Most Demanding Game

[casualcolors]

Never really liked Halo. Always kind of thought it was an absolutely awful shooter that I couldn't stand playing :x And I love FPS games.

No love for Master Chief though. Not a big fan of the over the shoulder shooters either. Too awkward =)

 

[PCgamer81]

Never really liked Halo. Always kind of thought it was an absolutely awful shooter that I couldn't stand playing :x And I love FPS games.

No love for Master Chief though. Not a big fan of the over the shoulder shooters either. Too awkward =)

As for over the shoulder shooters, I guess it's just a matter of taste. The graphics are so good in Gears of War (especially the textures) that I thought going with a 3rd person perspective was an interesting design choice. The reason the design team gave was so that the player could actually see their character, and by doing so, feel much more connected to Marcus Fenix and appreciate the design model. It also fit the gameplay better. I prefer 1st person shooters myself, but with Gears of War, I think the 3rd person is ideal, considering the gameplay and art style.

Halo, wow. You don't like Halo...

The first Halo blew me away. I'll never forget it. After trading in my PS2 for an Xbox, the very first game I chose was Halo: Combat Evolved. Needless to say, after experiencing it I couldn't wait for Halo 2. I, too, had been a fan of the FPS genre for a long time, and after sinking my teeth into Halo, all I ever wanted to play was shooters. I have branched off a little since then, but to this day the first person shooter is the genre I play the most (which is pretty much the case with everyone nowadays).

Halo was an incredible experience. The story, the music, the gameplay - it was the total package. The AI was the best I had ever seen in a shooter up to that point, and sticking grenades to enemies and hearing the doomed foe scream out in horror was quite the experience for it's time. I love it and always will.

I am curious as to what you didn't like about it.

 

[Guest]

I didnt like Halo either i felt it was a slower paced unreal tournament ripoff.

 

[casualcolors]

As for over the shoulder shooters, I guess it's just a matter of taste. The graphics are so good in Gears of War (especially the textures) that I thought going with a 3rd person perspective was an interesting design choice. The reason the design team gave was so that the player could actually see their character, and by doing so, feel much more connected to Marcus Fenix and appreciate the design model. It also fit the gameplay better. I prefer 1st person shooters myself, but with Gears of War, I think the 3rd person is ideal, considering the gameplay and art style.

Halo, wow. You don't like Halo...

The first Halo blew me away. I'll never forget it. After trading in my PS2 for an Xbox, the very first game I chose was Halo: Combat Evolved. Needless to say, after experiencing it I couldn't wait for Halo 2. I, too, had been a fan of the FPS genre for a long time, and after sinking my teeth into Halo, all I ever wanted to play was shooters. I have branched off a little since then, but to this day the first person shooter is the genre I play the most (which is pretty much the case with everyone nowadays).

Halo was an incredible experience. The story, the music, the gameplay - it was the total package. The AI was the best I had ever seen in a shooter up to that point, and sticking grenades to enemies and hearing the doomed foe scream out in horror was quite the experience for it's time. I love it and always will.

I am curious as to what you didn't like about it.

My problem with Halo was pretty much limited to the fact that the people playing it were just the people who weren't good enough for the Quake, Counterstrike or Unreal scenes. Add in the fact that it seems to become a worse game with every new iteration, and I just have no love for Halo =/. Story might have been ok but if I feel like multiplayer or gun selection is weak or boring in an fps game, it subverts it enough that I stop caring about the single player. In the case of titles like Reach, I just can't take console fps games seriously. It's even funnier when they try to shoe-horn it into an e-sport.

Gears of War seems like a cool game but I just really don't care for over the shoulder shooters. Having an object in the peripheral (and actually losing half of the field of view that I want to see sometimes because of how its implemented) is so frustrating that I just can't bring myself to want to play that style.

 

[PCgamer81]

I didnt like Halo either i felt it was a slower paced unreal tournament ripoff.

After a remark like that, I wonder if you ever did play it.

Halo is nothing like UT. Not even close. UT is a fast paced, run and gun and jump arena style multiplayer shooter. There are vehicles. That is about the only similarity. But even the vehicles are so different from the vehicles in Halo that it would be like comparing vehicles from Grand Theft Auto 4 and Forza Motorsport. Just no way.

Halo is a single player focused (albeit with great multiplayer that's nothing like UT) shooter with a great story, and plays infinitely different than UT.

You might as well compare jet-skiing with hopscotch.

