Question MSI RTX 4080 bad performance?

[Blubberykollis]

Hello!
As the title proclaims, I have suspicions regarding the performance of my newely acquired RTX 4080.

I upgraded from an RTX 2080 Ti, and from what I can say right away, the performance is already a lot better on the new card(In certain aspects!).
But, my suspicions arise from the likes of some benchmarks on youtubes with the near same specs as I.

Take Cyberpunk 2077 as instance. Running the benchmark on 1440p with DLSS put on Balanced, it should generate an average FPS in the 100~ range.
I get around 77 FPS.

My friend who upgraded from a 2080 to an RTX 4080, gets a steady 75 - 95 FPS in the game.
Meanwhile my performance is somewhat comparable to my 2080 Ti while walking around doing mundane things, hitting FPS around the 35 - 70 range.

So, what may be the culprit in this case? What could I or should I do?
I did a clean installation of the GPU drivers(Using GeForce Experience), which is the only thing I've done so far.

Specs:

OS: Windows 10 64-Bit
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800x - 3,8 Ghz
Motherboard: ROG STRIX X570-f Gaming
Crucial Ballistix - 16x2 Gb -DDR4 - 2666 Mhz - CL16
GPU: MSI Gaming Trio X RTX 4080
Storage: 2x M2 WD Black at around 7100 mb/s in both read/write. (1x 512 Gb, 1x 2Tb)

Thanks in advance!

 

[drivinfast247]

You do have slow RAM for that setup. Let's make sure your getting the most out of it. Is RAM installed in slots a2-b2 and XMP enabled in BIOS?

Is CPU properly cooled and hitting boost frequency?

Go to userbenchmark.com and run the test. Link the results here after.

 

[Blubberykollis]

You do have slow RAM for that setup. Let's make sure your getting the most out of it. Is RAM installed in slots a2-b2 and XMP enabled in BIOS?

Is CPU properly cooled and hitting boost frequency?

Go to userbenchmark.com and run the test. Link the results here after.

Thanks for the reply!
Lets see here.

My RAM seems to be installed into a1-b1. I think I enabled XMP, but I can have a check if my benchmark doesn't reveal anything else.

As for my CPU, the temperature seems to be fine while gaming. It hits about 65 degrees. But, now that you mention it, it doesn't seem like it's constantly reaching that 4.7 Ghz, altho occassionally. (according to Task manager, its load while playing games such as Warframe pushes it to around 25 - 40%)

Now, onto my benchmark:

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/57820751

Meanwhile the CPU is fine according to the benchmark, the RAM is as you say, rather slow. But, the most suspicious part is none other than the GPU itself.
It does seem like something is up with the GPU, no?

 

[drivinfast247]

Thanks for the reply!
Lets see here.

My RAM seems to be installed into a1-b1. I think I enabled XMP, but I can have a check if my benchmark doesn't reveal anything else.

As for my CPU, the temperature seems to be fine while gaming. It hits about 65 degrees. But, now that you mention it, it doesn't seem like it's constantly reaching that 4.7 Ghz, altho occassionally. (according to Task manager, its load while playing games such as Warframe pushes it to around 25 - 40%)

Now, onto my benchmark:

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/57820751

Meanwhile the CPU is fine according to the benchmark, the RAM is as you say, rather slow. But, the most suspicious part is none other than the GPU itself.
It does seem like something is up with the GPU, no?

Install RAM in slots a2-b2. Enable XMP/D.O.C.P in BIOS.

Once @ desktop, disable any overlay such as MSI Afterburner. Wait 5 minutes. Run benchmark again and link results.

 

[Blubberykollis]

Install RAM in slots a2-b2. Enable XMP/D.O.C.P in BIOS.

Once @ desktop, disable any overlay such as MSI Afterburner. Wait 5 minutes. Run benchmark again and link results.

Here is the new one: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/57823054

Also, after enabling DOCP, I gained about +10 FPS in average at the Cyberpunk benchmark.

Now, I do wonder.
I've had issues with drivers on my previous card(s), perhaps I should try to use DDU?

 

[mjbn1977]

I have the the same 4080 from MSI. I can confirm that the 4080 can do 104fps average win 1440p in Cyberpunk with raytracing on ultra/psycho with DLSS on "quality". But I do have a very fast CPU and DDR5 ram. I would be surprised if you get less fps on older CPUs with slower RAM. What clock speeds is the video card running in cyberpunk? My runs without manual overclock at 2820Mhz.

 

[Blubberykollis]

I have the the same 4080 from MSI. I can confirm that the 4080 can do 104fps average win 1440p in Cyberpunk with raytracing on ultra/psycho with DLSS on "quality". But I do have a very fast CPU and DDR5 ram. I would be surprised if you get less fps on older CPUs with slower RAM. What clock speeds is the video card running in cyberpunk? My runs without manual overclock at 2820Mhz.

Any software you can recommend to keep track of its frequency during gaming?

 

[mjbn1977]

Any software you can recommend to keep track of its frequency during gaming?

