Most Demanding Game

[PCgamer81]

Im also still waiting for your metro 2033 vs crysis comparison with a single gpu.

Bystander told me not to bother, and he was the one I was arguing with about it.

In any case, you benchmarked them and I have no reason not to trust your results.

please tell me what is so different about UT 3 over the rest?I played halo one to finish thats hardley a glance.please enlighten me toi the difference between unreal tour 3 then the rest other then a few mechanics?

Wasn't smooth.
Buggy.
Bad movement.
Mediocre gameplay.
And overall, it just didn't feel right.

If you don't believe me, you are more than welcome to go on UT2004 and play a while, then go over and play UT3...

Wait, scratch that.

All you will find on UT3 are bots (no one's playing).

PCgamer you act as if everything i say is wrong.Ive been around the PC gaming seen for a long time now.Ive built 10 custom pc gaming rigs in 15 years.Please stop treating me like a kid that doesnt know anything.Outside my crappy grammar im actually a pretty intelligent person.I have also built atleast 100 PC's over the years for friends and family and co-workers to fit there needs.Ive done the labor for free for love of the hobby.

I am the same way. I love computers and would gladly build them for free.

I am sure you are an intelligent person. I never judge someone based on their grammar, unless they call someone else stupid while in the process of butchering the english language. In that case, I can't resist.

I don't disagree with everything you say, and I'm sorry if it seems like I do. About the only thing I disagree with is the way you overly value V-RAM, and your comparing of Halo with UT.

We're not always going to see eye to eye. But that don't mean we can't be civil and have a little fun debating.

With that said, I am fairly certain you are an excellent guy.

 

[Guest]

you know i can probably agree with you about vram.I guess i just always feel more is better.I do not want to be caught off guard and have a game comeout that cripples my vram.I guess i would take a few extra fps for more vram and smoother gameplay.I personally think buying a gpu with less then 2gb of vram nowadays isnt a wize move,but then again it depends on what settings you settle for.I like to crank my games as high as possible why i usually either go with the best of the best single card or dual middle end gpu's.Ive seen what gtx 570's in sli do in battlefield 2 in ultra and it plays fine until you get to some higher end explosions then it likes to stutter.This guy also has an i7-2600k so he has a legit system i believe he is also overcloked to 4.5 ghz.the vram is deffinetly bettering him with that game.if he had 2 of the 2560 mb versions i might have bit on his offer to trade even up my 1 for his 2

 

[PCgamer81]

you know i can probably agree with you about vram.I guess i just always feel more is better.I do not want to be caught off guard and have a game comeout that cripples my vram.I guess i would take a few extra fps for more vram and smoother gameplay.I personally think buying a gpu with less then 2gb of vram nowadays isnt a wize move,but then again it depends on what settings you settle for.I like to crank my games as high as possible why i usually either go with the best of the best single card or dual middle end gpu's.Ive seen what gtx 570's in sli do in battlefield 2 in ultra and it plays fine until you get to some higher end explosions then it likes to stutter.This guy also has an i7-2600k so he has a legit system i believe he is also overcloked to 4.5 ghz.the vram is deffinetly bettering him with that game.if he had 2 of the 2560 mb versions i might have bit on his offer to trade even up my 1 for his 2

Well, V-RAM is important. I don't want to give you the impression that I don't think it is.

I just think for 1080p gaming, 1GB of V-RAM is plenty. When the 1024x768 displays were popular, a graphics card with 64MB of V-RAM or less was good. Then, 1280x1024 became popular, and 256MB of V-RAM was the norm. The popular gaming resolution is now 1080p, and as such 1GB is enough in my opinion. The only thing I see is the correlation between resolutions increasing and V-RAM increasing. You are going to have the same number of pixels in 1080p, regardless of the game. As such, size takes a back seat to speed.

This is just my opinion.

 

[casualcolors]

I just think for 1080p gaming, 1GB of V-RAM is plenty.

Sadly this isn't true anymore. BF3 ups the standard for 1920x1080 to 1.5gb.