 

[casualcolors]

Point is moot. Series evolved to console shooter. Can't take seriously! I'm with mikem

 

[PCgamer81]

My problem with Halo was pretty much limited to the fact that the people playing it were just the people who weren't good enough for the Quake, Counterstrike or Unreal scenes. Add in the fact that it seems to become a worse game with every new iteration, and I just have no love for Halo =/. Story might have been ok but if I feel like multiplayer or gun selection is weak or boring in an fps game, it subverts it enough that I stop caring about the single player. In the case of titles like Reach, I just can't take console fps games seriously. It's even funnier when they try to shoe-horn it into an e-sport.

Gears of War seems like a cool game but I just really don't care for over the shoulder shooters. Having an object in the peripheral (and actually losing half of the field of view that I want to see sometimes because of how its implemented) is so frustrating that I just can't bring myself to want to play that style.

I will agree that most of the people who play it aren't good enough for PC shooters. But I will not agree that their lack of skills is WHY they play Halo. That's just not true. Also, a lot of the people on Halo never really played the PC shooters, and if they did, with enough practice they could get good. They don't want to, though. Halo is what they enjoy.

Me, I don't play Halo's multiplayer. It is the campaign mode I cherish.

Also, you bring up weapons. I think one very cool thing is that you can pick up and use covenant weapons. And remember, Halo 2 was one of the first shooters to introduce dual-wielding.

Well, you have your reasons.

 

[PCgamer81]

Point is moot. Series evolved to console shooter. Can't take seriously! I'm with mikem

So Halo reminds you of a slower UT?

 

[casualcolors]

So Halo reminds you of a slower UT?

Kinda. Slower sci-fi arena shooter but without the things that make UT good in the first place. So really, saying that it's a slower UT feels like too favorable of a comparison imo.

 

[PCgamer81]

Kinda. Slower sci-fi arena shooter but without the things that make UT good in the first place. So really, saying that it's a slower UT feels like too favorable of a comparison imo.

Hell, seeing as how UT was one the fathers of the genre, any modern day shooter could be likened to a slower UT (and 99% of FPS are slower than UT), which makes disliking a shooter based on those grounds all the more unreasonable. No offense.

 

[Stringjam]

A game being slower than UT, and especially Quake, is just fine with me.

That arena gig gets old really fast to me......I can take a little bit of it and I'm done. It's like a practice of insane repetition. 😉

 

[Guest]

I played through halo 1 and to be honest with all the hype it got i kept waiting for it to get good and it never really did.I will admitt i had some fun playing splitscreen DM with my nephew but Halo series as a whole are the most overrated games of all time imo.If i never played any fps on the PC or gotten into the unreal tournament series i might have a different outlook.halo is just blah to me.

 

[casualcolors]

I played through halo 1 and to be honest with all the hype it got i kept waiting for it to get good and it never really did.I will admitt i had some fun playing splitscreen DM with my nephew but Halo series as a whole are the most overrated games of all time imo.If i never played any fps on the PC or gotten into the unreal tournament series i might have a different outlook.halo is just blah to me.

+1

UT and Quake can be considered grandfathers to a lot of games, and that doesn't make those games bad. But if those games have nothing to offer that entertains me (such as in Halo's case) then I cannot be held responsible for how much hate I'm forced to give it! =)

 

[PCgamer81]

+1

UT and Quake can be considered grandfathers to a lot of games, and that doesn't make those games bad. But if those games have nothing to offer that entertains me (such as in Halo's case) then I cannot be held responsible for how much hate I'm forced to give it! =)

You're right, drawing inspiration from games that helped define the genre doesn't make a game bad. But, leveling a criticism against a game for resembling it, especially when the same criticism isn't leveled at, say for instance, Crysis 2 (which has a lot more in common with Halo than UT from a design standpoint), seems a tad arbitrary. If the game as a whole fails to hook you, that is fine. But, considering the level of innovation brought forth by UT, mikem criticizing Halo for merely resembling it is utterly ridiculous.

 

[casualcolors]

You're right, drawing inspiration from games that helped define the genre doesn't make a game bad. But, leveling a criticism against a game for resembling it, especially when the same criticism isn't leveled at, say for instance, Crysis 2 (which has a lot more in common with Halo than UT from a design standpoint), seems a tad arbitrary. If the game as a whole fails to hook you, that is fine. But, considering the level of innovation brought forth by UT, mikem criticizing Halo for merely resembling it is utterly ridiculous.

I actually said that qualifying Halo as just a slower UT was too favorable of a comparison for Halo 😉 I think the game is far worse than that lol. Forgive mike his transgression and just pretend he said what I said. Hating that Halo.

 

[PCgamer81]

I actually said that qualifying Halo as just a slower UT was too favorable of a comparison for Halo 😉 I think the game is far worse than that lol. Forgive mike his transgression and just pretend he said what I said. Hating that Halo.

Meh, water under the bridge. He's forgiven.

