MSI Calls Out Gigabyte for "Not True PCIe 3.0"

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Actually, I'm disappointed with Tom's......
This is like 24Hr Old news...... already reported by TPU..... I read it yesterday Morning.....
I always wanted Toms to be the first though.....
Anyway, the articles good, news is good for customers who were going to go for the PCIe Gen 3
Now they can wait and see who's right.
 
Well, to be fair if you read the Gigabyte press release it sounds like they don't specifically claim to offer FULL PCI-E 3.0.

It sounds kinda like the HDTV marketing speal. It is PCI-E 3.0 "Ready" not "full". I guess they are claiming that they have enhanced their hardware compatibility through the latest BIOS update, to ensure that PCI-E 3.0 components function properly on their boards.

It does seem a little bit over-hyped, but I still think that if you can drop in a PCI-E 3.0 card into your system and know it will run reliably it is something worth announcing. Even if the bus bandwidth is not large enough to qualify as a true PCI-E 3.0 port.

I know some people have had issue putting PCI-E 2.1 cards into PCI-E 1.0 ports, so this is really just saying something like this won't happen again for this generation change.
 
Ggiabyte:
Hypermemory fiasco (selling 1GB and 512MB GDDR5 boards which in reality only containted 512MB and 128MB + Hypermemory)
G41 fiasco when their "x16" slots were only wired with x4.

Yeah Gigabyte has a history of cheating so I'm not surprised by this at all.
 
[citation][nom]internetlad[/nom]Either way i've never owned a gigabyte product, I've felt they're third tier products at a second tier price. I've been running an Asus board for years and it hasn't caused me problems yet![/citation]
Well, some people gave Gigabyte a try (such as me) after what they experienced with some Asus boards. I got two with so bad experiences I started to feel it cannot be any worse for Gigabyte.
Subject of this article is quite serious, I hope they are going to release/modify theirmotherboards. It also unintentionally shows one thing:
Gigabyte often attacks Asus as their competitors, where MSI attack Gigabyte. I thin that makes top tier list something like this:
1. Asus
2. Gigabyte
3. MSI
 
Here's one direction in which this technology could evolve:

By the year 2021, all disk drives have been banned because they consume too much electricity.

All SSDs have also been banned, because all storage is now being handled by "The Cloud(tm)" nicknamed "Nebulous" (not "Cumulus").

Operating Systems will boot from Nebulous, after the User inserts his/her government-issued encrypted thumb drive, with just enough space to store the requisite encryption key, and no more.

Users will not qualify for their "thumb keys" unless they have reached Level 10 on all Single Shooter ("SS") real-time synthetic urban warfare simulations, with performance strictly measured and evaluated by robotic agents, whose synaptic maps have been pre-approved by the newly organized DHUA (see below).

During operation, all "files" will be stored directly in RAM, or passed over 100 Gigabit Ethernet connections, some wired and most wireless.

Motherboards will no longer have SATA or SAS ports, because local storage is a thing of the past.

Yes, your motherboards will utilize PCI-Express 10.0 bus bandwidths optimized for 6- and 8- video card configurations (a user option).

Many such Users will opt for "surround video" systems, which enclose them within a circle of high resolution video monitors: the only way to operate this setup is to lower oneself into the center with a special crane, also issued by Nebulous and leased by the User at market rates (you may remember the obsolete concept of "supply and demand").

By this time, all storage controller companies will have been bankrupted by strict enforcement of these new policy restrictions, imposed by the new organized DHUA -- Das Homeland Uber Alles.

A foretaste of this New World Odor can be viewed in the upcoming film entitled "Iron Sky" (are you laughing yet?)

I'm not.


MRFS
 
SO why don't they do this on all those rebadged desktop and mobile graphics chips where marketing only adds a new number to the series but does not improve performance?????????????????????????????
 
I used to be a fan of Gigabyte until recently... not sure if I will ever purchase one of their boards again. I have a GA-X58A-UD3R rev2.0 that "supposedly" had SATA3 and USB3.0 when I purchased it over a year ago. I recently bought a Vertex3 SSD and a USB3.0 external enclosure... neither work as they should. I can only get SATA2 speeds out of the Marvel9128 controller on the board and Gigabyte has told me "that's acceptable" (their words) for the board, and they give me the run-around when it comes to the USB3.0 disconnecting/stopping after several MB are transferred on it with any device (many people experiencing this issue with the NEC/Renesas controller ). Total crap!