 

[Guest]

i wish people stick to the topic , maybe i should make another forum called "Game Settings" , i was thinking of making a poll "Most useless video Settings" , and plz dont steal my idea 😛 , if u want just speak , and since ppl r not sticking to the topic , i havent read carefully since page 4 or 5 , but after reading 5-6 replies on 8th page , i think the discussion is way off the topic

 

[casualcolors]

i wish people stick to the topic , maybe i should make another forum called "Game Settings" , i was thinking of making a poll "Most useless video Settings" , and plz dont steal my idea 😛 , if u want just speak , and since ppl r not sticking to the topic , i havent read carefully since page 4 or 5 , but after reading 5-6 replies on 8th page , i think the discussion is way off the topic

I'm out of room on my facebook wall thing and pcgamer has no other way to contact me. Show him mercy, for me.

 

[PCgamer81]

I'm out of room on my facebook wall thing and pcgamer has no other way to contact me. Show him mercy, for me.

I can always write you a note and give it to your girlfriend to give to you (the next time I see her).

 

[con310]

Played all of what? Unreal Tournaments? And I assume you have played Halo for years as well? Or did you just glance at it?

Well, I have played both series for years (although UT3 stinks), and I am telling you they are vastly different. If you don't like Halo, fine. I couldn't care less.

But it is no more like UT than any other first person shooter on the market that drew inspiration from the big 3 (UT, Doom/Quake).

Just drop it, it's not worth arguing over. You clearly have your opinion and I don't agree with it. Fine.

I dont get it? then why do you argue about it when you know your wrong? you were proved wrong with crysis being the most demanding game then you were proved wrong about VRam, now again with halo.

Just let it go man, your opinion is your opinion but it doesn't change the fact thats its incorrect.


back on topic...

Ya halo is overrated big time...i used to like playing 4 players with friends but the game is really boring other than that. still a good game, just overrared.

 

[casualcolors]

I can always write you a note and give it to your girlfriend to give to you (the next time I see her).

rack'em

 

[PCgamer81]

I dont get it? then why do you argue about it when you know your wrong? you were proved wrong with crysis being the most demanding game then you were proved wrong about VRam, now again with halo.

Just let it go man, your opinion is your opinion but it doesn't change the fact thats its incorrect.


back on topic...

Ya halo is overrated big time...i used to like playing 4 players with friends but the game is really boring other than that. still a good game, just overrared.

Crysis is more demanding than BF3. Period.

VRAM is important but it's not that important. The speed of the memory is a far more important thing to consider. Subjective.

As for Halo, that is entirely subjective. I like the story and the enemies, but hate the controls and multiplayer. I put up with it because the story is epic.

Again, subjective.

 

[Guest]

I agree Crysis is slightley more demanding then battlefield 3/Atleast from my benches.On a sidenote i just ordered the rest of my build new full tower,memory and an asrock gen 3 mobo.2 more weeks i order another 7970 so more benchies to come

 

[PCgamer81]

I agree Crysis is slightley more demanding then battlefield 3/Atleast from my benches.On a sidenote i just ordered the rest of my build new full tower,memory and an asrock gen 3 mobo.2 more weeks i order another 7970 so more benchies to come

Your gaming rig is beastly. You should be very proud of it. 😉

 

[con310]

Crysis is more demanding than BF3. Period.

VRAM is important but it's not that important. The speed of the memory is a far more important thing to consider. Subjective.

As for Halo, that is entirely subjective. I like the story and the enemies, but hate the controls and multiplayer. I put up with it because the story is epic.

Again, subjective.

Crysis is not the most demanding game. Fact. I never said BF3 was more demanding then crysis so i dont understand why you would use that as an argument other then you dont have one to begin with.

Yes, Vram is that important and will become more and more so, 1gig is not a lot of Vram like you say it is. That is already on the low end for BF3 if you wanna play on ultra.

Halo is a good game just never was a huge fan like a lot of people.

 

[PCgamer81]

Crysis is not the most demanding game. Fact. I never said BF3 was more demanding then crysis so i dont understand why you would use that as an argument other then you dont have one to begin with.

Yes, Vram is that important and will become more and more so, 1gig is not a lot of Vram like you say it is. That is already on the low end for BF3 if you wanna play on ultra.

Halo is a good game just never was a huge fan like a lot of people.

