back together has taken it's
toll.
>>
>> When I power up my system, the fans all come on and the
hard drive starts
>> making noise, so I think it's booting up. However my
monitor is not
>> getting
>> any signal. The monitor will start playing the test
image when it gets
>> attached to the vid card, but it won't get any actual
video data.
>>
>> Now the vid card and monitor work fine when used on the
other motherboard,
>> so I think the issue might be with this mobo, even
though it worked fine
>> before.
>>
>> And I don't think the problem is with me attaching the
vid card faultily
>> because when i tried with my Geforce 3, the fan on that
will turn on when
>> I
>> boot up the system.
>>
>> Well I hope I explained my problem thoroughly enough
for you to help me.
>
>Take it all apart again, leaving just the motherboard,
memory, processor,
>and video card. Power supply, obviously. You can do this
outside the case,
>if you want, to verify that nothing on the case is
shorting. Leave the
>drives unplugged from power, and the ide/floppy cables
unplugged from the
>motherboard. See if it turns on. If no, you can remove
memory and/or vid
>card. You should get an interesting beep from the
motherboard. If no beeps,
>the motherboard is likely the problem, as it should at
least be able to
>signal a video or memory error.
>
>If it does post with just the mobo, proc, mem and vid,
start adding
>components back one at a time. Either you'll find one
that's gone bad, or
>you'll find out that there was an assembly problem
before.
>
>
>.
>

 

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Just as an addition to my prior response, given the new
information:

3 beeps indicates there's an error in the first 64k of
memory. That's hardly surprising, since you get 3 beeps
only when you remove the memory.

The good new is this indicates the motherboard is working,
at least to some extent.

>-----Original Message-----
>"D.Currie" wrote:
>
>>
>> Take it all apart again, leaving just the motherboard,
memory, processor,
>> and video card. Power supply, obviously. You can do
this outside the case,
>> if you want, to verify that nothing on the case is
shorting. Leave the
>> drives unplugged from power, and the ide/floppy cables
unplugged from the
>> motherboard. See if it turns on. If no, you can remove
memory and/or vid
>> card. You should get an interesting beep from the
motherboard. If no beeps,
>> the motherboard is likely the problem, as it should at
least be able to
>> signal a video or memory error.
>>
>> If it does post with just the mobo, proc, mem and vid,
start adding
>> components back one at a time. Either you'll find one
that's gone bad, or
>> you'll find out that there was an assembly problem
before.
>
>
>Ok so i stripped the mobo of almost everything. When it
doesn't have video
>card or memory, I get 3 long beeps. With a vid card and
without memory I get
>3 long beeps. When I have memory but no vid card I get no
beeps. And when I
>have both vid card and memory I get no beeps. In all
cases the fans turned on
>but there was still no video signal.
>.
>

 

[thebladeroden]

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Perhaps it has something to do with my attempts to replace the bettery a few
das ago.

 

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How 'bout the obvious... cable, connections...


"TheBladeRoden" <TheBladeRoden@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> my specs:
>
> Motherboard: Intel D850GB,
> CPU: P4 1.75Ghz
> Video Card: ATI Radeon 9600 128MB,
> Monitor: Gateway EV700
> Memory: RIMM RAMBUS 512MB,
> Hard Drive: 2x80GB HD
> 450W PSU
>
> Now this setup has worked before, but I guess multiple instances of taking
> it apart and putting it back together has taken it's toll.
>
> When I power up my system, the fans all come on and the hard drive starts
> making noise, so I think it's booting up. However my monitor is not
getting
> any signal. The monitor will start playing the test image when it gets
> attached to the vid card, but it won't get any actual video data.
>
> Now the vid card and monitor work fine when used on the other motherboard,
> so I think the issue might be with this mobo, even though it worked fine
> before.
>
> And I don't think the problem is with me attaching the vid card faultily
> because when i tried with my Geforce 3, the fan on that will turn on when
I
> boot up the system.
>
> Well I hope I explained my problem thoroughly enough for you to help me.

