MSI Z77MA-G45 even good for gaming?

gaming will be great on this combo


that board has a REALLY aggressive Turbo profile that will greatly outperform a stock chip.....if you're not yet confident in overclocking its a great way to squeeze extra performance out with no effort

and the 660ti is a REALLY REALLY good card...smooth gaming all day long...

its a good deal if you can deal with the ugly case :pt1cable:
 


It's not a bad deal for a prebuit, but compared to a proper homebuilt, it's a very bad deal.

The 660 Ti most certainly isn't so great. The card isn't very bad, but it has poor scaling with higher workloads and poor overclcokign thanks to its memory bandwidth and its price is too high to justify that. The 660 (non-Ti) performs rather similarly for 25-35% less cash and lower power consumption. The Radeon 7870 also trades blows with it for a similar price range to the 660 and the 7950 is the superior card to the 660 Ti despite a similar price. The 660 and the 670 are much better for what they are than the 660 Ti, especially cheaper 670s that can inch towards $340 to $360.
 
no.....he is dead wrong.....

a....it is a home build combo....

b.....the price is very good...just wish you could knock off the optical drive


ahhhhh i see.....pushing amd....


fine find a combo with the 7950....same thing......

avoid listening to ppl that try to push "their fav brand"
 


The 7950 is a superior card, as is the 670. The 7870 and the 660 are similarly performing cards that are much cheaper. I wasn't pushing AMD, I was explaining how the 660 Ti is overpriced compared to both AMD and Nvidia cards.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/k4AF
Better build, about the same price. Faster CPU for overclocking and faster graphics at stock and especially with overclocking.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/k4C9
Similarly performing and cheaper.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/k4Cq
Cheaper and better performing with overclocking, although not to such an extent as the first build.

I could do even better if I went for some Newegg deals and combos.
 

Technically, that is a "home-made computer" all the parts just come in some super saving deal. A $600 pc couldnt beat it in performance, but maybe on performance vs price ratio, but not really. The combo deal is roughly about right for the price. Here is a quick mock up of roughly the same pc for about the same price http://pcpartpicker.com/p/k4DP

Truth be told about motherboards is they all have about the same performance, what you are paying for is the quality and features.
 


I've already demonstrated that you can do better with that budget and even with less money. I'll concede to both of you that it is technically a home-built computer, but its parts were not optimally chosen. It's not bad, but it's not very good nor is it really close.



The point is the newer board. The i5-2500K is easily traded for an i5-3570K for another $20 anyway and even then, the i5-3550 is $35 less and can get very close in performance to the 3570K and the 2500K.

Furthermore, in terms of performance, the i5-2500K is generally superior to the i5-3xxx CPUs, even if only slightly when compared to the 3570K and at the cost of a little extra power consumption.
 
I would get the deal. Dont think too much into it, like we are. Honestly, it is a solid build. The only improvement is getting a 7950 for about the same price as the 660Ti and getting a few more fps out of it. The big thing the 7950 helps for is huge resolutions, like 27in monitors and 2+ monitors.
 
Ok my maximum resolution is 1280x1024. which lowest priced gpu can i get to play like BF3 or MOH WF at like 50-60 fps at maxiumum settings? not to mention i only have dvi and vga ports
 
A Radeon 7770 would be plenty for you. A 7950 would be good in that it could run with more MSAA even with maxed out texture quality to offset the jaggies that are inherent with such a low resolution and it would be much better if you ever upgrade to a 1080p display, but it is more than enough for you if you don't mind playing with a lower picture quality.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-112010220g

This is the fastest Radeon 7770. It beats the 650 Ti (not greatly so, but still) in high detail and MSAA performance despite being cheaper. It only costs $131.97 after MIR.
 
you allways troll waaaaaaay off topic

the question was is this deal acceptable....and the answer is a big fat YES.....it's all good parts that will service you for years to come...and at a savings of 80$ over individual purchases....

the question was NOT which will get me 3 more fps in this situation according to someone who reads too many articles and owns nothing.....

this devil is trying to trick you out of your soul examplehi
 
Anyone whom is too lazy to tell someone that it's not ideal is wrong. I am not getting off topic at all. OP wants to know what is best and I answered that OP's current choice is not best and gave superior recommendations.

Whether or not something is acceptable is extremely subjective, so the answer is not yes. Beyond that, whether or not something is acceptable is far less important than whether or not it is ideal. That deal was not ideal, plain and simple.
 
That I did. Telling OP that it's not a bad deal, but there are better alternatives is the best answer to OP's question, especially when some of those better alternatives are mentioned. Simply telling OP that OP should buy a mediocre deal rather than a superior alternative is telling OP that OP should waste his/her money and that should be unacceptable on a forum where someone comes for optimal help. If I asked if paying $15,000 for car A is a good deal when a better car, car B, is available for $13,000 and an even better car, car C, is available for $15,000 and I'm advised that I should get car A instead of this car B, whoever is giving the advice has clearly not given the best advice.
 
sorry blaze......

660ti aint as bad as he makes it out to be.....

especially at that price..... and recommending the drop to a gk 106??? from a gk 104 even @ the lesser bandwidth...which at his res means NOTHING.....is not in the ops best intrest...its in lucys.....


and there is a BIG dif... between $75 and $2000

and btw....car A had a bigger engine. better gas milage and was 2years newer....buy car a