MSI Afterburner with Riva Tuner Statistic . It's basically what (almost) everyone uses. Just download the latest version of Afterburner either from MSI or Guru3d. Install and then in the settings under the On-Screen Display you choose a key for "toggle on-screen display". I am using "Page Down".

Then in the "monitoring tab" you choose which parameter you want to display. The ones I usually use are:
GPU1 Temperature, GPU1 Usage, GPU1 core clock, GPU1 power, CPU temperature, CPU usage, Framerate, CPU clock, CPU power.
But you can choose whatever you want.
You have to click on each you want (holding "ctrl") and then click on the checkbox below "Show in On-Screen Display".

you start afterburner, run a game and click your display toggle on/off button to show or hide the stats in game. There are many youtube videos that explain it if you need additional help.

When you open Riva Tuner Statistic you can also set how large the overlay is.

 

[drivinfast247]

Here is the new one: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/57823054

Also, after enabling DOCP, I gained about +10 FPS in average at the Cyberpunk benchmark.

Now, I do wonder.
I've had issues with drivers on my previous card(s), perhaps I should try to use DDU?

That's looks better. Curious as to why the GPU test failed. Do you have any OC software running?

 

[Blubberykollis]

MSI Afterburner with Riva Tuner Statistic . It's basically what (almost) everyone uses. Just download the latest version of Afterburner either from MSI or Guru3d. Install and then in the settings under the On-Screen Display you choose a key for "toggle on-screen display". I am using "Page Down".

Then in the "monitoring tab" you choose which parameter you want to display. The ones I usually use are:
GPU1 Temperature, GPU1 Usage, GPU1 core clock, GPU1 power, CPU temperature, CPU usage, Framerate, CPU clock, CPU power.
But you can choose whatever you want.
You have to click on each you want (holding "ctrl") and then click on the checkbox below "Show in On-Screen Display".

you start afterburner, run a game and click your display toggle on/off button to show or hide the stats in game. There are many youtube videos that explain it if you need additional help.

When you open Riva Tuner Statistic you can also set how large the overlay is.

It appears to be running at 2820 MHz here as well.

 

[Blubberykollis]

That's looks better. Curious as to why the GPU test failed. Do you have any OC software running?

I do not. Which is why I am starting to suspect the drivers to be the culprit here.
Should I use DDU perhaps? Considering I've had issues with drivers previously.

 

[falcon291]

Upgraded from GTX 1070 to RTX 3070, I didn't face any performance issues, but BSODs and freezes, only after DDU and reinstallation of Geforce Experience and drivers and updating GPU drivers from Armory Crate the issues were resolved.

 

[drivinfast247]

I do not. Which is why I am starting to suspect the drivers to be the culprit here.
Should I use DDU perhaps? Considering I've had issues with drivers previously.

Definitely give DDU a go.

 

[Blubberykollis]

Update:
I used DDU, but the issue still persists.
I average around 80-83 FPS in the benchmark in cyberpunk whereas it should be around 100.

 

[falcon291]

After the changes did you benchmark your computer again?

 

[mjbn1977]

Update:
I used DDU, but the issue still persists.
I average around 80-83 FPS in the benchmark in cyberpunk whereas it should be around 100.

Again, it should be around 100 (depending on the scene) with a very fast high end CPU with fast RAM. I am not certain that the GPU is the problem. But cyberpunk is a very CPU demanding game. Here are some of my own gaming benchmarks with my 4080 system (see details in signature). Maybe you can compare my results in one of the less CPU intensive titles.
All benchmarks with stock clock of my 4080 (see full specs off fully air cooled system in my signature), but power limit was increased to 115% in afterburner. GPU temps stayed consistently at mid 60sC during all benchmarks. In Game Benchmarks used when available.

No Raytracing, no DLSS:
Far Cry 6 1440p Ultra Setting HD Texture pack: 150 fps
AC:Valhalla 1440p Ultra Setting: 200 fps average
Watch Dogs: Legion 1440p Ultra Settings, HD texture pack, no raytracing, no dlss: 136 fps average
Cyberpunk 2077 1440p Ultra Settings, no raytracing, no dlss: 133 fps average
Shadow of the Tomb Raider 1440P Ultra Settings, no ray tracing, no dlss: 234 fps average
Kingdom Come Deliverance 1440p everything ultra: 170 fps average, around 90 to 100 fps in the town of Rattay (that area always tanked fps by almost 50%)

With Raytracing:
Far Cry 6 1440p Ultra Setting HD Texture pack and Raytracing: 118 fps Average
Metro Exodus 1440p Ultra Settings with Raytracing: 88 fps Average (113fps Average with DLSS Quality)
Cyberpunk 2077 1440p Ultra Setting with Raytracing (Ultra and Psycho): 61fps Average (103fps Average with DLSS Quality)
Shadow of the Tomb Raider 1440p Ultra Settings with Raytracing Ultra, no DLSS: 172 fps average
Watch Dogs Legion 1440p Ultra Settings, HD texture pack, with Raytracing: 87 fps Average (107fps with DLSS Quality)
Witcher 3 Next Gen Update 1440p Ultra with Raytracing: 140s fps Average with DLSS Quality and DLSS frame generation