The fact that someone has finally called them out is great.
 
Isn't it a bit hypocritical of MSI? They're PCIe 3.0 mobos won't be PCIe 3 until Ivy Bridge comes out, but you'll see no mention of that in their advert video:

MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) - world's first PCI Express Gen 3 mainboard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL3xdE2Wb-U

ASRock are the only honest ones here, although it's in a small footnote:

"To run the PCI Express 3.0 slots in Gen 3 speed, please must install the Ivy Bridge CPU which supports PCI Express 3.0. If you install the Sandy Bridge CPU, the PCI Express 3.0 slots will run only at Gen2 speed."

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Fatal1ty%20Z68%20Professional%20Gen3

Here's a thread on this issue

Where's the PCI Ex. 3.0 promised would be here by now?
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/296572-30-where-promised
 
[citation][nom]JoseJones[/nom]Isn't it a bit hypocritical of MSI? They're PCIe 3.0 mobos won't be PCIe 3 until Ivy Bridge comes out, but you'll see no mention of that in their advert video: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) - world's first PCI Express Gen 3 mainboardhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL3xdE2Wb-U ASRock are the only honest ones here, although it's in a small footnote:"To run the PCI Express 3.0 slots in Gen 3 speed, please must install the Ivy Bridge CPU which supports PCI Express 3.0. If you install the Sandy Bridge CPU, the PCI Express 3.0 slots will run only at Gen2 speed."http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview. [...] nal%20Gen3Here's a thread on this issueWhere's the PCI Ex. 3.0 promised would be here by now? http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] e-promised[/citation]

OMG I own a GA-890GPA-UD3H v1.0 and had the exact same experience. USB3.0 disconnects, OCZ Agility3 disk drive unable to reach half of performance level on any benchmark tool.
 
I JUST BOUGHT A GIGABYTE BOARD FUUUUUUUUU. But seriously is this going to affect my gaming?
 
This is indeed quite funny, but I would certainly be embarassed as a marketing department (and as a company) to find that people were more interested in information I put out regarding a competitor than my own products.

When was the last time anything MSI said actually garnered this much attention?

I've owned an MSI graphics card, which was great, and an MSI motherboard (which was not so great, as it had a chronic incompatibility issue with the Radeon 9700 Pro which they did not fix).

I've always considered them an 'average' company, so perhaps they should focus more on their own products than Gigabyte's.

I'm quite tempted to get the Intel Extreme motherboard for my SB build and leave these asian companies to bitch at each other as much as they want.
 
HAHA!! Haven't laughed this much for a while! And that giant FAIL" stamp just goes all out, eh??!! MSI got that one real good. Use a Gigabyte myself, great boards, but hell that's good!!
 
Boards were not updated with bios that is now avail to prove MSI wrong. Tech support told me f5 on my GA-z68XP-UD4 unlocked the 3.0 pci bandwidth . I don't believe that the second biggest mobo maker in the world would do what msi is claiming.. Wouldn't there be expensive legal repercussions? I will believe it when the hardware comes out and i test it myself...If msi is correct there will be a massive class action law suit. I just sent GB Corporate relations this article...lets await there response.....
 
It's all BS. PCI-Express 3.0 = 2 x PCI-Express 2.0, right? And they're talking about PCI-Express 3.0 multi-GPU setups that are running x8/x8. Well, pardon me, but haven't we had PCI-Express 2.0 motherboards that run multi-GPU setups at x16/x16 for quite a long time? For those that haven't caught what I'm saying, PCI-Express 3.0 x8 = PCI-Express 2.0 x16 which is nothing new and therefore, not even worth making. Hell, running multi-GPU setups at PCI-Express 2.0 x8/x8 isn't even a bottleneck so who in their right mind gives a rat's ass to begin with?
 


I honestly wonder how you got the title "Motherboard Expert." You obviously don't read any OP and just ramble and make unfair comparisons.


 


so it is not just me who accidentally bumped an old thread
its like 2 years old :/
 
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