 

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"TheBladeRoden" <TheBladeRoden@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:78FFDD56-8F8B-4A98-BD16-4ABCB5BAF543@microsoft.com...
> my specs:
>
> Motherboard: Intel D850GB,
> CPU: P4 1.75Ghz
> Video Card: ATI Radeon 9600 128MB,
> Monitor: Gateway EV700
> Memory: RIMM RAMBUS 512MB,
> Hard Drive: 2x80GB HD
> 450W PSU
>
> Now this setup has worked before, but I guess multiple instances of taking
> it apart and putting it back together has taken it's toll.
>
> When I power up my system, the fans all come on and the hard drive starts
> making noise, so I think it's booting up. However my monitor is not
> getting
> any signal. The monitor will start playing the test image when it gets
> attached to the vid card, but it won't get any actual video data.
>
> Now the vid card and monitor work fine when used on the other motherboard,
> so I think the issue might be with this mobo, even though it worked fine

are there any abnormal POST beep codes?

AGP video card or CPU firmly seated in their sockets?

possibly bad/failing RAM, if more than 2 RAM modules, try populating only
Bank0, alternating b/w modules to see if one of them is bad. unplug all PCI
cards and disconnect all other hardware from mainboard except keyboard and
AGP video card/monitor while testing. when pulling/plugging adapter cards,
turn OFF AC to the power supply, allow at least 30seconds for power supply
to discharge (PCI slots are live, even when computer is turned off). if
computer is plugged into a power bar, turn off the power bar switch but
leave the computer and power bar plugged in, that will keep the chassis
grounded while you work on the machine, so if your skin maintains contact
with the grounded chassis, static will not build-up on your body.

diagnostic beep codes for intel boards:
http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-010249.htm

support for d850gb board:
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/

d850gb issues:
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/lk_issues.htm

AGP compatibility:
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-009010.htm

d850gb RAM:
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/sb/CS-013246.htm

--
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"TheBladeRoden" <TheBladeRoden@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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i assume you don't have another video card laying around (PCI or AGP) that
you could use to test the Intel board?

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[thebladeroden]

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I've used an ATI Radeon 9600 and a GeForce 3 with similar results

"francis gérard" wrote:

>
> "TheBladeRoden" <TheBladeRoden@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:78FFDD56-8F8B-4A98-BD16-4ABCB5BAF543@microsoft.com...
>
> i assume you don't have another video card laying around (PCI or AGP) that
> you could use to test the Intel board?
>
> --
> francis
>
>
>

 

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"TheBladeRoden" <TheBladeRoden@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Perhaps it has something to do with my attempts to replace the bettery a
> few
> das ago.

ummm, interesting... replacing the battery should not corrupt the BIOS,
although the board may lose system parameters stored in the CMOS, in which
case the system is supposed to reload the default parameters from in the
BIOS

who knows, you may need to put the board into BIOS recovery mode (see url
below), i've done this with an Intel board in the past, you need a floppy
disk with the BIOS image file on it, set jumper J8C2 to recovery mode, put
disk in drive, turn ON computer and system will reload the BIOS boot block.
when the process is complete, it notifies you with a beep. turn off the
power, reposition the BIOS recovery jumper to normal mode, start system.

Intel® Desktop Board D850GB
Configuration Jumpers

http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/sb/CS-013239.htm
Intel® Desktop Board D850GB
Recommended BIOS Version

http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/sb/CS-013260.htm

Intel BIOS Recovery Process:
http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/recoverybios.htm

http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d845ebt/sb/cs-002905-prd952.htm


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[thebladeroden]

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On this page
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/Filter_Results.asp?strOSs=45&strTypes=BIO%2CDRV%2CUTL&ProductID=486&OSFullName=Windows%2A+XP+Home+Edition

all I'm seeing are .exe files and I think I need a .bio file

"francis gérard" wrote:


>
> Intel® Desktop Board D850GB
> Configuration Jumpers
>
> http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/sb/CS-013239.htm
> Intel® Desktop Board D850GB
> Recommended BIOS Version
>
> http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/sb/CS-013260.htm
>
> Intel BIOS Recovery Process:
> http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/recoverybios.htm
>
> http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d845ebt/sb/cs-002905-prd952.htm
>
>
> --
> francis
>
>
>

 

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I am surprised nobody has metioned this yet. You have an i850G chipset.
This means you have an integrated video controller. By changing the
battery out, you have reset the BIOS settings which default back to the
integrated video card. Try connecting the monitor to the other video
source