I am not one to hold a grudge.

 

[Guest]

You're right, drawing inspiration from games that helped define the genre doesn't make a game bad. But, leveling a criticism against a game for resembling it, especially when the same criticism isn't leveled at, say for instance, Crysis 2 (which has a lot more in common with Halo than UT from a design standpoint), seems a tad arbitrary. If the game as a whole fails to hook you, that is fine. But, considering the level of innovation brought forth by UT, mikem criticizing Halo for merely resembling it is utterly ridiculous.

Not sure how you think crysis has more incommon with halo then UT does?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HGH2E8LP-M


you can find dozens of videos and sites comparing the two.I was being nice really by comparing the two but to put it blunt halo is a very dumbed down poor mans unreal tournament.sorry its just not good atleast in my eyes.

 

[PCgamer81]

Not sure how you think crysis has more incommon with halo then UT does?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HGH2E8LP-M


you can find dozens of videos and sites comparing the two.I was being nice really by comparing the two but to put it blunt halo is a very dumbed down poor mans unreal tournament.sorry its just not good atleast in my eyes.

Regardless, you didn't say UT3. You said UT. For anyone who has ever played UT, that is a distinction that is absolutely mandatory. You have UT, UT2004, and then you have ****. If you don't believe me, ask someone (casualcolors, perhaps) who has been around.

And that is one of Halo 3's few indoor maps.

As far as comparisons, just look at Halo videos and see if they more closely match Crysis 2, or this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I62HRtxYHyM

It's not even debatable. Goodnight.

 

[casualcolors]

Crysis 2's multiplayer always felt like what Halo wishes it was, to me. Funny how Crysis 2's MP never really took off despite being good.

 

[Guest]

Regardless, you didn't say UT3. You said UT. For anyone who has ever played UT, that is a distinction that is absolutely mandatory. You have UT, UT2004, and then you have ****. If you don't believe me, ask someone (casualcolors, perhaps) who has been around.

And that is one of Halo 3's few indoor maps.

As far as comparisons, just look at Halo videos and see if they more closely match Crysis 2, or this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I62HRtxYHyM

It's not even debatable. Goodnight.

Ive played them all for years ty very much and other then a few mechanics there all pretty much the same.In your mind its not debatable

 

[PCgamer81]

Crysis 2's multiplayer always felt like what Halo wishes it was, to me. Funny how Crysis 2's MP never really took off despite being good.

I agree 100%.

I don't bother with Halo multiplayer, to be honest. I always thought it sucked. I am not arguing that it doesn't suck, just that it's nothing like UT, for better or worse.

I do most of all my gaming on PC anyway. I find the console controller to be illogical and I hate it. The frame rate on console is terrible, as well.

I put up with it because I really like the Halo universe and story (I've read the books, too). And there are certain facets of the gameplay that I find extremely entertaining. I have actually thought about getting one of those third party adapters so I can use the mouse and keyboard on Xbox 360, but everyone says they suck.

 

[PCgamer81]

Ive played them all for years ty very much and other then a few mechanics there all pretty much the same.In your mind its not debatable

Played all of what? Unreal Tournaments? And I assume you have played Halo for years as well? Or did you just glance at it?

Well, I have played both series for years (although UT3 stinks), and I am telling you they are vastly different. If you don't like Halo, fine. I couldn't care less.

But it is no more like UT than any other first person shooter on the market that drew inspiration from the big 3 (UT, Doom/Quake).

Just drop it, it's not worth arguing over. You clearly have your opinion and I don't agree with it. Fine.

 

[Guest]

PCgamer you act as if everything i say is wrong.Ive been around the PC gaming seen for a long time now.Ive built 10 custom pc gaming rigs in 15 years.Please stop treating me like a kid that doesnt know anything.Outside my crappy grammar im actually a pretty intelligent person.I have also built atleast 100 PC's over the years for friends and family and co-workers to fit there needs.Ive done the labor for free for love of the hobby.

 

[Guest]

Played all of what? Unreal Tournaments? And I assume you have played Halo for years as well? Or did you just glance at it?

Well, I have played both series for years (although UT3 stinks), and I am telling you they are vastly different. If you don't like Halo, fine. I couldn't care less.

But it is no more like UT than any other first person shooter on the market that drew inspiration from the big 3 (UT, Doom/Quake).

Just drop it, it's not worth arguing over. You clearly have your opinion and I don't agree with it. Fine.

please tell me what is so different about UT 3 over the rest?I played halo one to finish thats hardley a glance.please enlighten me toi the difference between unreal tour 3 then the rest other then a few mechanics?

 

[Guest]

Im also still waiting for your metro 2033 vs crysis comparison with a single gpu.