You are beginning to become like a fly that won't quit buzzing in my face.

I am not trying to give facts, Mr. Interloper. I am merely giving my opinions.

It is my opinion that the amount of VRAM, while still quite important, is not as important as the GPU's overall quality and speed.

For instance, I would take a 1.5GB 580 over the 2.5GB 570 any day of the week.

Again...

It is my opinion that the amount of VRAM, while still quite important, is not as important as the GPU's overall quality and speed.

If you don't think that's true, then good for you.

It is my opinion that it is true.

If you want to argue, go argue elsewhere.

But I stated my opinion, I've heard yours, and now you're annoying me.

Adieu.

 

[casualcolors]

This is getting dumb. I don't think anyone has posited yet that VRAM was the most significant feature of a video card, nor that it's completely irrelevant. At the end of the day, there are several things that comprise "the most important features of a graphics card". It has to be fast, it has to have ample memory clocked at the fastest stable speed, it has to have a lot of ass. Those are all basic principles. After that, the custom cooling and power consumption are somewhat less important as these tend to vary by customer. Some people love custom cooling solutions, other people prefer reference cards for SLI rigs where the risk of 2 cards blowing ambient hot air into the case would potentially limit the system.

I think everyone has more or less amended their original positions to fall relatively in line with common sense anyway. At this point people are on the verge of harping over topics that were well-tread pages ago.

 

[PCgamer81]

This is getting dumb. I don't think anyone has posited yet that VRAM was the most significant feature of a video card, nor that it's completely irrelevant. At the end of the day, there are several things that comprise "the most important features of a graphics card". It has to be fast, it has to have ample memory clocked at the fastest stable speed, it has to have a lot of ass. Those are all basic principles. After that, the custom cooling and power consumption are somewhat less important as these tend to vary by customer. Some people love custom cooling solutions, other people prefer reference cards for SLI rigs where the risk of 2 cards blowing ambient hot air into the case would potentially limit the system.

I think everyone has more or less amended their original positions to fall relatively in line with common sense anyway. At this point people are on the verge of harping over topics that were well-tread pages ago.

I agree that this is getting dumb.

I realize that nobody has posited that VRAM was the most significant feature of a video card. I hope you don't assume my above comment(s) are because I think someone in fact has.

No. It's not because anyone said VRAM was the most important aspect of a GPU that I have made my above comments. My above comments were made because my opinion (and it's just that, an opinion) has been repeatedly misconstrued (by just about everyone but you) as if to mean that I am saying that VRAM is useless, when in fact all I am saying is that there are other things to consider that outweigh it (again, my opinion).

And more to the point, every time this "con310" posts on this website, he is smart mouthed and argumentative. I certainly don't want to get into a flame war, because this is not the website for that. And while I can joke and get out in left field once in a while, I would prefer to keep things friendly.

 

[casualcolors]

Oh I want a flame war. I just want 2 hours notice so I can get nice and vascular first.

 

[PCgamer81]

Oh I want a flame war. I just want 2 hours notice so I can get nice and vascular first.

Sorry, but I got to get to that Crysis 2 video (I will post it in the Crysis vs Warhead vs Crysis 2 thread in a few hours).

Oh, one last thing I will say concerning the dispute is that I do feel for the most part responsible. When I went back over my first comments on the VRAM issue to see what exactly I said it does seem that I came across as kind of arrogant and presumptuous. I can see how that would rub people the wrong way. The truth is, there are many factors to weigh out when selecting a GPU and it's not really my place or anyone else's to say which is more important because it really varies concerning what a certain individual may need or expect from their video card.

 

[casualcolors]

If this is just going to end with everyone acquiescing to each other's demands I'm going to be pretty god damned pissed. I was fully expecting a battle royale, as evidenced by my hot pink cowboy hat, plastic shades and tassled cowboy gloves.

 

[PCgamer81]

If this is just going to end with everyone acquiescing to each other's demands I'm going to be pretty god damned pissed. I was fully expecting a battle royale, as evidenced by my hot pink cowboy hat, plastic shades and tassled cowboy gloves.

I literally lol'd. That was good.

 

[4Ryan6]

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