----
Nathan McNulty


TheBladeRoden wrote:
> my specs:
>
> Motherboard: Intel D850GB,
> CPU: P4 1.75Ghz
> Video Card: ATI Radeon 9600 128MB,
> Monitor: Gateway EV700
> Memory: RIMM RAMBUS 512MB,
> Hard Drive: 2x80GB HD
> 450W PSU
>
> Now this setup has worked before, but I guess multiple instances of taking
> it apart and putting it back together has taken it's toll.
>
> When I power up my system, the fans all come on and the hard drive starts
> making noise, so I think it's booting up. However my monitor is not getting
> any signal. The monitor will start playing the test image when it gets
> attached to the vid card, but it won't get any actual video data.
>
> Now the vid card and monitor work fine when used on the other motherboard,
> so I think the issue might be with this mobo, even though it worked fine
> before.
>
> And I don't think the problem is with me attaching the vid card faultily
> because when i tried with my Geforce 3, the fan on that will turn on when I
> boot up the system.
>
> Well I hope I explained my problem thoroughly enough for you to help me.

 

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How about the onboard video? See my other post

----
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TheBladeRoden wrote:
> I've used an ATI Radeon 9600 and a GeForce 3 with similar results
>
> "francis gérard" wrote:
>
>
>>"TheBladeRoden" <TheBladeRoden@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:78FFDD56-8F8B-4A98-BD16-4ABCB5BAF543@microsoft.com...
>>
>>i assume you don't have another video card laying around (PCI or AGP) that
>>you could use to test the Intel board?
>>
>>--
>>francis
>>
>>
>>

 

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"TheBladeRoden" <TheBladeRoden@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> On this page
> http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/Filter_Results.asp?strOSs=45&strTypes=BIO%2CDRV%2CUTL&ProductID=486&OSFullName=Windows%2A+XP+Home+Edition
>
> all I'm seeing are .exe files and I think I need a .bio file

go here:
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/sb/CS-013260.htm

click on the 'BIOS P06 or later' link, chose OS Independent from the
listbox, press GO, you will see the BIOS for the D850GB. download the BIOS
self-extracting archive to a temporary directory, open a command-console
(dos prompt) in the temporary directory, run the 'gb-p18.exe' executable, it
will self-extract to the same directory, put a floppy in the drive, type
RUN.BAT, press Enter. a bootable floppy with the .BIO files will be
created. when completed, move the floppy disk into the drive of the Intel
machine, configure the BIOS jumper for recovery mode, start the system,
there will be NO video, wait for BIOS boot block to be recovered from the
floppy, the system should turn OFF when the process is complete. move
jumper back to normal position, restart system. you may also want to use
same the same floppy to reflash the BIOS, as i'm not sure if the the
recovery process only updates the boot block or the entire BIOS.

goodluck
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the following may also prove helpful:

http://support.intel.com/design/motherbd/standardbios.htm

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[thebladeroden]

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Bah. I'm doomed I'm doomed! I removed the jumper like said but alas no
activity from the A drive

 

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"Nathan McNulty" <nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
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> How about the onboard video? See my other post

the Intel D850GB does not have onboard video

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"Nathan McNulty" <nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
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>I am surprised nobody has metioned this yet. You have an i850G chipset.
>This means you have an integrated video controller. By changing the battery
>out, you have reset the BIOS settings which default back to the integrated
>video card. Try connecting the monitor to the other video source

the Intel D850GB does not have onboard video

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"francis gérard" <spam@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Nathan McNulty" <nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:etGnoJ1iEHA.2664@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>I am surprised nobody has metioned this yet. You have an i850G chipset.
>>This means you have an integrated video controller. By changing the
>>battery out, you have reset the BIOS settings which default back to the
>>integrated video card. Try connecting the monitor to the other video
>>source
>
> the Intel D850GB does not have onboard video

and of course, you're right, that was also the first thing i thought of, but
being unfamiliar with the D850GB, i looked it up on the Intel site to see if
it had integrated video, which it does not

http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/

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"francis gérard" <spam@spamcop.net> wrote in message news:ODazVg4iEHA.556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
> "francis gérard" <spam@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:%23RXYSb4iEHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Nathan McNulty" <nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:etGnoJ1iEHA.2664@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>I am surprised nobody has metioned this yet. You have an i850G chipset.
>>>This means you have an integrated video controller. By changing the
>>>battery out, you have reset the BIOS settings which default back to the
>>>integrated video card. Try connecting the monitor to the other video
>>>source
>>
>> the Intel D850GB does not have onboard video
>
> and of course, you're right, that was also the first thing i thought of, but
> being unfamiliar with the D850GB, i looked it up on the Intel site to see if
> it had integrated video, which it does not
>
> http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/
>

Do you think Nathan is so dumb, that he couldn't grasp the first time you told him there is no integrated video on that particular MOBO model (at least until he replied to your initial response), or do you just like seeing yourself repeat the same thing over and over again?

 

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"TheBladeRoden" <TheBladeRoden@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Bah. I'm doomed I'm doomed! I removed the jumper like said but alas no
> activity from the A drive

doh!
btw, you don't need video card installed, just cpu, ram in bank0, and floppy
drive to restore the BIOS bootblock.

if the BIOS recovery mode doesn't work, then there's something wrong with
the board. remove it from the enclosure, flip it over and carefully inspect
the bottom for shorted pins, broken circuit traces, flecks of
debris/conductive material, use alcohol to clean if necessary. rest the
board on non-conductive, antistatic surface, remove cpu and ram and other
peripheral hardware from the board, inspect them carefully for damage.

start over, plugin CPU, make sure it's properly seated and locked. do the
same for the RAM, bank0 only (2modules). don't reassemble the board inside
the enclosure just yet. either remove the power supply and floppy drive
from the enclosure or flip on its side, close enough so that the power
supply leads and floppy cable will plug into the mainboard. check
everything over (at least twice), connections all good, no stray conductive
materials to cause a short, etc. start her/him up.

i assume you've tested all peripheral hardware, cpu, ram, video, etc in
another machine (mainboard)?

tip - the antistatic bag that the mainboard was packaged in would make a
good antistatic surface to rest the board on while it's being worked-on
outside of the enclosure.
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"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
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> Do you think Nathan is so dumb, that he couldn't grasp the first time you
> told him
> there is no integrated video on that particular MOBO model (at least until
> he
> replied to your initial response), or do you just like seeing yourself
> repeat the
> same thing over and over again?

who pissed in your wheeties this morning?
and thanks for contributing absolutely *nothing* of value to this
discussion.

you don't like what i have to say... BLOCK ME and FO!
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"francis gérard" <spam@spamcop.net> wrote in message news:OJjEw35iEHA.140@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
> news:urbBku5iEHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>
>> Do you think Nathan is so dumb, that he couldn't grasp the first time you
>> told him
>> there is no integrated video on that particular MOBO model (at least until
>> he
>> replied to your initial response), or do you just like seeing yourself
>> repeat the
>> same thing over and over again?
>
> who pissed in your wheeties this morning?
> and thanks for contributing absolutely *nothing* of value to this
> discussion.

So, you answer a question with a question; I guess ol'Nathan will just have to live in condescension.

>
> you don't like what i have to say... BLOCK ME and FO!

Wow, getting pissy regarding what you *think* I like or don't like (though I never posted a word to convey that thought)! Do yourself a favor, don't assume so much, and direct your reply according to the query.

Anyway, what is your answer to the question?

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> So, you answer a question with a question; I guess ol'Nathan will just
> have to live in condescension.

look fool, do NOT put words in my mouth, i did not imply for a millisecond
that nathan was "dumb" (YOU said that, NOT me). furthermore, i would not
say any such thing about Nathan, as i've read many of his articles, he,
unlike yourself, is one of the few who do NOT say dumb things. if you had
read more carefully, instead of nitpicking about newsgroup etiquette, you
would have seen that i agreed with Nathan's assertion about the onboard
video, and i merely followed-up with a correction about the D850GB. i think
Nathan is SMART enough to figure that out on his own, and doesn't need
persnickety pricks like you to hit-n-run on a discussion thread without
contributing anything of value.

> you don't like what i have to say... BLOCK ME and FO!

> Wow, getting pissy regarding what you *think* I like or don't like
> (though I never posted a word to convey that thought)!
> Do yourself a favor, don't assume so much, and direct your reply according
> to the query.

i'll stop assuming when you stop your bitching about my articles

> Anyway, what is your answer to the question?

you idiot... haven't you been following this thread??? i think not. READ
CAREFULLY, i've contributed many follow-up articles to the original query.

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francis